Formula of the Firsts: Anastasiya Ivanovskaya

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Hi, I'm Alexey Popov, and this is the formula for the first First and Red for NBT. We continue to talk about Formula 1, about the backstage of Formula 1, about those who work in Formula 1 of completely different professions. And today Anastasia Ivanovskaya is our guest. Nastya is a marshal. Yes, welcome. Thank you, Nastya. What is it like to be a marshal? I just want to say from the perspective of an ordinary person. Marshal of the Soviet Union, there [laughter] Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov. Yes, yes, yes. Well, in fact, marshal is more of an international title, used in international competitions. In Russian competitions, we are more likely called motorsport judges. Yeah. But nevertheless, we are quite heavily involved in this entire organization, we are present at track. Our main tasks are, of course, safety monitoring and compliance with the rules. I just wanted to clarify about the title . I understand that you decided to jump off the topic so quickly, yes, but no, I wo n't let you do that. Why? I'll explain. Since I entered the world of Formula 1 through a French-speaking environment , I called your profession "commissaires" for a long time. Oh, by the way, because the French and Italians call them track commissaires. Yes, track commissaires. And people asked me, why were there commissaires there during the revolution, there with the Nagant in Suzhurka? That's why I said that a marshal is also, strictly speaking, not entirely clear. That is, from this point of view, a judge is even closest. I know you and Pasha, for example, yes. Here are two of our marshals, commissaires-judges, who have traveled all over the world. What do you call yourselves? Marshals, right? Marshals, yes. Basically, yes. That is, this title is familiar, right? Yes. Mm-hmm. There are different kinds, right? There really are. So, well, a judge, let's say, when I say: "Today we have Derek Warwick judging from the pilots, and Achimlot from Germany, and so on." This is a judge who, in our minds, sits and issues fines. Yes. Why are you standing at the start line with a pilot sign ? "Red flag," if anything, or what? Really? Why all the judges? Yeah, well, we're all judges because we have a license for this, for motorsport judging, so we really are motorsport judges. How, excuse me, do they get a license? It's like, well, how do pilots get it, of course, yes, they score points, yes, you have to be a certain way in the championship, and he scores so many points, then so many. And so, if he exceeds 40, he has a super license, he can compete in Formula 1. Oh, and how does it work for you? Where does it start? With Russian karting, or how does the pyramid look, how the path to Formula 1 goes. Oh, well, actually, here it's probably worth talking a little further about the fact that in Russia there is the Russian Automobile Federation, which is responsible for motorsport, including the licensing of judges. And, accordingly, it is represented in many regions, regional branches. And to obtain a license, you can first contact your regional representative office of the Russian Automobile Federation. Accordingly, you'll probably need to learn, well, study, attend some basic course, uh, in the motorsport discipline you want to judge. And then, accordingly, after that, you get a license, and you need to gain your first experience at regional, local competitions. Okay, fine. But you're all volunteers up to a certain point, am I right? Well, one doesn't preclude the other, yes. Yes. There's simply, uh, um, probably a difference between what it looks like in international, yes, racing and, accordingly, in Russian judging. That is, Russian, well, Russian judging is, uh, after all, really such a, uh, category scale. That is, you first become a third- category judge, then a second-category judge, then a junior research fellow, yes, a research fellow, yes, yes, yes. And over time, you move up this ladder, holding various sports judging positions at Russian auto racing venues. When we talk about Regarding international competitions, the term "marshal" is probably more commonly used there. But in any case, as a rule, all the organizers of sports races always ask, of course, if you have a license, whether you can judge at all or whether you came to them. Well, we essentially come to them to judge from abroad. So. And this confirms our judging capabilities. They all, this license, it's uniform. So, let's say, an international license, yes. They are the same in all countries, this international license. Oh, and you can come and rent a car in any country in the world. So, I have an international license, and it's the same everywhere. And in your country, then, the Russian Association of Racing Drivers issues you your licenses, and it says "judge of some international category" or something like that, or simply " No, no, there it's just a license, which, in fact, is the category we occupy here in Russia." That is, we judge races abroad and races here in Russia with the same license. But in other countries there is no category. And I can't answer about categories. So. But They do have specializations. I mean, I've seen licenses, like separate ones for the pit lane, for example. These kinds of things can really exist in different countries, but unfortunately, I probably can't go into detail about the different licenses that exist in different countries. But, as a rule—and this story is the same for all countries—the judges, those who take part in the organizational process at Formula 1, of course, have, uh, a document, a license, that they can do this, that they do have some kind of specialization. I saw shoulder straps in Monaco, and people on their overalls, yes, the usual orange ones, they have shoulder straps of completely different systems on top. They don't have stars, but rather different chevrons on the neck, but they really do have—that is, there's a post chief, and a commander's chief, yes, there's a chief of everything there, and they have this really small one, Monaco, which is only 2 km away. But this system there is a very complex pyramid. Yeah. And on average, what does it look like? Is it typical for the average racetrack? Are they all different? No, it really varies . Different countries have different conditions for marshals. That is, some provide something, that is, for example, they can provide a hotel where the marshals stay. And some don't provide anything, some give a piece of grass where you can pitch a tent or bring a camper, for example. So it depends on the track, the conditions, and the marshals come to judge. So there you have it. Well, in fact, the main bonus of all this volunteering is that you are simply right in the epicenter of these events and, probably, the closest thing to all the events that happen at the race and on the track. So that's our privilege. Well, we'll go over everything in detail now , but we have a quick summary in our podcast. And I deliberately didn't warn you in advance so that there wouldn't be a chance to think through these things. Answers. They have to be honest, so to speak, come straight from the heart. The first person who gave you a chance in Formula 1, I'd say, was probably Tigran Seferian. He's the man who organizes drag racing in Russia. I'll go into that a little later . Why? So, it all started with drag racing before Kols. Okay. Your first mistake in the pits, do you remember it? A mistake. Now Nastya will be our first guest who will say that there were no mistakes. And we, of course, well, this probably, probably can't happen. Well, actually, we had situations when you're observing a pit stop, you have to write down a certain number of things. Yeah. So , for example, which car left, which car arrived, what tires it left on, and so on. You have to write it all down quickly. Well, 500 km lasts, how long? About 2 seconds, not much time. And so, at first, there were a lot of mistakes with the fact that You don't have time to remember either the driver's number or what tires they're on. But there's a life hack: if he left on certain tires , he'll most likely return on them again next time, if he gets a second 100. So then, at the end, when it's handed in, you can fill it out. You can, you can fill it out more. Yes. Okay. We'll get back to the blitz now. I just haven't forgotten yet, so I'll clarify these stories then. So, it's all on paper, right? It's not something you record on some electronic device . Well, it varies, yes, if it's required, yes, it's not required at all tracks, but there are tracks that structure the pitlane marshals' work in such a way that we have to keep these observation logs, what are they called in Russian? And so, when we keep this, yes, it was a tablet, paper, a pencil, a pen, then who hands it over? to the pit lane supervisor. So, he gathers everyone together after each session? Yeah. Yeah. And have there ever been any cases where someone was called onto the carpet and told, "It's filled out poorly, or it shouldn't be done that way" or? Well, the pit lane supervisor, yeah, he can say, he can even give an example, say, "Look, here it's in detail, and what you're writing there is, like, not enough, you need to provide more detail." Yeah, we've had cases like that, but not all, not at all, not at all circuits, is that even practiced. Well, it's a friendly community, right? Friendly. So, everyone helps each other , again. Yeah, yeah, in many ways it's rivalry, this competitiveness. And what are they competing for? For Leclerc's position, well, that's unlikely. [laughs] Well, here we are, yeah, here we'll come. But now m So, the first day on the track. What surprised me the most? The smell. And this unusual smell High-octane gasoline, probably, yes. But that was back at the Drag Race, neofor. That was at Formula 1, yes, at Formula 1. This, uh, slightly sweet, but also a little technical, yes. This smell, it, of course, immediately sank somewhere deep in my heart. And when was that first first day of nase? Oh, well, for me, the first was Sochi 2000, so my fourteenth year, of course, like many Russian marshals. Yeah. And recently, since I follow you on social media, I saw that there was a little micro-anniversary, the thirtieth race. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, they're all counted, they're all somewhere. What does it look like? Is there some kind of table, is there some kind of notebook at home, is there a map of the world with flags or something? No, actually, we have this thing called a marshal's resume. So, and we enter all the races, where we've been and worked, so that later, when we apply for some rounds, for those who don't know us, they understand what experience we have. Well, we'll get back to this career, to the various tracks and so on. For now, I'll just continue with our blitz questions. The first thing you would change in Formula 1, honestly, honestly. uh, overalls for female marshals. There. That is. I mean, I wish I were a girl. Yes. Yes , it's not even about that, it's just about banal convenience. That's what, of course, isn't always convenient when there is such a full set. Separate ones would be much more convenient. Are they the same everywhere? No, no. Moreover, in the pitlane, but again, going back to the pitlane, is it possible that there are races where marshals aren't used ? And the pitlane overalls. How is it not lousy? Well, it's just that it turns out, well, yes, in special T-shirts. And what kind of tracks? Oh, well, for example, in Baku, in Australia, as far as I remember, and recently in Hungary. Yeah. In Hungary. They also use lapels and, accordingly, dark trousers. Yes. That's specifically for pit lanes. So, maybe there's just some kind of vest, right? Everything there, uh, there's always a tabor on top, yes, that's basically our pass, yeah, that's what it's like for pit lanes, yeah, yeah, a tabor. And, accordingly, that's why it conceals so much, but in general, yeah, even bare arms can be there, that is, there's nothing protective. And in other countries, there's full kit, just like if you were standing guard with the firefighters somewhere, yeah, it varies. Sometimes, there are even countries where helmets are mandatory. Yeah. That's it. And you have to wear it the whole way. Well, when you're directly in the pit lane, when there's activity, yeah. Well, that is, for two hours there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, even more. So convenient, or what? Well, yes. If you've already gotten used to a certain moment, then, of course, with a closed visor or not? And there, yes, there we were in Qatar. Yes, yes, but they have a funny, yes, story there. They have exactly Yes, no one fell. No. Ah, well, not in the frame, but in general it was cold in the frame. [laughter] There. And there it was cold. It was cold there. Well, that year It's not the year, then, where people fainted after the go. No, it's not the year where there were these endless pistols, yes, in my opinion. No, no, we were last year and it was quite cool there. That is, I even had photographs there when people were walking with fur coats in their hands, because it was really very cold. There. Yes, so, in general, the helmet didn't stop us here . An interesting experience. Good. Well, in general, of course, there are marshals. Well, it happens, of course, if it's very It's hot, sometimes his carrot falls. That's why there's such a first rule: take care of yourself first. Yeah. Well, it's like on a plane when the oil spills. You and Pasha probably take care of each other first, right? And everyone else, right? No, take care of yourself first. Whatever. Okay. Good. And the first race you watched as a fan, that is, even before you worked, just... And I watched the races back in my youth, when Schumacher and Hake competed. I remember that everything was somewhere on the edge there. It's a rivalry. Yeah. Exactly. Then somehow we watched the races separately, where Alonson had already started winning and taking his championships. M. And now we've been watching, probably for years, I don't know, well, probably since 2014. So, plus or minus there all the time. Yeah. The first rule that you learned in the team, we just had a funny conversation about myself first, but that's in an extreme situation, yes, that's it, and here's how things work normally. So you have your team, let's say you were assembled there at 6:00 in the morning, when everyone was still asleep, and you were already brought to the track, set up, and you're standing there thinking, why, if the first race is at 9:00, like Formula 3 or something, right? Ah, well, actually, the first rule that just comes to mind, maybe it wasn't the first, yes, but I remember very well that when at the start of the race we make sure that the drivers don't get up at the start, but you need to watch the driver very closely. That's it. And when I had this first starting procedure in Formula 1... Yeah. And the driver I was watching at the start was Alonsa. It was Alonsa back then at F1, of course. Yeah. Yes. And I stared at him so much, it seems to me that I didn't even look at anything else. It seems to me that if If someone had seen my gaze at that moment, they would have decided that I was just there, I don’t know, probably, yes, because I was looking at him just like, God forbid, something happens to him there . That’s it. But everything ended well, he went to the race and it was great. [laughter] And are you watching so that if he suddenly raised his hand that he stalled, you immediately warn everyone else with a flag that a person stalled? Yes, am I right in understanding? Yes. But here we should probably dwell a little on the starting procedure. I can explain it in more detail, right? Accordingly, we will now have an example specifically from Formula 1. Yeah. But in Formula 1, first, before the start, we go out onto the starting grid with flags and stand there exactly until the moment they go on the warm-up lap. Yeah. That is, we have certain time cutoffs there, 10 minutes, 5 minutes, 3 minutes. Traffic lights, all of that too It works. And we see it because they show us how to raise the sign. Do you have one in your ears somewhere? Yes, we hear the sound, yes, because we are the traffic light and we see the traffic light, either the main one or the backup one. So we know there's a certain number, five red lights—that's 10, respectively. And then it goes down. And, accordingly, directly, and when they go on the warm-up lap, there are 15 seconds left, we are essentially left with them, well, one-on- one practically, because the whole team, it goes back, clearing space for them to start. That's it. And at that moment, we stand with the flags. And if someone gets stuck, can't get through, start, then we give a yellow flag. And, accordingly, if all is well, everyone leaves, we return to the pitlane side, or to the pit wall, the signal platform, well, or sometimes it's on the other side. A very rare example, um, where is the grandstand. I don't know about Monaco, but definitely at Spar . But usually we return to the pit side, and on that side we have panels, ah, digital flags. Yeah. And when we arrive, they're positioned at about 45°, showing the driver where his position is when he returns from the warm-up lap to the grill. And it often happens that they miss, make mistakes. That happens, but not very often. Although I had one time, yes, Piastri, Piastri somehow arrived in the wrong place, but he quickly moved, basically, there was nothing there, no, nothing at all. That is, he somehow quickly realized that something was wrong. But our task is, when the driver is already approaching, when we understand that he already sees where he needs to go, to close this panel. This is done with a button. Accordingly, we press the green button, and it moves to 90°. And they are the same everywhere at all the circuits. That is, Formula 1 itself carries them with it, and installed, yes. So, when they turn 90°, it's done so that this panel can give a signal. We only have one signal: the yellow flag. Yeah. So, if a driver at the start waved his hand, really, or, well, we understand that something drastic is happening to him there, he's on fire, smoking, or the start has already begun and he didn't start, we are obliged to press the yellow button as quickly as possible to warn the following drivers that something like this has happened at this point . This happened more in the junior series. And my driver, he very clearly showed that he was not going to go now. That's it. And I, of course, pressed the button. Well, yes, and in fact, there are junior series, they periodically stall at the start of Formula 2, Formula 3. By the way, that's the question. So it turns out that this is not some super- privileged position you have, that you're just entering Formula 1, kings like that, yeah, and you go out. So [laughter] there's a weekend - that's really, like I said, from 6:00 in the morning until evening. They set you up first and gather you at the track last, when everyone's already gone home, yeah, sitting there, having dinner, and you're still standing there just in case, so that nothing happens. I usually just observed this with my own eyes, I never understood why they do this. Ah, well, that is, three long days really from morning until evening. And all the series, they all... Well, of course, what should we change? There 20, here 30, here. That is, that is, three long days from early morning until late evening. And the most they sometimes pay you for is a hotel. Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. That's ho. No, no, now we, among motorsport fans, just want to understand, and this is common, yeah, that is, there are no certain positions that would be distinguished. Well, if we're talking about marshals, then this is definitely about... Well, when with you There are firefighters or medics, they are separate. They have their own management there. They are ordinary full-time people. There are marshals there, indeed, it’s like we are medics, but they are not marshals, as a rule. It’s still a medical mess. I don’t know. Well, most likely, yes. Well, there are combined posts where both track and flag marshals are stationed. There are more of them. So. Well, mm, to be honest, this is not my specialty, so I’m probably super, I’ve only ever worked in the pitlane. And how did this happen? Well, how is that possible ? What kind of elite is this? How did this happen? This, well, because they are always there with the pilots, they all also want to see the pilots, and they are standing somewhere far away on the track. Well, they will also see the pilots when the pilots fly out [laughter] I see, I see, I see. I mean, by the way, when they fly out, it turns out you, not you, not Pasha, you there You don't use mops to sweep up the gravel, do you? No, well, we sweep it up when it happens. Um, in the pitlane. Well, I mean, you're given a mop there too, of course. Do you have any training sessions on the mop? Why not? Yeah, they bring us in at 6:00 in the morning, and sometimes there's a general briefing, that is, all the marshals gather in one place and then the race director, there's the chief marshal, they speak again, there they go over the main points, ah, for the posts and, accordingly, less attention is paid to the pitlane there. As a rule, but they cover the main points, why watch out, uh, in which turns, where to pay more attention, uh, to different situations. And the training, the training. Um, well, I know that sometimes at the posts, and when you, accordingly, already arrive, if you're a track marshal, then there are training sessions when they, um, time how long it takes to run to different sections of the track. That's the kind of training they have. After the general briefing, we usually have our own short briefing with the pit lane chief, who also tells us the basics of the starting procedure if there are starts that day. On Friday, they usually tell us general safety stories. Like, what we shouldn't do, what, in general, why monitor, why watch. But where does he get this from? knows everything? Is this some kind of person who works for you? No, this is, as a rule, also a local marshal, who will already be moving up in the hierarchy. Yes, he's just been working there for many years and Yes, yes. He's already... Yes, he's already achieved such a high level of organization. The organizer, yes. Here. And, accordingly, well, he tells us some basic things, reminds us once again. Here. Yes, I think we talked about this. Fine. Fine. What about food? Food. Food. Here's a person from 6:00 in the morning until what time ? Until 8:00 pm, until 9:00. Well, roughly, yes, in different ways. Differently. Well, it depends on the race, yes. Well, it’s clear that on tracks where there are evening races, all this sometimes drags on. And, well, there is an opportunity to go somewhere, but there is no opportunity there, that is, you are there as if there is no opportunity to go out. Things can be different there too. Sometimes the organizer provides food. That is, in some races, well, for example, in Bakhryn, they feed you, that is, they bring food, and, accordingly, you have the opportunity to eat during some breaks. There are tracks where we provide this braviance ourselves. Here. Well, we already have a diagram. We have a plan, we already have certain products. We know that we are buying this, there are fruits, snacks, of course, sandwiches. Here. And, accordingly, we bring a special thermal bag to the track, in general. Oh, and we eat during breaks. Sometimes the breaks are, uh, long, when it's customary in the pit lane , uh, that not all marshals work all sessions. That is, it happens that we take turns. And sometimes, when we work all sessions, breaks only occur during various audience activities and walks along the beatlane. And then we do this... Are you also responsible for the audience at this moment or not? Or is there some kind of security there ? No, there are mostly security guards there, yes, there are mostly security guards. But that means you're no longer responsible for the stupidity of viewers who might try to get into something ? Yes. Yes, I don't answer now. Perhaps, at the first races in Russia, we were there to watch, of course, we helped, but, uh, now basically, well, and abroad this is mainly provided by a separate security service, but we still have the fact that when spectators are walking around, they practice the team's pit stops. And, well, we were also interested, so we had a quick lunch and also went for a walk to look at the spectators, to look at the teams. Here. The teams come to you, they see your form, so to speak, yes, and they are more friendly. That is, it’s no longer like some kind of spectators who are there, yes, but rather like their own people. Well, in general, yes. Well, they let you closer to the car sometimes, there was a story recently, when there was a long rain, when I was practically handing out sandwiches and something to the teams there . Yes. Yes, yes, yes. By the way, this story has a small continuation. We were already in Hungary, that is, in a week there was a stage in Hungary, and I think after qualifying we approached Ayar Kamatsa and thanked him for taking such good care of us, gave him a little matryoshka doll, and he was really very happy. He said directly: "Wow, that's true for me. We were very pleased, and apparently he was too. We always carry a supply of nesting dolls with us so that in some cases we could... That's interesting. Well, I know that Kmansu treats us normally, considering that he worked with Petrov as a race engineer, and he was Has's general engineer with Nikita Mazepin. So, there are no problems here. But in general, let's say, it happens that you give someone a nesting doll, they're there, well, but I don't want to talk to Russians. M. Yes. No, no, I guess that never happens. It's not like that directly on some human level. Good. Nice. And how much easier? Well, it's hardly easier. How much harder has it become to drive in the race? After all, how does it usually happen? You submit an application and the organizers choose you from the outside, am I right? Yes. Yes, yes, that's right. That is, you send out... Aha. No I know, how can we not go to all the stages, right? And how is that? Well, where do we have contacts, where are we planning to go? Well, how much do you send out on average per year? Um, well , probably about six pieces for sure. Oh, well, something like that, yeah. Well, we consider about four to be a good year . That's pretty normal. The maximum we had was six in 2019. Uh-huh. That's it . And the worst was two. And is this limited primarily by your personal budget, right? How much can you afford to go? Yes, in fact, we go everywhere. Well, otherwise you're on 24, you're not. But imagine tomorrow Nastya wins the lottery, yeah, 100 billion. She does n't have to worry about anything else in life. What does she do? Does she send out to 24 or does she just go and buy them half? I won't send it out to us everywhere, where I can find a contact and where I am, accordingly, well, and where I know that there is There's at least some minimal chance. That's why we always send out emails practically everywhere, right? I mean, not 24, well, probably, yes, I said about six, but it could be more. That's why, yes, they don't always choose us. Sometimes, by the time we send out emails, we're already fully staffed, although we usually try for about, well, seven months in advance . Is there a specific channel, or do you just take the racetrack's email and sometimes you just hit grandpa's village. That is, there's no single database at all , like you just come and you have, unfortunately, a general chat there, I don't know. No, no. It's always a small challenge, yes, so that's a challenge. Good. But does it happen that somewhere, you feel so at home that you always go to the same track year after year? They're always waiting at Spas, and we know. There, specifically, it's some kind of personal relationship with a particular person or That's basically it. That's really it, I think. Somehow, we really did get along with them. The first time, when we went, we didn't even know if they were waiting for us there. So, as usual, we sent them a message saying that we were such and such, we had this kind of resume, we had worked at so many races, and please take us. They answered us: "Yes, come" and that was it. We tried asking questions, they practically all went unanswered, but we went anyway, because, I don't know, we were such a risk-taker. So, uh, we went, found someone who basically told us, not from the team where we would be working, but just from outside the team , that basically, yes, you've most likely been approved, come. Well, well, we went and figured it out on the spot. Right before the weekend, almost on Thursday, they sent us a point there. Yeah. It's just, well, basically, a clearing on the map in the forest, in the Order's forest. Yeah, an abandoned hotel, actually, yeah. Well, was there a supply of beer there, huh? [laughs] No. Well, that was already, that was basically the weekend. So, like, come to this spot on Friday at 6:30. And that means the racing weekend is already starting? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they just sent us this address, these are the coordinates, come there. We were like, "Well, that's probably a good order." It's good that we went." Well, yeah. [laughter] So we get there and we really see that there, ah, the team, that the pit lane manager, they hand out these tabards and track passes. That's it. And that's how we got into this team. That's it. And then that's it , we practically became best friends there , because once we met in person, that's it. And so, how many times have you been in out of these thirty? How many is that? Wow. I think more, probably. Yeah. Cool. We need to count. Well, you see, I understand. But I understand. And how many is another question, out of these thirty, how many were at different circuits? How many different circuits did you visit? Okay, I'll answer it this way now. So, before Qatar, I got my nails done, because I had 10 years in motorsport, and I got my nails done 10 times. There were 10 Formula One circuits there. So, that was 10 plus Qatar itself. 11. 11 different automakers. Yes. Well, we're talking about Formula 1, right? Yes, yes. Yes, right now, yes. And we remember them all, yes. Who has the best spa or Well, looking at I'm not taking into account now, right now I'm not taking into account, as usual, fans argue about where the overtaking track is, not the overtaking track. Now I'm taking into account what exactly you and Pasha are doing. So, you arrived, how do they treat you, and how do you find work, what information, I'm sorry, what kind of toilet is there, yes, which is important, if it's from 6:00 in the morning to 9:00 in the evening, yes, it's the blue trailer where you have to stomp 2 km in the mud, or are they allowed to let you in at the pits themselves, there in a beautiful, well-kept, fragrant Abu Dhaba there. That's also important. Well, probably, from the point of view of real comfort, if you look directly, then probably, yes, probably, it is Abu Dhabi, they provide a hotel, well, and generally take good care of the marshals. But my soul, my soul is still in the spa, because it’s, well, it’s always such an unusual race, and completely different things happen there, that what can you remember now, for example, about which you can decently talk? Twenty-first year. Yeah. It’s a race that wasn’t. Let’s call it wasn’t, yes. But for us in the pitlane, naturally, it was fun, essentially, because we were there, well, for a while we were still, uh, standing there, then we started going there, launching boats, like, well, already, yes, already just doing something. And did you understand that there wouldn’t be at all, as far as you, like, I asked about the ears, somehow you didn’t answer me. Do you have some kind of communication, radios, something? Oh, not on all tracks. Okay. Yes. But in the spa, for example, no. Well, that is, only the main one has Yes. Yes. Of course, he does, he comes by from time to time and says something. Of course, of course. So, we can always find someone a little more senior, right? Yes. We can always catch someone a little more senior, right, because there's a pit lane leader, there are slightly more senior people there who are responsible for certain sections of the pit lane. So, basically, it's clear who on the team, uh, well, who you can contact if something happens. That's it. Oh, yeah, that's why in Abu Dhabi we have radios. It's much easier there, of course, over the radio. As for whether we knew, whether there would be a restart or not, uh, it seems to me that there was this whole time, there was this feeling that now, now, now, now, it will definitely happen . Seriously? Now, it's as if, especially the first moments, when we were going out, uh, when we were going out on the grid, then we, accordingly, left it, then, I think, we went out again, there This story happened several times . That's it. Well, and when it was already, accordingly, in the pitlane, there, of course, the clothes were melting with every drop, and there were some other stories, there were some stories, when we knew, well, in Russia it was also raining then, when Nori, when he slipped, yes, and there was also such an unpleasant rain, and that is, if in the spa it was just wet in the air, I do n't know how to explain it, if there was this star hanging, yes, that is, not that it was pouring in Russia. And I remember that someone from the team there, a friend of ours, came up to us and said, like, look, like in 20 minutes it's going to be really raining. We were like, "Well, how prepared are you always for any event?" That is, here's the standard bag that you take to the track, we realized that it mostly contains sandwiches, yes, there's a thermos, right? Are there always rubber boots there, I don't I know, just in case there's a full raincoat, that sunscreen is also the opposite, right? That is, for everything every day, of course. Yes. Yes. Well, Nastya is prepared, not like for school, yes, she'll bring a change of clothes with her. Everything is there, right? Not a change of clothes, by the way, no. That's bad, because... But if the pitlane was flooded with so much water here. And I've never seen anything like that. There are storm drains there. I don't know. I've never had it flooded anywhere. Yes , it happens sometimes. Like, right there, right in the pitlane. No, to be honest, I have n't seen water standing there. No, well, some puddles, yes, standing there, I think. No, actually, it was also funny in that twenty-first year, when we, actually, were waiting in the pitlane. My pilot was Kimi Raikan, and he actually started from the pitlane. And so , accordingly, we were with him the whole time. He was sitting there in the pit, I was near She was already standing there, pouring all this out. That's it. - um, basically they were exchanging glances, and then it turned out he tested positive for Covid. I'm thinking, well, what's going on? Yeah. Right. But I was fine. And right now, I mean, you worked during the Covid years too, right? On some of them? Yes. Yes. We had one in Russia, so the race was in 2020. Well, it was in ours in 2020, and in 2011, right? Yes . In 2020. And there was a race in Abu Dhaba in 2020. Yeah. Right . And there was a very complicated system there. We took a lot of tests before flying there. And the pitlane marshals, they were in this separate bubble, that's what it was called, yes, who were together with the riders and with everyone else, that is, the people who were allowed to be in the pitlane. Right. And we took a lot of tests, literally almost every two days here in Russia, they were sent, They were counting down, then we flew there, and there, accordingly, we sat in quarantine for about four days, probably, until they let us out. That is, they slipped food under the door, all that stuff, yeah, and we sat in a hotel, couldn't go out, that is, only in our room. That's it. Then you take another control test, and, accordingly, they let you out into the world. It's not even clear how people still managed to get sick under such circumstances. Yes. But the most interesting thing is that the local marshals, those who mostly live in Dubai, Yeah. And they sat for two weeks, they sat in quarantine for two weeks before they could, accordingly, and they are all volunteers too. They are all volunteers. Well, that is, they were somehow compensated there, so for many it was more profitable to even sit in quarantine somewhere. Well, not everyone, of course, but some, yes, there are there. That's it. And they sat for two weeks without leaving. Well, that was the only thing they had The difference was, they had a balcony. That's it. But for us, the most interesting thing is that this time we stayed in hotels located right on Yasmarin. So, we were right in the epicenter, that is, they stayed with us in the same team hotel, in neighboring team hotels. It was actually a small circle, yes, and accordingly, everyone was there, restaurants, everything. And at some point, we just found ourselves in the epicenter of all these events. And it was really cool, unusual in general. And usually, you said a tent, right? Have you ever used a tent, or is that extreme? We don't, we don't. Well, I mean, some marshals, yes, they quite happily take a tent with them and travel with a tent. We, as a rule, if we understand that there is no accommodation, well, at least within an hour's drive, well, because it's too early to get up there, then we rent a motorhome. Yeah. That's it. And, accordingly, it covers all the basic needs. We So we went, respectively, to Silverstone, ah, the main one. We were at Liman like that. Yeah. M. And we went to SPA once, also to the Marshall campsite, also in a campervan, it was quite fun. Somehow you don't freeze at night there during the year . No, no, we had a different problem there. The thing is, it was all back in '21. Yeah. And there, the field we were parked on was really badly washed away . And a small car. Well, we took another car together, we immediately parked outside the boundaries. For some reason, this campervan got stuck, and we, well, it was already a terrible mess there. That's it. But after a while, we realized that in the distance, approaching us, there were tractors. And these tractors, they already knew what to do. They hooked everything up and literally, well, all the campers, little by little, pulled out of that field. And it was simple, that is, SPA really is the epicenter of adventures, as I understand it. Yeah, yeah. So, well , there have been some sad moments in recent years, when the guys were giddy. That's what I was just about to say, you work, well , okay, not on the track, yeah, with Pasha, only in the pitlane. The fact that you don't have to clear away car debris if something happens, but you still see this driver. You know that he'll stand right there next to you, in his starting position, and then he goes out for a warm-up lap. There's no feeling, damn, but God forbid something happens to him now. Well, I just remember how it was when the Uber crashed. It was such a depressing feeling. In fact, we'd just, uh, essentially sent them to the start. And so we're standing in the spa, uh, these controls that we press, they're on the other side, not on the pitlane side, but on the grandstand side. So, we wait a few more laps before red, if, God forbid, a red flag occurs there, because the procedures will have to be restarted. There. And so he leaves for the start, we hear a sigh from the stands, and I hear from the post, well, this shout: "Rouge!" "Red flag." Well, the chief of the post commands the red flag. I think I'll remember that shout for the rest of my life , because such an oppressive feeling immediately hung in the atmosphere, you immediately understand that something really, really bad has happened. That is, we immediately understood that something serious was happening on the track. Well, in general, yes, it was difficult, as if not to understand. That's why I remember that day well. I remember how the next day, well, the next morning, uh, the Zhiguli race started, yes. There. And I remember the general feeling with which we went through all of this. It was so difficult. And indeed, one of my marshal friends was just standing in front of an Uber. It was his driver. And he, of course, I was very worried. He says: "How can this be? I actually launched him into the race." That's it. Yes, so, of course, there are unnecessary worries . We know that people take risks. How emotionally attached is this ? Is this your driver or not? Well, in fact, it's more of a competitive moment, right? That is, it's understandable that when we're talking about a tragic, yes, story, there he is our driver, yes, we lost him. Yeah. Although, yes, there is some kind of inner sadness for this and maybe even to some extent there is responsibility. That's it. And when we talk about just some cases, well, sometimes, yes, of course, we then follow how they drive in the race, because Ah, yes. Because, well, sometimes in Belgium, for example, I have a story when I, accordingly, just launched the race, we stand for a few more laps, wait, then we start to return, and then, accordingly, we pass along this grandstand the main one, and we go down, the tunnel, and, accordingly, only then we come out to the pit lane, and this, accordingly, takes several laps while we do all this. So. Sometimes we come to the pit lane, and the car has already retired. You think: "Well, my God, yeah, well, my God." You think, well, what's the big deal? Am I right in understanding that, accordingly, as a person who is responsible for safety and has seen all this with my own eyes, there is no need to convince that safety is necessary, yes, that a halo is good over a car, and not ugly, that in the rain it is sometimes better not to race, and not to risk it. Well, yeah. Or is there still this element, like with ordinary fans. Damn, why are they standing around? Let's race already. There used to be men, but now who? Yeah, it seems to me that everyone has a different opinion. Well, that is, it’s not like you have different opinions. Nastya is like... Yeah, yeah, it seems to me, I’d probably be more on the side of safety, probably. There you go. Although sometimes you already want something to happen, yes, because after all , well, we're working at the spa again this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we were really looking forward to it with all our hearts. There you go. But overall, I'm probably more of the, yeah, people who welcome all these things, who protect the driver as much as possible. Yeah, we've seen how it works, when everything comes together, also in a lucky chance, yeah, because there are unfortunate cases, and there are times when everything works as it should. Well, like with Roman Gorozhan, when it seemed like all the coincidences came together happily. Everything worked out as it should. So, my worst personal experience is that story with Uber. Yeah. Well, yeah, but I didn't really see how it all happened. There was another incident in Abu Dhabi during the start of some junior series, either Formula 2 or Formula 3, and I stalled at the start, no, I didn't go to the race. Nikolaoslatifi, I think. Yeah. And another car hit it. And it was such a pile of debris. I mean, it was a real cloud of debris. There's even a video where Charlie Wiaiting, well, the guy who used to be responsible, yes, for the starts, including, he's just squatting in his booth because this, yes ... episodes. Yes, but this is definitely Formula 1. There are, well, some small elements clearly in some of the forward parts, most likely, because... Okay, yes, let's move on to this, it's not the first time I've used the word "volunteer." Yeah. There is, uh, let's say, yes, risk and revort, yes, what you said. And on the one hand, as a motorsport fan, it's clear that being here next to the car is cool. On the other hand, as we can see, it's hard work. Yes, it's one thing to fly to some country and enjoy it as a tourist, yes, from everything and at the same time stop by and have a look. It's quite another thing to actually work there from 6:00 in the morning , yes. And judging by everything, this has already happened 30 times, yes, it's just the norm. Yeah. And how did this idea come about? Oh, how did it come about. After all, there is a regular job, right? I understand that, of course. Well, that is, with this job you need to earn enough money to have enough for a hobby, where, as they say, a person digs potatoes at his dacha , yes, and still works in his free time , yes. Well, of course, digging potatoes is not fun, but being in Formula 1 is fun, especially next to the driver, but nevertheless. Well, yes, I also, when, actually, the conversation turns to this , I always say that some people go fishing on vacation, some go hunting, and some, like us, do Formula 1. And somehow it came, in fact, it really is such a childhood dream in some way, because I really love cars since childhood. So, at some point, I formed a corresponding circle of car enthusiasts. Then, my friends, in fact, took me to the team that organizes drag racing. We return to Tigran Sefiryan, for which we are very grateful to him. So. And already there it was a lot of fun in the sense that we were constantly tweaking something, doing something. We, in fact, twisted this the planet with their feet and did racing. That is, when you do something, you understand that there is some kind of result in it, there is a thrill. Although that was also quite difficult. And, well, these were evening races, night races in Vtushino, that is, we could, accordingly, do this, uh, organizing drag racing there all night. So. Then in 2012, Moscow Raceway appeared. Yeah. Then international series started coming to us . Yeah. And the first one was the World Series by Renault. Renault DTM. Yes, but here, yes, but the first one, I remember, this World Series by Renault came, yes, and they recruited us, our team was also invited. And when they asked me, well, will you go or not, do you want to go or not? I said: "Well, of course, it's the first step in Formula 1." I don't know, I already realized at that moment that I had some kind of this , ah, this dream, uh, That's what I want to do in Formula 1. That's it, from that moment on, it was probably the work itself, to get into Formula 1, because, of course, we were gaining experience in DTM, Superbike, and VTCC, actually, we judged all those races, gaining experience in the pitlane. Well, that's how it was. And why did it happen that way? Yes, that's how it was initially - it turned out that the team that organized DCR-ing was called to organize the pitlane. So, maybe you're used to working close to the cars there ? Well, probably, probably, yes. Well, well, maybe there were some other reasons, but overall, we found ourselves in the pitlane, they very quickly told us everything there , how and what to do, and, basically, launched us into battle. That's it. Well, we seemed to cope, so, actually, from then on we just gained experience. And, of course, when Formula 1 came to Russia in 2014, Naturally, this experience was needed in Formula 1, and we were invited to take part in Formula 1. And Formula 1 immediately entrusted it to the locals, yes, to our Russians. That's all. No, they had a first, or they sent some sort of experienced ones, and we were just there to help . Well, they taught, as I understand it, in this way. That is, yes, we had invited people, uh, as trainers, they were probably Australians. Yeah. Yes. And they kept an eye on us, but overall the team was, well, Russian, and we did everything ourselves. Everyone coped. There were no complaints from the very beginning. Yes, I think we even won the best Grand Prix at some point. That's why we got our first go right away. Yes, yes. That's why here from F1, I don't know, the same Charlie Whiting, he was still alive then, yes, he somehow gathered everyone, yeah, together, by the way, some kind of speech I was pushing there, yeah, probably, yeah, probably, well, at these briefings, first of all, they really do show up. I remember there was a group photo in the pitlane when everyone was there. I saw it and ran up and took a photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were definitely talking to us . And we also have, like, ma pitlane, even on the starting grid. Yeah, well, there wouldn't be room in the pit lane, yeah. There were several, maybe even a couple of hundred people. Well, about 500, a little less, I think, somewhere around 400-500 usually work. So, this orange mass of us is actually at the race. I mean, if you look at that frame, there's not a single orange spot there. That's it. It's especially funny in the pitlane when the pit chief says: "I'm looking at the pitlane, it's all orange, because the marshals and fire marshals, they're also standing in orange. I'm watching the broadcast and I don't see a single one. How they do it is unclear." That's it. But there really are a lot of us there. That's it. And I wanted to tell you about Charlie Whiting. Well, in general, we have another thing in the pitlane. We are given a separate briefing, that is, the person who starts the race, now it's Rebecque, and before that there was Chris, and Christian and, well, before that, Charlie Whiting, they do a separate briefing for those who work on the starting grid. That is, they tell us how these panels work. Therefore, we, as pitlane, also communicate with them a little, probably, closer. That's it. And at each race, the main crowd, that is, these are locals and a few, like, out-of-towners. Yes. Yes, basically. So, that is, and also because they don't have enough or because they specifically invite people from other countries to dilute this community a little, to give experience to others or maybe, probably, there is a shortage somewhere, this can happen, but basically it's really to dilute the community. That is They make it so welcoming. They sometimes even take some life hacks from us, and that's how we learn, too. Well, the most welcoming thing, you already realized that it's Belgium, right? Well, they're just waiting for us. [laughter] Okay. That's it. And the most negative thing, I don't know, you mentioned Silverstone, maybe there. Well, Silverstone is quite difficult in terms of discipline, but they don't have it, they actually have everything very interesting too. They also have their own community, their own marshals, muscles. Well, where will it be the most difficult? The most difficult, actually, I think, is in Russia. We have the most disciplined pitlane, well, in terms of responsibilities, yes, right, in terms of work, it is, firstly, the most responsible. Well, it's clear, you represent your country , right? Well, and secondly, we had quite serious requirements there. That's it. And yes, it's one of the most difficult. Well, not in terms of support or comfort, but precisely in terms of being on your feet a lot, keeping yourself in check. And from that perspective, yes. Well, Silverstone is also similar, actually, there's a bit more discipline there too. Well, okay. And you mentioned Leman, so I understand that Formula 1 is n't limited to drag racing, right? So, expansion has begun. Yes, yes, yes. But Leman was really cool. It was 1919, so. Was n't it when we ended up on the podium by chance ? Yes, well, of course, of course, yes. Well, we did n't know then that we'd come to the podium, but we really wanted to get there. Ah, it seems we'd been trying to get there for more than one year. Well, we just managed to get there that year, uh, where we took the podium. And it was really interesting. I'm working in the pit lane at the estuary because the work there is a little different. I mean, they have a lot of different duties in the pit lane . I mean, you work in shifts, well , for a day, yeah, it's impossible to shoot, right? Yeah, yeah. And 4 hours on, 6 hours off. Do they give you somewhere else too, like where to sleep or what? Or a campervan. Okay. So, you rent it yourself, right? The organizers don't care. Well, they actually provide, well, like a place, yeah. I know that the marshals who work, well, on the track and in other places, they have some kind of, well, big communal tents there. They put them up, well, because otherwise it's a very, very long walk, yeah. There are these big tents with some kind of folding beds stretched out there. Well, I mean, some basic story will probably be provided there. That's it. But we just decided to take the campervan. Well, because it's just trivial from a practical standpoint. It's much more convenient from a visual standpoint. They provide a place, by the way, very close to the pit lane. That is, this is also where you spend the whole night . So. And it's more convenient to cook food in a campervan there . That is, there are such things and advantages, there is electricity, water, everything, everything was connected. So, from a household point of view, it was quite convenient there and it was not far to walk. Well, and so, accordingly, we worked 4-6. One interesting thing is that in Le Mans, you have several types of activities in the pit lane. That is, if in a regular pit lane in Formula 1 we essentially, well, monitor safety, after we've already carried out the starting procedure, then at Le Mans there are different things there. Uh, in some places you measure speed. That is, they hand you, you know, this speedometer, and you, you know, measure the speed of all the cars. In some places you just observe, in others you, like a track marshal, really stand ready if something happens at, well, this is at the entrance to Pitley, you're ready, ah, to pick up the debris or, accordingly, to tow the car. And there's something else there. In general, they're very different. Somewhere it's a flag post, where you just really work, well, already on the track and just like a flag there. Well, it's more interesting because it's varied or is it harder, because no, it's more interesting because when you have four hours, it gives you such variety. And there's a system there where you first, well, for 40 minutes, stand at one point, yes, and then during these four hours you move around. But in fact, what happens next is that at first everyone moves around there very cheerfully, and then everyone chooses their favorite spot. Got it? And there's no strength left there and they just stand there, yes, and, therefore, enjoy what they're doing. And there was no desire to carry out some kind of expansion, like the 24 hours of the Nerbokring, I don't know, the 24 hours of SPA in GT. Well, yes, yes, we're talking about We're thinking about that. Right now we're thinking about the Nürburgring, because we met some German guys in Hungary. That's it. And we're thinking about trying it through them, maybe at the 24 Hours of the Nürburgring. They say it's really cool there. And in general, from a marshalling point of view too. What other go-go-gos were there? Oh, well, Formula E is suddenly in South Africa, right? Yes. So you really are... And Formula 1 is the farthest? Well, I haven't asked yet, where was it the farthest? And the farthest? The farthest, probably. No, no, no, no, no. America, no, no. It's probably still, yes, still Europe and, well, - it's Formula E, right? Formula E, yes, in South Africa. And how did that happen? Oh, well, actually, yes, how do you get to a foreign mountain somewhere. And we met a marshal from South Africa who came to Abu Dhabi. Yeah. So we immediately We realized that since he was from UR, we could try something in Formula E in Cape Town. I don't know, for some reason this idea somehow settled in our heads beforehand, that, well, the UAB was such an accessible country, we could try. That's it. And indeed, several marshals who worked in Abu Dhaba got together there. They also picked up this idea for some reason . And we all got together with them and went to South Africa. Formula E is also a pit lane. Well, the pit lane in Formula E is a slightly different event. That is, of course, it's probably not as lively as Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In Formula 1, but overall it was also interesting. It was a new experience. Well, the warm-up lap is also there, which is 100 meters, they accelerate for 30 meters and stop. And I, to be honest, didn't take part in the starting procedure, yes, unfortunately. Yes, we were exactly Those marshals, there was this little corner of the pit lane, yeah, where they, well, drove accordingly. Basically, our job was, well, basically, not to get hit, to warn everyone, because they're silent. They really are silent, yeah, and in general, of course, it's not that, yeah, it's not that kind of motorsport. Well , yeah, I'm very relaxed about Formula E. Well, maybe because of the place it's held in. I mean, well, I mean, if something interesting happens in Uruguay, it used to be, right? Something like, how else would you get to Uruguay? Well, you know, the most interesting thing was that this Marshal, he himself, the one who initially brought us there from South Africa , he himself didn't participate in Formula E because he had another race, because he works at the kilopit. And when we were flying, those of us who are planning to return to Formula 1 , and we, when we were flying there, he was on a transfer He took us to a kilometer-high track, and we went for a ride. It was super cool. Well, I mean, it's an F1-level track. Well, they probably need to do something there with the surrounding area. But of course, it's very picturesque. I think it's really cool. Good afternoon, Alexey. Anastasia, is it hard for you to wave a flag? And what kind of training does a marshal need in general? Well, well, training. Well, of course, it's cool if you're in good shape, yes, that's generally speaking, I guess, that's a general answer now. Let me clarify then. Nastya, how much does she run a day? Nastya runs several hundred steps a day . Yes, [laughter] a bicycle floats by. What? Yes, Nastya, yes. She participates in sports in a motorsports organization. I see. Yes. Yes. Good. Then the first part is about the flag. About flags. No, it's not very heavy. Of course, they come in different types. Long Wave, yes, it happens. Well, the main thing here is to get the hang of it. In fact, you have to do it right away. Yes. Yes. Yes. It takes a long time to get used to it. No kidding. Now we have flag marshals, but they replace each other. Oh, okay. It's just physically to a lesser degree, yes. But we, accordingly, also work, we know how to work. Training is really not physical, but there are real flag training, when, for example, we work at Russian races there, there is no electronic signaling, there we practice a cascade, for example, giving and so on. That's it. That's what I wanted, then, we clarified about different races, but since I follow your social media, I see that you simply combine business with pleasure. These are not just trips, right? Each time, uh, they Google it or through friends of other marshals they find out some rare sports, racing, automobile museums that are open once a year, for one day in the year, and you manage to get to this museum on this day and take pictures of everything there. That is, it is a truly endless passion for the car. Yes. Yes, I can say that. Well, I generally love to travel, actually. For me, new places are always some kind of discovery. Well, of course, many people are into this, but it's cool to give some places additional meaning by visiting racetracks that, well, we are unlikely to ever get to. I also went to Zolder every time. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Yes . Well, it's interesting to see, especially when it's some kind of racetrack, and, well, how can I say it? Quite rich in history, yes. And I have a friend who was just in Italy, and he managed to drive along the Pescara racetrack, which he saw that in the fifties there was a semi-urban track there. And so he drove, took a video there, and sent it to me. Cool. We were in Belgium, in Chimay. And we noticed this by chance , because Chimay - This is one of the six tropists, as we know. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. This is not water. Yes, yes. Here. And there we really noticed that some turns on a regular road look like they're racing. Here. And we were like: "Oops, there must have been a track here." And then we really look, some building that looked like a control tower there. In general, we found something there. It was really cool, but everything is documented, I hope, for a future book. Anastasia Ivanovskaya, My Travels. That would be cool, by the way. Phantom racetracks, tracks where no one has set foot. Yes. Well, there are some really cool racetracks. Well, that is, Mount Panorama. It's magnificent. My God, it's simple. But now in more detail, when I asked where you'd been, well, we didn't work there, yes, but we'd been there. We'd been there, wow. We'd been there , we'd driven around. Around Australia, of course. Yes, yes, we had We rented a car, so we drove there, of course. There 's, well, the option to get there, just drive along it, like a regular road. And that, of course, is something incredible. Well, it's super picturesque. But how do you get there, for example, there, well, they're 1,000 km away in Batorstvo, yes, or 12 hours in Batorstvo. Yes, yes, yes. Well, we weren't at the race , we were just... It's essentially accessible, yes, it's just easy to get there if a person has already made it to Australia, yes, and we were there for New Year's, so there was nothing going on there, yes, yes. Yes. So, unfortunately, we didn't get to see anything there. Well, sometimes we just spectate. What are our plans anyway? Well. Well, we were spectators at where we were, we were at Daytona. What Daytona? Nascar or No, no, it was the Eames 24 Hours of Daytona. It was actually the Rourberfor Daytona, if Cheda is like a floor like that qualifying. I think our Kirill Ladygin was there. We even met him. We were at the India this year. Yeah. 500. Uh, so how was it? Amazing. Well, it's clear that Robert Shwartzman's team, yes, yes, it's difficult there, I think the team of marshals works professionally there. There's some kind of them and they drive them around all the stages, probably, yes. Probably, yes. They have a different story there. That's it. But as spectators, it's also, of course, an absolutely amazing event. There are so many people, I think I've never seen anything like it. It's just a real crowd, yes, a real crowd. And it's really cool that everyone is in some kind of racing merch. Uh, well, it's nice to see when the spectators, well, they're rooting for someone, yes. You, I also know, always pay attention in the broadcasts when the spectators have some really, really all sorts of things. And I know, then if someone He's rooting for someone. This brings us to the next thing. Again, studying Nastya's social media, I realized that she's rooting for Hulkenberg, who finally made it to the podium, and it was a huge celebration. How long have you been rooting for Hulkenberg, and is it only him? Well, of course, I root for our guys. It's not even, well, up for discussion. It's simply outside this whole system of rooting, so to speak, and that's all. If there's one of our guys, then I'll root, of course, but for our guy. That's it. But Nika, yes, that's not my kind of racing, yes. I've been rooting for him, well, probably for about 10-12 years. Here he is, when he still has to at least develop, to be that very person who... Yes, yes, yes, yes. But he wasn't doing very well there, so, yes, that's why we're in this race. This is also, by the way, a spa. It was, uh, the year when there was a sprint there for the first time, probably 23. That's it. Yes. And we were in the sprint, of course. So, he started something like nineteenth, and, I think, he practically pitted for the main race . So, we did n't have a great time together, but overall, yes, I met him. We once ended up in the paddock at Silverstone . Well, not as a marshal, but as guests, they invited us to the paddock, and I met him there, and also gave him a matryoshka doll, of course. So Nick, I mean, he now has a LEGO trophy, yes, for his daughter, yes, and now he also has a matryoshka doll of marshals. Well, well, well, also, yes, well, so that I can somehow communicate with him in real life . No, not enough. Well, who else would I support more? I like the Aston Martin team simply as a team. Simply because, of course, they are these in all their iterations, or starting with Astn Martin? No, no, not in all the variations. I like it exactly. Well, not with Jordan, okay. Sforza. Okay. With Varsandia, I just like how this team is in general, despite everything, how much has been with them. And in general, these guys, they are, of course, monsters. There. Uh, we're practically done. I just want to say, well, you've already partially answered that you don't want to jinx it, but I'll rephrase it then. What racetracks would you ideally like to visit? Not where you're going, but maybe on the contrary, some unattainable ones, like Las Vegas or something - I don't know about that. Yes, yes, yes. That's a really good question, because probably almost every Marathon has a dream of getting to Monaco. Yeah. That's difficult with that, because only our own people are there, yes, there, first of all, our own people are generally very difficult, to be honest. But I even had a chance, even almost, I already had one foot in there It was even approved, yes, I even had a letter confirming that we were taking you. But 2020. Yeah. 2020, yeah. That's it. And, of course, Monaco remains at the top of the bucket list in any case. Especially since there was already the 500 Mendianapolis and 24 Salimani. That would be, basically, just one step left of the Triple Crown . Okay. Yeah, judging, yeah, but you can't judge in India, basically, but yeah. So, Monaco is still mine. Well, overall, I'd actually like to judge on some iconic tracks, I don't know, Malaysia, for example. Well, that would be cool. And Singapore would be very interesting. We applied several times, but they, yeah, the local marshals there say: "Well, you just sweat all the time and that's it. And that's it." If the locals are sweating, then you can imagine how it is not local. Yes, yes, yes. But it's cool there. Yes, yes. I want to go somewhere there, towards Asia, to try. Well, America too. Well, that's more complicated. I want to go to Las Vegas too, because it seems like there is a very special story there in terms of the holiday , in terms of organization. I'm interested in that too. I look at that, at the marketing there, at everything. And what about Nastya's relationship with motorsports? Well, no, at least I have a rental car. Well, okay, I have a license. I have a license. Even for a motorcycle. Even for a motorcycle. Well, that's it, do we comply or do we comply? We comply. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, I don't drive very often, but if I do, yes. Days. No, no, that's not about me. It's not, well, I don't really, I think that I'm not a very good driver. Well, then you need to improve, work on yourself, or it's not interesting. Rather not. I'm more about people. I'm about people. That's what attracts me to motorsport. These are people. Almost the last question. Due to the development of artificial intelligence, it's practically becoming, I would say, a permanent question for us, almost a column, yes, it can be asked about every profession. And the future of a living human marshal. We also think about this sometimes, actually . Well, of course, of course, but it seems like we have to take too much into account. That is, we need to consciously understand what's happening, yes, either give the yellow flag, as if technology hasn't reached that point yet. And yet, the orange people will still be on the tracks. For our lifetime. I really hope so, because, of course, technology doesn't stand still, but the flags there have already become digital. We, naturally, join in with this, we wish with all our might that as many more racetracks as possible are visited. Now the final question is truly traditional for us. What are you first in? What am I first in? I'm first, mm, probably in that, and to figure out where to go. Yeah, and to go through all this The way to finally get a response. And, accordingly, they took us to the track, we arrived and established ourselves as excellent marshals, waved to all our spectators via the live broadcast from the pit lane, and always made it a joy to see our guys in the pit lane. Yes, yes, yes. So, a little bit left. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work . Anastasia Ivanovskaya was our guest. This is the formula of first place. First and red with support.