Bench: Timofey Mozgov

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LF. Hi all. This is a new issue of Bench. Here is Mirabi, here is Lebanon. And today we are visiting, finally, as he loves speak, basketball player. A basketball player and none other than Timofey Mozgov. Hi all. And he has the right to say so. Just a second. He can speak as he wants. this sport. Well, by the way, it's interesting why you should know that basketball. Why basketball player? Basketball. I don't know why I don't understand at all why there is such an acceleration started. That's the first time I heard about it such. You're [ __ ] nuts. During, during our time Well, I just I'm laughing at during our hobby. Okay, let's talk about hobbies. let's talk some more. Thank you for coming. Thank you for inviting me. Finally arrived. Hey, come on, Let's get started. Don't start. Even when our podcast was not released in cooperation with a wonderful company, when we made it ourselves Yes, NB, from the very beginning of our podcast, from the very first episode we your name was. From the very first, Yes, there was. And I But sometimes you're in America, sometimes you're in Krasnodar, then you have a media league. Parents' work. I I can't, well, change the most important thing parents' work. Yes. Parents accept. No, actually I still don't understand, Why didn't I fly to you, but really not in time it was taking shape. And now I am in general permanently in Moscow. Let's do each one I'll be watching podcasts for a week. That is, it is possible come up with a new podcast. Come on, come on. The last time I did, well, even before that, When I got to MBA, I watched a match with them stars. One time I woke up there at night, I I don't remember, at 5:00 or what time in the morning it was I had to wake up at 4:00 to watch the all-star game. Considering that I, well, adored and loved it there basketball, I did it once, I woke up and never again I wake up to watch basketball. I'm better with I'll review it in the morning. Well, in our case it was convenient. We are straight when in Yakutsk Yes, we lived in Yakutsk. We have it at 10:00 in the morning, at 11:00 in the morning it showed. I'm in my time as instead of cartoons I left at one time, I didn’t go, more precisely, to chemistry lessons on Fridays because They stood there for the first two lessons. I Instead of chemistry lessons I went and watched Chinese ESPN. In short, a basketball So it turns out you can have the song now take. If you haven't studied chemistry, then Mr. Heisenberg it turns out undeservedly. Fine, ok, ok. What year is it? Beat it off, beat it off. Far-fetched, so to speak. Okay, let's start talking about him. stories. Bench. We always try to reveal our heroes, as you understand. Go ahead, ask questions then. A thought you could handle it yourself. We will help We listen to the media. No, well, you there You might want to clarify something there, maybe there. Let's start, perhaps, with the most important thing. We one way or another, we touch on the topic, because that most often it is fathers who sit here. Well, except for the measure. This is where fathers usually sit. I'm just a loser. Your dad is a handball player. Here you go one of the main topics, periodically that arise here at our table. Why do children most often not choose their fathers? the same sport that their fathers? So, your dad is a handball player, and You went into basketball. I haven't tried handball at all. Tried it. I was involved in some kind of handball. Well, I have a different story, yes. Let's say, If you take me and my son, I I would, of course, like him to play basketball. That is, there are, yes, several types of fathers, probably, are the ones that They practically beat their children with sticks. If only those, whether they want it or not, they we have to do this because my father whether it worked or not, here you are I have to and that's it. Well, I'm more so in this regard. calm. My child was studying and I did swimming and a little boxing, and I tried tennis a little bit, and basketball. Unfortunately, he doesn't I liked it until a certain time. And now he 13 years old. And now he finally started, he found coach, maybe with whom comfortable. It's hard for him, he's a little bit out of his league he lags behind the guys, behind some of them, yes, he doesn't really get it. Well, I was the same. Well, it seems like he is, yes, he is doing it now, He's been here four or five times a week since school. tired. And that's how much September is I haven't done it for a month yet, that is, before, when I took him to basketball, this is one and the same, this is a dissatisfied face. Yes. I told you, I don't want to. Oh, that's it now. he sits down, drives, no problems, well, that is, he himself tired, not tired, everything goes there. All Guys, that's it. Well, he is so sociable. I have a boy. This is all with him, well and maybe the team That's why it's like this. And I had it with my father So. He is my former Gumball player, he is played, I finished, and such a team was Niva in Saint Petersburg. Yes. Here. There he was playing handball. AND, Actually, I was born when he was there. I played Gumball in Leningrad. And I don't know why, but my father never wanted me to play in handball. That is, well, there was no such thing, that you should become a handball player. He, well, I was little there, he was drying up: "You will be basketball player, you'll play great basketball?" Yeah, I will. Well, like, that is, he himself loved basketball parallel? Well, somehow I wouldn’t say that he has He had a great love for basketball. Well, for some reason, here he is, maybe, it just worked out that way for him, but he was Here is a professional Gumball player. And I wanted him to play basketball. As a child it was clear that you were already some kind of pretension? No, no, listen, nothing was clear. I have already said this many times, but once again we we're telling you, that's why I was sitting on it lesson, and I was there, it turns out, 9 years old or how much. I was sitting in class. fine arts. We drew something there, some landscapes. studied. And a woman came in Zhelki Sana is such a trainer in St. Petersburg. was, and she was just looking for girls for herself, Well, tall girls, basketball team. You know, they used to do it like that it worked. You can't go into school now. She comes there on the back of March already like this. You are all like this, and he is like this. sits. I didn't do it earlier, in short, now you go to school, but before it was possible go to school. Here she just walked in the class, like knock-knock-knock, she opened two. the coach also there are high ones and yet here he is, well, I wasn’t the one who was taller, but not by much, that is, well, not directly, so that he would come out and jump around, I ran around in the hallway and she said, "That's it, "Come to the basketball game." And so and she also made me jump and run in the corridor. Okay, like, jump up, jump forward. Well, something like that, you know, bail is cool draft, just imagine, it’s just not Draft Combine Draft Combine at school. That's all I've done. Then she told me She gave me her phone and took it from me. home, and we had a home phone, do you remember? Yes. Yes. Here. Uh, we remember, You remember, right? That's all. And that's how I got there in basketball. Then I'm tall then became, that is, like, well, above everyone else. I then he came to St. Petersburg again, and when I I was probably 13 years old. I have it there the kingdom of heaven, relatives died, and we went to the funeral. Here. And I returned to the same team with the guys, which we started with. This is Pancrash just. I'm actually with Anton. We started with Pankrashov together Admiralty. He's a little bit earlier than me. came. They, when I first came, They've been there for, um, probably six months, a year, We had been playing basketball for some time already. Well, that's it, that's it. But Antokha was always there talented, he was even a leader. Here. AND And someone else was there, two of them came out. A, maybe someone else? Well, from that team, listen, well, there were a lot of guys, but so, so that you know right here on the big level, professional, only two. Well, listen, this is one year old, one sports school. How long have we been in the national team? intermingle, well, Well, powerful, very powerful. Here. AND Why did you knock me down? I mean, I did you tell me? It's already scary. Did you return to St. Petersburg periodically? Oh, yeah, I was going back to St. Petersburg and I went to the same team where I started. Uh, yeah, As soon as we, the team matured, went to to the next coach. I just arrived and I'm so excited, and more and more of me, Guys. Well, I was tall, well, there Some kind of horses in general huge. The netrenet says: "Well, "You are, of course, a bit small." I'm like, "Well, "Have you seen him again?" No, I know him, listen. Well, I have it. I understand perfectly. I'm really there was smaller in size. Listen, you know there are, uh, trainers who somehow in this way, uh, these young ones, even not talents, but the body, they see them. They see who will grow up, who will not grow up. Well, that's about time work, there 30, there, 20 years, they are they many, many generations have already passed, they some things for myself, approximately emphasize. Well, here he is, you can see it somehow I missed something about that somewhere, yeah. Here it is All. I went back, and then at 15, I was 15, years old, I was already taller I was already there, I was like, "Oh, "Wow, you've grown up." That's how it is. it worked. And you can, I don’t know, well no only for my children in general roughly determine whether a person will be tall or not? I can't, honestly, I can't. Listen, They were there with us, my father had them an acquaintance, he was a tennis coach, and I was there when we were about 12 years old, I then I moved to Krasnodar to live, My family moved there to live Krasnodar to the Republic of Odegeya. And there we had an uncle, he was engaged in tennis. I went to him when he was like this says: "Well, it will definitely be 212." Like, well, I'm there, well, okay, it will be good. Well, that's how people determine it, Well, someone looks at the knee joints there, There are different things there, I don't know. Well, I definitely do. I know that my children will be tall. I have The child is 13 years old, and he is my height. already meth 95, meth 97 already, probably even. Well, that is to say, it is growing. And now it's summer This cross age will begin when they are straight will grow strongly. Yes, you and your son, and his shoe size is already forty-nine. So and your son will be taller than you. My son's leg is already bigger. Here By the way, have you seen his son? Well, I haven't seen you for a long time. Well, it's as if it were him It will be exactly 90 meters. Well, no, Well, he will be very tall. I believe so. Let's see how you like the coach in Adyga said, because Let's take it. Let's go to Adeigea Let's take the coach there and let him take a look. will say. Zamito Adygea coaches. They all they know. Everyone knows. Yes. I wonder how you are doing Did you train in Adygea? Listen, well, I have such a story there. happened. How old were you when you went there? are you moving? Ae, 13, 13, well, something like that, yeah. I'm moving there, and I was already playing basketball there. I just wanted to get on with it, to continue, and where we arrived directly, well, there in Adygeria, yes, we, well, didn't have any then there will be no sports section there, like say yes. A a a a a a a adge There used to be a track like this Azik, Rusik. Well, in short, this one too Is it possible to throw oneself into it? Great. You can go into it. I'll quit too. I'm silent, I'm not interrupting you. Communicate Play by yourself. Oh, here it is Can we talk? Can we talk? If you confuse me, I will confuse you. throw. By the way, where is the album? And everything that is there plant? Oh yeah, I was about thirteen there, and when we moved to live gay, there was no section there. To me I had to there, that is, with me, I I told my mom and dad I want to continue train. Here. Well, of course, then I didn't know how How will this end? And she's somewhere She was already studying physical education there, somewhere there for some reason I found it for a third friend, he said, over there in the neighboring village, 7 km away So there is a coach That's why I'm a physical education teacher. Here you have he's there twice a week sometimes there three workouts. Will you go? I'll go. And in the end I have all my The brothers went to study at the same school there. A I went. So I went to every day school by bus. It turns out it was because of basketball. Because of basketball, yes. Here I am. And the gym was actually full-size. or approximately as usual. This the gym where the wall is on the ring is rough speaking, yes? Yes. Ring on the wall, wall on the ring, yes. Where are you if just a little bit faster than you run, than you walk, then you crash into the wall. There was such a thing, yes. Well, at least you can hammer it from the wall from above, if you get a good run-up. So, I pushed off and scored from above. That's all. I started training there. Well and just started growing. Here is also a story about that, there's not only some kind of hard work there or there, I don’t know, it’s connected with something, well any of your professional ones attitude to business, but also, of course, some kind of environment of yours, some kind of yours luck, it still, well, has to be present. It is clear that a person has, who works a lot and for something he dedicates himself, he has more chances there, roughly speaking, to win in any area, than a person lying on the sofa, like, and it's not anything like that. Here. AND He was like a coach. He is a basketball coach. Well, listen, well, he’s going to the village, then if he were there, he could have done well throw, there, he could do it well discipline the team. That is, we are there. We were playing, of course, there in the area The district championship was, we, Of course, everyone played it up there. Here. Ah, but there are some all-Russian ones there competitions, well then, of course, Was it a combined school or was it was there a team school? Team school. Team school. National team school. Team school. I was getting it then, I came there seventh. Seventh or eighth, right? A the guys were there, someone from the tenth already there were classes, well, such a team school, we beat everyone, we traveled around district. Well, that is, roughly speaking, there the area has many different villages and settlements uh, I turned it on. That's right, guys, not only in the cities boys in villages playing basketball They also love basketball. I'm just now I thought, well, it's just like in America would have definitely made a film about this already. some kind of documentary film or feature film, like the village on plays the village, and then from there, and then from this village NBA champion generally guest Timokha and I'm right in front of my eyes, you don't know him, I guess I watched it, I don't know if you watched it. or not the series Proshaka. No, I didn't watch it. There is Proshaka, there are four or so series there five-part series, something like that. And he has the same there's like a story there that he has it there he re-educated in Germany, his father's father is there served in Germany, and he, in fact, trained in Germany at a military base. And all this is shown. And here you are You're telling me in front of the map the picture before my eyes is something something like that, you know, a person started there play in St. Petersburg, then he left just there in the central city of Russia, not to Krasnodar, but to Adygea, to the village. Well, Well, no. Uh, the village where I live is in Adyge, it's not that far from there Krasnodar. This is not just any village, it's a settlement. urban type. I went to Krasnodar train. Well, that is, a rural school, I went to village, I went to another village, yes. We played there against different villages after, Yes, It's just, well, we all know Russian reality, yeah, well, that's it village gym. Well, listen, In general, our entire sport, it seems to me, Well, that is, all of ours, well, there are a lot of them athletes, people from abroad, they are all from here stories like these, well, that is, from some small villages, small cities. There is one platform for everyone, there is no other. Well, maybe in Moscow or St. Petersburg. The guys are a little better, they can do it right there some kind of sports, specialized one right away send your children to school. So, platform one for everyone. such a social one sports lift for all regions one. You start with coaches who enthusiast, Well, yes, who do everything not for money, who they just do it because someone loves basketball, someone there he is a physical education teacher, that's it He trains the school for extra pay. Here These are the stories. This is what it is, It seems to me that the base of ours in general Russian sports. Well, at least, basketball for sure, yeah, I think, and that's it the rest of the sport, Yes. gratitude to such people who They train children with enthusiasm. Yes, a lot we went. I'm going again now. do a small project. I used to, when I was playing, I came in the summer, well, when I played in MBAI, I came in the summer and we went to different cities, spent tournaments named after Mozgov. Mozgov Kap, Yes. Yes, we spent it in St. Petersburg, there Tyumen, Tobolsk, well, in general, in Perm. 5 on 5 or 3 on 3? And this is 5 on 5, but it’s not two teams. We took it there, we have one like that, We spent, let's say, 2-3 days there, filming hall, 10 teams came there and, Let's say we're going to Tobolsk. Well, and with teams come from all over the region. Somewhere, somewhere, we helped someone, even if it was just a little bit. Well, that is, there you close the hall, you lock the judges there, drink, water and prizes. And prizes, yes. I brought different ones there T-shirts, prizes. Well, listen, these are prizes Everything is great. It is clear that all children love prizes and gifts. But in reality the main part, we communicated with them. It's clear that I couldn't be there 3 days, but on the final day I'm all I spent time with the kids, I watched games, I I took pictures with everyone. Then we all they gathered there in a circle and talked, and The guys asked me questions, I answered everything answered. For them, it’s probably communication. First of all, the coolest thing is that was. And now I will also have such a project. Well, uh, the school still exists, which you studied in the village, Of course, Lyceum number five. You can Google it. Is there a gym? gym. Yes, everything is there. Does the coach train? The coach is done, he doesn't coach anymore. A they built it there like a large sports complex. Fock Federal Physical Education and Health Center. Ah, well, it's kind of like a hangar, right? Not the center, in short, Fox, a large hangar, where there is a kind of gym, physical education computer Well yeah, sort of. They built a gym there, like, in Angara. and volleyball, because at our school We had strong volleyball too because the volleyball coach was there too. Didn't anyone drag you to volleyball? I, listen, I'll tell you more, I I went to one volleyball practice or maybe even two. It was me when I was already living, well, in Adeigea and in Krasnodar went, I honestly don’t remember how it just happened that way. I went to training in Dynamo Krasnodar, in my opinion, is like this there was a team. Well, it's clear what's there some children or, well, not for the first time. Yes. Uh, something jumped around there. Well, I ended up not doing it volleyball player. Here. Well, I'm in the basque Gumball too, I asked you about Gumball, I started playing Gumball too. Well, when I started, I even called myself Gumball. I was probably studying for about a month and a half to two months. Right, uh, I don't know, the audience might not heard. I once, when I was there 14 years old, there are 14 with diarrhea, and I need an operation They did it, and I couldn't run for a year. I couldn't run for a year, I couldn't walk for a month. Yes. Well, in short, this was the operation. To me It was impossible to actually run or walk. And here I am was it an injury or was it physical Just? Well, listen, I won't go into details. go into it, a little bit ugh, I'm whole. Although I would then have this story with me, I would have I already signed the medical examination. Well, I I just jump from story to story. You You're asking me. When I just signed the contract, we put there. You interrupted me. Bench. E when pozalta with Los Angeles, and he it comes into force after the medical examination, roughly speaking. Yes. Here. And I come to play for the national team, and I they don't give access. I say, "What are you doing, Are you laughing? I just, damn, well signed a contract there. Well, they are people too. These aren't fools sitting here. We have our own." I I say: "You need, uh, that is, there it is, Well, the operation was on the pelvis, roughly speaking, he says you should wear a corset always, like strengthening, like squeezing corset, so I say: "Guys, I'm saying, I'm already 30 years old, I'm already, damn, sorry For the sake of expression, I'll play basketball at 20 years old I play with them." What the hell corset? Well, So, that's the story. AND after this one of mine I lay there there, I sat at home for a month, uh, then For six months I simply did nothing. Well Let's put it this way, I cheated the system there, I I started running earlier than, well, walking, run, whatever it was impossible to do. I remember, I'll be there in two or three months went to the basketball court, and, throw a ball. And then everything is like this for me it hurt, I just couldn't, I guess, I spent a week walking around there again and nothing happened. Remind me, what age were you? Well, 14. Are you still in? Yes, yes, I'm still in Adyghe. Yes. I did I went to a hospital in the Krasnodar region I had an operation at the surgical hospital. Here. And this and after I started, I started training after this stories, uh, I'm just saying, "Well, baba," I say, "well, Let's try Gumbo there, let's try it." Well He called some of his guys there. He's in Krasnodar, that's why I My father studied at the institute in Krasnodar. physical education and started playing gumball Same. It was then that he left yesterday. Yes. They met their mother in Krasnodar. Yes. That's all. I went to Gumball. I am a month old I trained there for two years and met my best friend too. He's there in Gumball also played basketball with me. I played, uh, in the neighboring village of Izzabinsk there, well, in short, and then also in handball He played with me too. He stayed in Gumball, and I was studying here for, well, a month, maybe maybe one and a half. And then I sit at home, with us private house, bell, knocking on the gate. The basketball coach says, "Where are you?" I say: "I go to Gumball." says: "Come on, finish with this and that with this nonsense, like I throw it out of my head, "I'm coming to training tomorrow." Well, Cool. The coach came himself, Yes? He came and said: “What are you doing? or what? What gumball? Come on, that's it, we "We're waiting for you." We're losing here. Well, that's all. This is how I came back. AND then this same trainer, here he is, big, on actually influenced me because, despite the fact that he is a school teacher, He also had some contacts. Guys, back then there was Slava Dubko, he coached the Ryazan Major League team. They came to play with Krasnodar, and he arrived. One called him, the other didn't. He was too lazy to leave the city and came there to visit us. to the village. How tall are you at this moment? Well, I don't remember, maybe a meter or two, was. Well, that's something. Well, tall, yes, was tall. U. He arrived. for training, that is, there is a village there incomprehensible, looked at me, said: "Well, yeah, like there's something, I need to go, like in St. Petersburg and control it "side". And that’s how I then left for St. Petersburg. Well, that's it. in short, So, the coach from the village is so big provided such support and influence for Russian basketball in general for, well, I I wanted to say not for Timofey, but for basketball in Russia in general. Lysenko Evgeny Maksimovich. I hope at least he is a literate person for one from what for one of LeBron's champions James, just imagine, that's what he did. Just think about it He's not very good, he's a great guy. Well listen, he is so very disciplined. He really is him I worked there and loved my job. And he has it too such a finger was big. He these, you know how he punished, I'm breaking it. Fan. Fofan, Trust me, you wouldn't want a background like this. He made scary backgrounds there. I just wish the state noted these. We are sitting here now and not We're surprised that we have an NBA champion. Fofan received, Yes, it talks about it absolutely calmly. Now the modern world it's different now like, and the trainer doesn't have the right background put. Well, yes, by the way, Well, it's like this is a different situation. It happens. That is, despite the fact that he he was strict there and he gave a background, everything there, well, it's more like, you know, the story was not a punishment, that is it's like a punishment, well in context, you know, something more friendly. That is me I don't even know how to convey this the feeling that is in the team. That is So, every coach is there, essentially your psychologist. And how does he command? will set up the atmosphere in the team, This is also his big job. That is it wasn't that he was there, because I, let's say I saw the coaches, which now some guys who will watch this podcast, for example, they they will definitely understand right away that they could have been there say: "Come on, [ __ ], 10 times "I did push-ups." So that's the punishment there? Well, no, it seems to me that Russian swearing is you won't be surprised at all, Yes? Well, that happened, that happened too. Yes, Listen, there was a lot of stuff going on. Here Anatolyevich Tymbok's school, eh, we have it here in the boarding school, when I was already in Peter returned to the sports boarding school. Well, you moved to St. Petersburg alone, sorry. already without parents, Yes? I was, it turns out, 15 s2, well, that's it just years old. I left I went to boarding school and wasn't afraid, not at all. was worried. And what? Well, listen, I'm there fed three times a day when You weren't afraid, you didn't overdo it. Listen, well I was fed three times a day. My salary was 1,500 rubles. And me too fed. I still had my salary right away. Well, it's like a scholarship, I guess, after all. or is this a professional contract? there, I don't know how it was arranged structure, but it was a school Olympic reserve and there was one under him Conti Club, later it was called Limo The Leningrad military region is like this club. And we were just playing, he had double, he played in the major league B, that is The older guys were playing at the base here There was such a story about the boarding school. And how We received a salary from the club, I received 1,500 rubles. received. I had enough for pretzels with condensed milk boiled and ee tea. But could we touch on education like this? trainers. Right now, this very moment is happening. teenage in your life when, Well, people, especially with, well, it's not say with physical differences always encountered in childhood, well, with some bullying, I don't know, and so on. Was Was there something in your childhood? something like that, when, well, you clearly stand out against the background of all the others, you, I don’t know, 14 years old, and 2 m, well, like these, Well, not really, you know, even when I was tall but then i moved when It's already the same thing in a boarding school older, more grown up, grow up to your own In general, it was calm among the athletes. But in general, well, you know, I wouldn’t say, Well, in this regard, the boy is there easier than for a girl. I, to be honest, well I have two sons and I am so happy, so I'm glad it's not girls. It is clear that If I were a girl, I would be like that too I'm glad, so glad. But I'll just say honestly, I just saw, well, it seems to me, indeed, there are a lot of big girls, Well, not all of them can handle this. load. Uh, and some are really strong for it They worry that they are taller. There's also something there, Well, you know, not every girl is a beauty. It happens. And so, of course, it’s hard for them. AND complexes, I think that big ones there girls. And I just realize that if I had a girl, well, she would have been She's 13 now, she would be 2 m. Well, Damn, are you serious? Well, this is a test. big. But it's easier for a boy in this matter. Well, or your foot size is already there. forty-third. Neither heels nor shoes, Nothing. Well, listen, I have it too. some, I played basketball, football in They were running around in the street. We played rugby in them on the street, walked in them and went to school in just sneakers. Well, how could you calmly get it badly? How No, I didn't get it. You can do this very easily. I don't know, father, mother, I don't know, they we suffered, we tried everything, but somehow got it. Well, it wasn't there, but now I have it there. 100 pairs, these boxes arrived, and they are standing. I need to distribute it to the guys. young. I brought a lot of sneakers there, uh. out of greed already. Then I had contract with Nike. You recruit them, you collect, then you buy now, You buy it and why? Well, you me You understand perfectly well. Here. And then here it is Maybe I have this complex childish developed. Here. Well, there was one. pair. Thanks to my parents. Since we touched on it briefly, we are now Let's move to St. Petersburg or we've touched in short. Let's go to St. Petersburg. Yes. Now on your image, bro. You don't understand gasoline there. Better not. Since we've touched on growth. Well, then what if this doesn't happen later? opportunity to ask this question in everyday life. Well, here we are, all of this. We're trying to imagine, right? It's constant bending over, I don't know, flying on an airplane, I don't know how to sit in a car. Well then There is, Well, look, let's start from home and go to street to the car, then to the airports and steam locomotives, yes. If you come to the hotel, of course, they are not adapted for large ones at all people. Often there are these short ones beds, especially with a headboard, are simple Are you throwing the mattress on the floor? Don't know, How. How Well, I'm drooling, dangling my legs, like sometimes dangling legs. I'm generally more to you I'll say that now I have my own house. I have a large bed 2s by 2m there three, roughly speaking, is huge. I'm in it I sleep and it's good and comfortable like this. AND when I arrive at the hotel now, There are sometimes hotels where you there you have to hang your legs, for example, no so uncomfortable. But once upon a time there was on the contrary, I, well, I didn't have it there lived in some rented apartment, and I was going around hotels and my legs were constantly hurting hung. And this is already some kind of It was a habit. And when I did it for myself a big bed, earned money, I put a comfortable bed, at first It was just unusual. I'm there, well, like, My legs are not hanging, where should I put them? Well, This was a serious problem. Here that's why I have a house, of course, I have one there I made my sink higher, the toilet is a little higher there, so that, well, there legs did not touch the ears, knees. Here. Uh, and you Sorry for the intimate details. I I apologize, ko, since you said it yourself. Like you have a separate toilet from the rest of the family or? Well, I'll tell you more. In my house several toilets, can you imagine? Not, Well, I see. Well, well, that is to say, no no, well, here in ours high toilet. No, it's not a high throne, it's like a little bit higher. How long will we discuss the toilet? I'm interested. Give me something. Well, there's a sink everywhere. the same height. No, mine is higher, my wife's is a little lower. That's how it is. By the way, you have a wife also high. Meter 80. Yes, high. Were your parents tall or father 202, mother 80. Oh, well, give or take, Yes. This is what concerns the house. I'm there in the house I made enough for myself, I have high ceilings, high doors. I have nowhere in the house No need to bend over, I can do it anywhere pass calmly. But when you get out at home, yes, there we are now before we rode trolleybuses, and the metro, and Well, I've been everywhere. Well, that is to say, I was I didn't always have my own car. AND By the way, the old subway cars are much more loyal to the tall ones. That is, there I can full growth. Now here are the new carriages metro, some of them you can't even stand at full height. You can't use elevators. some can stand at full height. How many I hit my head, that's a lot. Now Well, it's just a matter of habit now. Here. I think one of the things why I don't I wear a cap because you are no one always, you have attention, as if You know, you drive like this, Well, you just keep going and going, and that's how you go. you walk, and it’s already on automatic for you, uh, when you have to bend over. Yes. And when you put on a visor, you have as if the look of this, well, does not feel, So, you bend over, like you're going to kick yourself does not bend. I think so, That's why I don't wear caps. Cool. Here. A as for cars, with cars too It's hard, you can't fit in at all. This is the same thing story. I told her a lot about how I I went to buy myself a Lamborghini. Funny, right? Already and didn't buy it. There is no back row to go there. leave. Here. That's why with cars problem. I will never be able to live there there should be some kind of sports supercar there, because, well, I just won't fit. Here aircraft, Well, we suffered, we used to fly. I can buy a plane, imagine, like this one conclusion. Rhar. No, I can buy a plane. No, flying on airplanes, well, that's it. passage, or some kind of fire exit, if it there is, or in the passage. This is before was. Now I can afford it fly business class. What did you buy? instead of Lamborghini I could never buy a Lamborghini. A, but nothing. I look, just for some reason suddenly for a second. Not, No, I just remembered, that's how it is for me it turned out, I just left for New York, earned his first money there American money and came to Moscow. My friend and I are holding a club we went. We went to buy a Lamborghini. I say: "That's it, brother, I'll be on Lamborghini". I dreamed of it after NFeska The sixth one, I think, is Lamborghini. there Still yellow. I absolutely adored it. Well, that's all, I I went to this store, a-e, used, not new, I'm not that rich was. Here we are. I just open the door and realize, Okay, I'm going. It's a used Lamborghini. wanted to buy. I kind of, yeah, wanted to condemn the used one Lamborghini. Here. And in general, he didn’t fit in. And he has it there were videos, he was filming it all on telephone. He laughed at me as I did then I couldn't fit into some Ferrari. AND We basically left there. And then I, uh, I didn't buy anything for myself in Moscow, because Well, I was right here, literally right there. months, there are 3 months a year in the summer I also played for the national team. And I like the car in general wasn't needed that much. And we are mine friends from BMW back then, they were still working, they kindly provided me with automobile. I drove, I had different cars they gave, and mini-Coopers, and sevens, and all sorts. I really enjoyed Mini Coopers. It's awesome, absolutely awesome. This is the very one a picture where your head is out of the roof, in short, is it going or not? Damn, the Mini Cooper is so small. Well, I'll surprise you, it's small, yes. There three of us like me will fit, but for the steering wheel there was quite comfortable, Yes. It seems like everything is being pushed aside. right there. Well, let's say, I'm not Smart I'm getting in. I fit, but I wouldn't be able to ride. there. Sar, what do you mean? This is the one that is this Yes, yes. constructor. I rode on it, the wind would just blow it away. She's really, really light. Yes, it's scary. the car in general. Stshna. When did you manage to ride it? Here in Moscow. And they were in car sharing 10 years ago there were a lot of them crash sharing in general. Here is a small car. Stas and I are them we went. Bench. Let's go back to St. Petersburg. Let's go with We will be happy to return to St. Petersburg. This What year? Plus or minus 90. When did I come back or when did I leave? All, izge izde you return already. No, it's not ninety-eight, it's, probably from 2000 syachny, something like that, probably 2000. I even need to look at the years. Well, it's not that important. You are 15 years old, Yes? 15, by years, Yes? You go back there and they take you right away. without any conversations at all? No, I arrived, I arrived there on viewing, yes, and they told me: "That's it, come on over." I'm right in the middle of school. years. Why do I know that I am half it was years, because I have a day born in July, and it was in winter, yes, roughly speaking, and so half a year, that is, yes, I I came there and started studying. Do you remember your impressions? It's you after all left St. Petersburg, well, no I know, this is your first elementary school, first grades, you return, well, in There are also two schools in St. Petersburg. I changed schools, it turns out, one, two. Third, four, four schools it turns out changed. Here. Yes. And at 15 I moved to Peter. Well, what does it feel like? Cool. But I I just arrived in St. Petersburg, there, well indeed, guys, well not all, but many just, well, really were They played stronger than me there then. And Pancrash I've already played for the first team there, I think I was messing around with the second one team. Uh, there was some separate trainer center or is it just one coach for the whole command and that's it? Well, there was one who said: "A "Come on, [ __ ], do 10 push-ups." But he wasn't. Listen, well, stories They were different. We had one like that there, Well, I won't name names, there was only one of us, this guy, he, you see, We, uh, sometimes played stuffed ones there These balls are heavy, like in rugby. IN rugby was played, Yes. You had to pass there and that’s it. And he I was already so much older. Here he is, simply I took the ball like this, This is how I took my fist and walked and won. That's how it was. Well, and when will he? he came when he was at training, well, no always came when he came to training, that is, he is there, well, you it's just wildly killing me and like, "There was no foul." And he was like, "Well, no. there was a foul." That is, that's it and it was hard. And then, listen, don't I know, then somehow little by little, became a little stronger and better. Then I left for Samara later. Same. I didn't know this about Samara. Yes, I was in Samara. SK BBC2 Samara was. This was just such a story, as far as I remember. It's just CSKA Double talented guys. They, well, it's obvious that to play them so that they can play somewhere, they spilled them. There was a team there then Dim Peresypkin, Urozman, Petya Gubanov. Oh, there were, well, a lot, a lot of guys there. there was, uh, Tokha Glazunov was. So, now there's still time to reminisce there you remember. Here you are, uh, when you realized, that basketball is for a long time, Are you already in St. Petersburg or still in Adygea? Well, that is to say That's it, I'll be doing it basketball, I want to become professional player. It turns out, I can't answer you this question. I just always liked it, I always was doing. But probably, when I started getting some there money, yes, that's where I am when I'm in Samara, I think it was something like 35,000 rubles. I received, well, a little money, but nonetheless less. Well, I just knew that it was possible to do a little earn more. I didn't realize how much In general, I didn't even know the prices there professional teams, well, how many who could receive it there? Here. And I, of course, I started to put in more effort. And then, when Hinky got into the second command, and I just sat there and said: "I have it, I don't know how it is with you was your musical career there or, Well, I just understand that this is also not an easy path, a huge path. And to everything I had to learn and gain this experience huge." But I had it like this, I was sitting just in the locker room after some workout. I played for the second team. Which team? Khimki. Khimki. I received it there, I don’t want to lie, I think it was 75,000 rubles. I have a salary I was there, well, not everything that was there. Well, maybe a little more than usual the person who was earning money then. So I was just sitting there, I was already It turns out it's been about 20 years or something I can't say for sure. And I just sat there, thinking, is that all? Is this really me now? Will I have to play like this all my life? for 75 dash 125,000 rub. And he simply dedicated his life to basketball. I have already dedicated it because I did not study. I nougat If I got out of there, I would just, Well, I went to work as a loader because I generally I didn't understand anything, I couldn't do anything. Here. And it’s like, I don’t know, something’s wrong with me as if, I don’t know, it dawned on me, it was illuminated, there was a blast, I don't know, something exploded in heaven, but from that moment on it was like changed his attitude towards the matter even more and I started working even harder and and then, well, and then little by little, Little by little, here is the result of his work It had an effect somehow. I just had a moment, you know, as if some kind of epiphany. I'm straight not even an epiphany, you know, not an epiphany - this is uh, the epiphany of the fact that something is not if it changes, it will be really wild despair. And I'm like, "No, I'm not I agree." Well, that is to say, there is some kind of, I I don't even know how to explain it. This is it Some kind of poltergeist happened. Here It's really like poltergeist. And at that moment or before that you already something like that, Yes? You're the only one who's laughing there. No, I understand going and in the sense of having a goal for yourself I've already installed it. You say I started again work hard. For what? for that, to, Well, I just started to realize that I I need to somehow, I don't know, become better, I needed to change something, but I couldn't do anything change, besides, to more work. Well, I didn't know anything. I am I am I was just, well, lucky, I guess I could I couldn't stand working there for a long time, I was hardworking. Well, not all of them are there, guys. much more talented than me, but they just somewhere, maybe, they didn’t bother enough, in fact. Here. And I don't have anything I have it all in my life, rudely speaking, I have developed such a motto, well not my personal one, but this internal one the motto is that if everything is bad, you have to work. Yes. The more like this, like this. Yes. And someone there, yes, smarter, might say: "Then why work? You need to earn money." You know, well, that's how it turned out for me. And I that's right then, Well, here I have brought my result. Listen, I I can't complain about it. And you from Did they take Peter to CSKA-2 or did you do it yourself? crossed over? Unfortunately, I was too young and I I don't know the details of how it all happened. it's arranged, but I was told that you were going at some point during training they said, you're leaving. Well, it wasn't during training, it was, I think it was in the meeting. Not at the meeting, that's what I think It was summer. I finished there or eleventh grade, or something. I'm honest I don't remember the details anymore. It was so long ago, but it's the bosses with the bosses agreed somehow, As I understand it, this is what it looked like. Well, there are some promising young guys there they are exchanged, they are traded there, they raise them, then they try to sell them for some money. This is how it looked in my case, I I don't know, but I understand that in mine I understand that history turned out in such a way that I I arrived there, there was about half of it to St. Petersburg or Moscow, to Samara. Played for half a season. Wait, you're going to cross paths with him from St. Petersburg. I went to play in Samara. I played in Samara. He played there for half a year, well, even 3 months. 3 months isn't even half a year, the end of season 3 months. And then I had to return to St. Petersburg. Right. Then I came back later, I was supposed to return from St. Petersburg, but I left then to Khimki. Yes. And as I understand it, how is this behind the scenes, I don’t I know it was arranged, but I understand it this way, that they wanted me to go to CSKA too sell, roughly speaking. And Sergeinovich is right there. Bazarevich was the coach. Here and I, well, stayed there for some time. Well there they told me that it is visible, I don’t know who there, CSKA, not CSKA, I don't know who I was doing it, honestly. I have it there, I have it There wasn't even an agent. Yes. I had Vasily Petrovich there, Vasya Petya, we called him. I wish I was Control Vasil Petrovich. Here. Here. And they were always deciding something there. Here. And they say: "Well, that's it, you're not going. to Samara, you're going to Khimki, that's it, You sign a contract for 3 years." I I say: "Oh, what about me? I'll finish, I need to do something, I need to do it somehow, well, Well, eat and drink. I say, "Oh, I'm going, "Great, I'm signing the contract, that's it, that's it." And didn't even discuss any conditions, Nothing. Well, Bro, what are the conditions? I got paid there, they started paying me there, I think, 50 or something like 25 there. Well, and they provided all this housing. Well, they also provided housing there. We had this emya there, I forgot my patronymic, eh, Shkurin. There he is, Well, I loved that kind of thing, you know, there, uh, us because the guys who, uh, are there the third team, they generally lived there several people in the apartment. Yes. And in the second team there are only one of them There are already two of them there. Well, it depends on which one apartment, if expensive or inexpensive. Here. And he was responsible right there for apartments, for everything. And he's like, "Okay, you will live there with this, with with this, with this?" I say: "No, I don't think so They said one apartment." He was like: "Burt, okay, fine." Well, the apartment, yeah, well, the apartment, well, it was like would be, that is, there, as we have light today turned off, there, well, everyone could, every turn off in a minute. That Khimki too, right? Well, of course, everything is in Khimki. There are old ones Khimki, these old houses, old apartments. Was there a big difference for you? at the level of Khimki 2 from St. Petersburg? Well that's it, well, when that's right, Well, from Samara, probably, listen, I have In Samara there wasn't much of a good one either apartment, but I was there I don’t understand, Why did I have a three-room apartment? apartment, I didn't live there alone. Well, and they too They say, like, well, we'll move him in, we'll move him in, like, well, it's visible to several people, no one was moved in. I was there alone. next to the hall. Well, absolutely ordinary. apartment in an ordinary house. Well, here too. a completely ordinary apartment. Well, it wasn't me there. first of all I just changed a lot of apartments while in I'm talking about the level of play in the worst possible way. Maybe Well, there are more men already probably or these are the second teams listen, well, I see when I got into Khimki 2, and then uh For example, we have Petya Gubanov there, he’s also He was in Samara with me now By the way, I also made it to the final four He's already filled the market He and he was with me in Samara and then he was with I was also in Khimkakto, that is, He left too. I mean, well, despite the fact that Khimki is Samara was there in There's a pretty good gang of guys in Khimki too. then they collected it. We played, we were there Igoryan Smygin was, well, listen, a lot There were people who played later. Here. And we are even, in my opinion, third there took a place in the Super League. Super League B was what it was called back then. Here so it was normal. Well, I am. I trained with the second one, I trained already with the first team at that time, because it just so happened that I came when to the training camp, or rather, when I arrived to sign contract in mid-summer. In the middle of summer, Sorry. Here It seemed that it was not worth many years. Yes. Here cool joke. What the hell are you talking about? Here is the team team, in short, the second team, which I had to play, she was already on gatherings on Ikul somewhere. Oh, Iskul, Yes. A and the first a and the first team she is this I haven't arrived there yet. Well, guys, The legionnaires haven't arrived yet. From Russians The guys there haven't all arrived yet. so-so-thin Veteran stadium, the crossies have started. I that's why I started with the first team. And then The coach took me with him to the first training camp and started connecting me straight to the first one team. I trained and played with the first one. for the second. I trained with the second one, sat at the bathhouse in the first one. That is how I am back and forth. Bench. We know that in the NBA all the first-year players, well, like, they're arranging some of these things there Nightmarish popcorn situations in cars there and so on. I don't know how It's called. Dedication. In Khimki was there anything like this? Well, that is, your elders chased you there. collect it, don't bring it. No, listen, well. when I, let's say, if I'm with the first the team was going somewhere, then, of course, there it was the duty of all young people to be there Doctors' bags arrived on the bus help, well, there are bags with medicine, with there are tapes there completely, completely, completely these physical education teachers have all these things rubber bands, some swords, something like that This, of course, was our responsibility help to report there. It's not even was discussed. Well, you were told about it. or did you understand it right away? It's just that uh, you yourself understood this and they could have told you about it hint. To hint, yes. Here. And in the IBA there is such a thing the story is cool, I didn't do anything, I I rolled it like a fool. Then you'll tell me when we get to NBA. Well, let's take Khimki anyway. How many seasons did you play for them? I signed this contract for 3 years, said. For three, I then re-signed. Listen, I don't know, well, four, probably five. I exactly in Chem. Four. I spent about 4 years there, Probably four, I don't know. And on the third, well, if that's how it works in mathematics, on the third, then this conversation itself with s yourself in the locker room you're talking about I told you, it happened somewhere on the third year. Yes. Yes. No, this is almost the first time year happened. Well, that's when I was there 19 or 20 years old. Yes. Further. And where did your agent appear? age? Well, how else? And what do you think, how is it? as a professional at plus or minus sixteen years old Should seventeen year olds be in this by now? Absolutely, absolutely must be. E because well, it's not for them They were kind of showing off that I have it agent. This is primarily for his own sake. protection, in his own interests. This Well, there is a certain path that everyone are taking place now. He's already everyone's agent. There is. We didn't have it there, I didn't have it agents then. And this It's hard to go there and try to prove something to the authorities that you are there not bad when you, well, they just can there crush with authority and everything. And, roughly Speaking of which, it's clear that at 16 there are 18 years old You're not worth millions of dollars there, right? but you can stand there, roughly speaking, there, I don’t know, 200-300,000 rubles, and for you will pay 75. Just because you won't have, well, you won't have anyone give, introduce, this, well, and this is one thing. Well, and in general, an agent, he is not only there he sorts out your contract, once a year comes, uh, You sign a contract with him and leave. For example, when I started with an agent to work, we organized a work there process, I flew to America train. That is, every summer I, When I was in Khimki, I Khimki season ended. Yes. I rested there for a bit, sat down in plane, flew for a month. Was this what he agreed on or was it this? did you use it? Of course, what could I do? agree. I only speak English Now I've learned to talk. Well, listen, he negotiated everything, organized the flight to America, workout. I didn't know you were flying like that. off-season. Yes, me and Pankrash, we flew in the off-season train. And this, in your opinion, parents can do to be agents or is it categorical? Ah, but Parents can be agents if they at least they can understand something about it. That is, let's say, a I would be there with all the love and respect to my father, well, I wouldn't want that My father was an agent. Well, because it is, eh, such a story, it's not like that The story is that you came and signed it. contract and that's it, the agent is in this in this basketball, he communicates with clubs, with representatives of clubs, with players, each with their own needs. This is necessary be. You can't just come and say, "I agent Mozgovo." Okay, if you're some kind of Luka Doncic or LeBron, you can even any, that is, it is clear there, that is the terms of the contract, they are yours which ones you said. Well, differently and, well, It's unlikely that they are there, well, they probably are They're talking about something there, and that's all they have there are also agents who work for them there They are talking about something, making agreements. A so, uh, to the guys, to everyone who, well, can't come there to say, does not have such authority, even gaming authority, roughly speaking, then, of course, an agent is definitely needed. He yours is leading your process in the season, looking there, if you're there, I don't know, by for some reason you have something going on with the coach there conflict, he doesn't let you play, okay. I had some like that too. I wanted to leave from Hee. Well, how I wanted to leave, I didn’t want to I wanted to leave Khimki, I wanted to play and not I played because the coach didn't let me play. Who was your competitor at that time? Was it strong? Ah, well, strong, of course, they were. Well, I mean, there was a Russian player or some kind of there were? Well, first Volkovitsky was there, Ruben, then Machi Lampy was there, there was Jero Moisen, there were a lot of guys there, who was there? They really were strong. But I'm not weaker there at the moment, I'm just was. there was something different from the style of play there, yes, let's say, my lamp is there, it's there He could have thrown a three-pointer, but somehow he got through it I was more mixed up inside there, that is, well, sort of, well, usefulness to the team, it seems to me, well, I'm definitely not worse at some point I became, but they still won't let you out, what that's not you They don't even give a couple of minutes, yeah, well, like at the end of the game, when everything is already decided, go, yes, go for it Srich, you know, like that's why the agent, of course, he should influence all of this. And then you run out of Khimki. AND what moment? And I read that he is an agent. Agent No, no, no. And there was a lockout there. The agent agreed, yes, that you moved to the NBA. You are - without a draft. No draft, Yes. How am I in the draft system? I understand, but a system without a draft is not Understand. Well listen, any person, who didn't get drafted may get in in MBA. It's just that when you're in the draft, your that is, the rights to you belong some team, Yes? You will now be selected by a team in the draft. You have it, that's what I'm talking about, you have it I was still on contract in Khimki. Yeah, right, we agreed and bought it. Yes. It's simple. Well, we negotiated for a long time, there were some big, specific problems. Again, I didn't interfere there at the moment, Of course, uh, when I'm in the moment, Well, it all happened in the summer off-season, I was already upset at that moment that none of this will happen, that yes, all this will not happen. Then no call, he says, We, well, put this puzzle together, that's it. We did it, I flew to v Las Vegas, eh, and signed the contract. Why Las Vegas? Then then summer the league was and the team was Summer League, coach The main one was there, everyone was there. I'm going there just flew in. And I flew there. AND It was so funny. It's me now uh I understand, they guys were in a hurry They wanted to sign it for me. They're like, well, I was afraid that my agent would tell someone else about me. there will be a push. Yes. Here. And we arrived, something we wake up, Let's go have breakfast with Max. They call: "Let's come now, let's go already "let's sign." Well, I have a different feeling about myself. represented. We were sitting there in this in this restaurant in the morning for breakfast. All, We signed the contract and celebrated in the evening. and that's all. And then, and then it happened, I then flew to New York. I after, yeah, well, yeah, I signed it there for 2 or 3 days. I was in Las Vegas. Yes. Yes. Well, just a little bit, just a little bit. Well, you know? What do I think? Yes. And such a trainer says: "Okay, that's it, come on, let's go. We have a club there today, we have beer." This Our assistant was Mike Dent, not the main one trainer. His Den Den his brother was assistant. And I come like this, and he's like: "Here, there's beer, here." And I like: "Well, it's somehow European We have basketball, we don't drink anything there, but we have a coach there, that's all this "Everyone there is at ease, everyone is in costume." Check type I... No, it's not even a test, I'm saying, well he says, he says like this: "Come on, look, this is not Europe, you say, At IBA you can drink it there without any problem, hang out, go for a walk. The main thing is that you are I'm ready to train at full strength tomorrow And and play so that it doesn't affect your result." Well, I'm such a Russian person, It's like everything is fine with me now, well, I signed and didn't believe it. Yes. This really just hits me right now says: "There's your contract or something there "The league does not accept it." Well, they have some kind of salary system. The stories are so funny. There's no league there accepts there in the contract they are like on You are owed $200,000 more. let the league sort of sweep them away. I'm a guest I'll sign what to do. So be it. No, I flew. Yes, yes, that's it. And I think so, I'm calling to this Max of his, I say: "Max, I have to sign something, well, I have to they'll slip me some piece of paper, "I'll sign." And were you the only one flying to America? Well, I already, Well, he stayed there. He I don't remember why it happened this way. There Max was with me in Las Vegas, but For some reason I ended up alone in New York. He says, "Yes, sign." Like us We checked everything. I say, "Okay, fine, signed." Well, there you go. Oh, by the way, look, I showed you how it is. Yes, I wanted it that way, I realized later, I think we've moved on from that. This is you How do you show the phone? Do you see? A How does your son show his phone? You know, 100% like this. Come on. And I don’t even know that it’s like that. Ask. I'll dial the numbers and take it. Yes, Yes, we still show it. Yes. Our children show such a tight fit. They don't know what it is. Seriously, I didn't even think about it. This is how we hang up. Well, here it is, a pipe. one zra. My son thinks it's haka. Well, like how football players show off. That is For him it's a completely different story. Like, I'm asking today I'll say: "Lyokha, show me how you "You're talking on the phone." Yes. Yes. He I'll show you my Airpods like this will deliver. Hello, Hello. Super. So you're going back to Moscow is inspired that you were signed The NBA is a bit like that and already has its shoulders spread And I'm coming back, so you understand, right away train for the national team. We are preparing for The World Championship was taking place in Turkey at the time. That is, well, there was nothing there at the time. I have a special need to get stronger right away work. Well, at that very moment Andrei Kirilenko I've already been there. And when I arrived, Do you have any advice or instructions? Of course, yes. Didn't say anything, Mozi. Just go, be yourself. Nothing there. Learn English. Yes. Learn English. It's true. It was necessary. You didn't speak at all at the moment signing? Didn't talk at all. Well, two words, It's clear that he could have tied some people there, but not talked. They translated everything for me. Hdu London is the Capital of Great Britain. And that's the whole story, yes. Bench, Are you already married at this point? By the way, I was not married. And then It was really funny when Mike Danton there, so to speak, before signing with me talked. He asks me such questions. He says: "Well, we'll like you, but, like, Do you have a wife? I'm like, "No." I looked like, "Like, upset like: "And the girl?" I say, "Well, Of course there is." He was like, "Well, she's with you'll get hit." I say, "Well, "Of course." Oh, well, everything's fine. Well, like, you know, you worry about that there, well, a lot of people start to show off, you know, there, especially in New York, there's a lot to do there. to the young man. That's why he's like, "Oh, okay, that's it. Excellent." That's how it is, yeah. And, well, I already I was with my wife then, we weren't married, but we were already living together then. And she said straight out without asking: "That's it, "We're flying to New York." Well, it wasn't that hard for her there She said without asking, I'm bigger than her presented with a fait accompli. And she, and she also speaks English, by the way, Probably didn't talk. No, she's at I am an excellent student at school. She speaks English talked, eh, not as good as it is now, but I talked, of course. Yes. That is, she was essentially your translator, a person who is always there. Well, we, well, besides training, No, well, of course she doesn't. Listen, well, we We've been married for 15 years now, and I'm already together I don't know how much it will be. By the way, I I invite you to the wedding. Oh, thank you. Oh, cool. We will now organize 15. We have there was no wedding. Our wedding is in I was in Las Vegas. Yes. Yes. I have the same like in the movies. Well, something like this. Ah, let's go sign. Well, that's not true. It was a little different. There I've told this story many times, I can tell you again if you're interested. But now the story We are interested. We are interested, Yes. And in short, well, the thing is that we We will play at a wedding. There you saw, How We will have a wedding. What I asked the audience is, like, interesting, huh? We are interested in the audience. So, in short, we will have a wedding, because we didn't have a wedding. I'm on at his wedding, he was wearing sportswear suit and that's how it turned out. We are this The first year, we are just in New York. A, Well, that's it, we just want to sign and that's it. We We are like me, I have a work visa, there green cards, nothing. Necessary a certain number of documents there collect it so that you can have it all later write. After they started there, hired a lawyer, with all this were busy, were busy, were busy. And now they were supposed to get married. E- Andryukha AK-47 Kirilenko is calling says: "Brain, what are you doing there? "What are you doing with Starbucks?" I say, "We even we don't know." Something like that. He says: "We in Las Vegas, like, fly in." I say to Alka: “Well, maybe we’ll fly there, maybe we'll get married." He says: "Well, "Let's fly." Well, that's it. How many do we have there? It was 5 days. We arrived, and I think there We'll get married just in time. And we landed well on the first day. As in the movies, where you come from and got married, it doesn't work like that now more. You must come and submit statement, only after 24 hours you will receive it take this piece of paper and you can do it with it go already sign, yes, so that it doesn't happen like this this blue theme, as it were. Yes. After like you get checked within 24 hours. Well, yeah, maybe not even that. They're checking to see if you got drunk there, well, there. really grains, yes, when drunk let's go, yes, and then there was some guy there footballer, he flew into Europe like that. That there is this ka Well and now it should be 24 hours pass. That means you'll be there in 24 hours. you get stupid, you come, like, no, I don’t Want. Well, you need to take this piece of paper. from some office there and then from come with this piece of paper. What do you want? Like u 24 hours have passed since you left. Here we have this piece of paper We did it, we had it. And we are there for 2 days we were hanging out here and there and on On the third day we started preparing for the wedding. Like they wanted some kind of, well, Andrey was there, There are some friends there. We thought, well some kind of small ceremony make it at least similar. There I am Alla bought a dress for herself, I took it with me. I took the suit. Here. And it just so happened that, uh, she I was supposed to fly, uh, to Moscow after this, uh, in order to, actually, do it documents so that she too would have the same my wife, so that she also has a work visa, so that she could be there, well, in America is legal and that's it, because it then I was on a tourist trip, I was on a work trip, and she is not my wife, she was tourist visa. Here. And it was Thursday. I'm just like I remember now. For some reason it was on Friday day off, then Saturday, Sunday, and We start driving, and we need this canned stuff ours says, says: "Well, so you like "No, well, they won't give you the documents right away." We're like, "What do you mean?" Well, like in within 10 days it will be sent to you by mail, It's like they take away passports there. No, no documents. We celebrated the fact that we were married. He he says: “No, we need it right away,” he says, something you somehow "Aa." And it's already lunchtime, and she's like, "Well, now I, wait, something there "ding-ding" he called and said: "Well, If we go now, we'll make it get married, then with these documents go uh to this office of some kind Las Vegas, big building, where is it then all this is given out, and there are some of my squabbles, or not, our friends will give it to you, but we need to have time "There, all this must be done by 5:00 pm." Time like 2:00 pm. I'm wearing a tracksuit, and so is my wife. We are in we have this one in this big kalak we were driving. Well, we went straight away, no We didn't have anything to choose from, we went straight to this one in It was called Little White Ch. She so famous in Las Vegas. There I am in Espresle got married. Well, in short, a lot people got married there. Well, that's it, we're going to fly somewhere. The batteries in the phones are dead. We have photos My wife literally has two photos on her phone. there were places where we took photos. And we have uh from There's a guy hanging out of the window. I still black with such long dreadlocks. Like, "What's up, guys?" Like you Ready to get married? We're like, "Yeah, yeah." Well, we're kind of serious about it. He there's something accelerating there. Well, this is Las Vegas. And we were like, "Yeah, yeah, he signed everything." Well, we went out and took a photo. And these too BlackBrit, remember those? were? We took a photo on the last battery and then We received the documents immediately after the documents and we managed to do everything. Cool. And that's why we have a kind of wedding We didn't play any. My wedding is very easy to remember. I get it in Andrey Gennadievich's birthday Kirillenko. It happened in one day. And the one in Las Vegas, Yes? It's cool that I understood it. In general, yes. That is, you then have another day until then Well, then they let us in, yes, together. Here This is what my wedding was like. AND, Of course, we haven't played yet. ceremonies. There was no beautiful bride there in a dress. I look handsome there. Well already, Of course, I'm handsome already. OK, Beautiful. Here. Uh, that's why, yes, it's like that. We had a wedding. Bench. Cool. Let's come back here. Well, you're ordinary. a guy who is from St. Petersburg went to Adeigiya and then came back in St. Petersburg, trained all his life. Not suddenly you find yourself in New York. A different measure altogether. You are a professional player. Around you now, I don’t know, dozens of people who help you there with sneakers, with a massage, they look for your physical condition, for nutrition, I don’t know, and so on. Around you reporters, here reporters, skyscrapers, and so on. Nostalgia. No, don't stop talking. Keep talking. Yes, I'll listen. This is, well, somehow, firstly, as far as it might or might not knock down the tower, but, secondly, uh, well, in general, what kind of impressions, Well, listen, to demolish or to tear down, no to demolish, this is already, probably, probably, to To society, yes, the question is not for me. I I can say whatever I want there. I I can say that everyone is a fool, but I smart. Here. And let this be society. Well Who condemns us? Yes. Grannies on the benches. Well, that's probably it. let them New York grannies. the prostitute went. That's why I don't know, I don't think it was blown away. Here I have friends, well, not friends, but acquaintances, who at the moment said that it was blown away, although I don't understand why there are such conclusions. Here. Well, great, listen. Well, that's it. And what's your impression? What do you live on? Now? I didn't, I couldn't. We lived at We had a high floor, well, we lived not in New York itself. That is the team Well, the team's base is a little higher up there, from New York, from Manhattan, straight on the very top. Yes. We lived in White Ples, a place like this. It's called. There it's literally, well, 30-40 minutes to the city. That is, we are going to the games we drove, it takes you 30-40 minutes to get there, because the training base is there and there such a quiet little town. You are there you live. Everything is great. One-story America, huh? Well, not quite. No, we lived there, with us There was a large Ritz, two skyscrapers. In one hotel, in another apartment There is a pool in the middle. I have a wife there. I went and swam there every day that's it. I have it there with us floor-to-ceiling windows glass present floor-to-ceiling windows. You I'm telling you about this to him. Do you live in floor-to-ceiling windows. Are you kidding me or something? battery in the apartment, understand? You have a TV You have a TV The TV is visible on the wall. You have windows in floor, bro. What are you talking about? Are you kidding me? You You live high. No. And you naturally have a tower. Yeah. You had a built-in one at that time. microwave. Well, that's not it, you know. just like that. Of course not, well it's cool It was all like this. And, well, I have in general a lot of things happened that year, well, in in terms of emotions, there is also the first NBA team, and there is the same language, and Well, that's where my wife and I got married, and I really don't care about everything Do you remember your press conference? the first one, well, after signing or something else somehow, like you know, right now you just look at something there signs a Russian rookie in the HL or somewhere there or the same Demin, he already spoke English. Well, that's right. first interview, did you have anything? Okay, not a press conference, but after after camp or after the game, that's when you You're sitting in the locker room and they're shoving it at you all these microphones. Listen, how can I remember, if I don’t they spoke Elvish, if for They spoke to me in Elvish, I well didn't speak English. I literally there I don't know, I need a translator for you they presented it and you talk through it. Max went there with me. Well listen, I understood something, I answered something, but in Overall it was broken English. Well, by the way, to be honest, you are my the first one to ask such a question, because that I don't remember any of my first press conferences. It's as if it was her Well, I came to the summer league, signed and was like, well, like when you're with You come to the draft, when New York took him Porzinges in the draft, you remember there this scandal, who is this clone that came from Ameri from Latvia. Latvia, Latvia. from Latvia, like, who knows what for some strange white guy there. Then, well, this is such a reaction, It's clear. And what about me? Well, we signed it. some guy there, not me the main one, well, they just signed him into the team some kind of workhorse. Well, the interest is not that great at all. I and therefore I I say, I don't even remember any press conferences, honestly. Maybe there was she, I don't know how Fridzon didn't give these magnificent. No, like Vitaly Valerievich, there are no magnificent ones. I don't give interviews. Nataliy Valerievich, I don't know, but the club gave you a car. or or like they gave you a contract and you are you busy? When you come here, there Well, I haven't played in Europe, but in In Russia, when foreigners come, they either a car or Well, better a car with driver, less problems. So, Well, you don't know the city there and so on. You don't know the city, you're not right there I had an accident, no one will deal with it doesn't want to. Here you have a car with a driver, He drives you there from 8 to 8. Uh, Do you want me to drive you until eleven? Well, pay him a bonus there, roughly speaking, from above and that's it. Apartments, salaries, apartments, cars, everything is provided here. Here They don't give you anything there. They tell you: "Okay, we can do this for you." There are from realtor team, who is with the team it works, it can, well, help you find This house is for living. Here is your agent, he is let him handle your shopping there cars. re, well, with the arrangement of everything. But when you're already on the team, let's say, Yes, you're in New York already, yes, and you are exchanged to Denver, like me changed, they say: "There, at your place tomorrow's plane, at such and such a time, so much so, you're flying to another city play, you just pack some of your own suitcases, well, there are 2-3 suitcases of things there, Yes, and the rest is the team that you exchanges for himself, pays for yours moving completely. The company arrives, who collects your things. We have it then There were a few other things. We, well, aren't there yet. we didn't have time to make money then, but later on end, there, by the tenth year he is there it's just that, well, it's constantly gathering, is going to. And here she comes, transporting yours cars, transports your things, she does all this unpacks, packs, and that's it already pays for flights for you and your family, and the team that picks you up. Here. A At first, no, there was nothing. You are everything myself, all by myself. Do you remember your first outing? under the roof of Squaregarden? Honestly, No. Well, that's it then. Honestly, I don't understand. Well, I'm saying, I felt like I had so many emotions, I'm really all over it got viral in my head. Sometimes I even I can't, uh, unfortunately, it's clearly there temporary there on the timeline put when what happened somewhere it's all mixed up somewhere nearby Just. That's why I don't remember. I remember this The first games we went to, I think, Paris play exhibition. This is me I remember. Before the season I remember how I was We were just playing the World Championship. Yes. We had a visa there, well, Schengen. Here. And I am with her, with this visa, at ease. I flew to Paris and played those games there. We fly to America, it happens there month, we fly to Canada, I land, and they won't let me in. The whole team is leaving for this one is in the hotel, and I, well, I Russian passport, no visa, nothing. There, when you have a green card, then you are being put down. I say: "And how did you all get ready?" I say? And we have this one the team administrator, he runs around with juicy eyes, he says: "And how are you in Europe in summer? I had a visa, as if I had a team for me I got a visa there, and it was just a working one, We flew with the national team." So what? I sat there for 2 hours at the airport, they Somehow, somehow, they gave me a visa, that's it, I I went to the hotel, but then I already had a visa. All. You come to Denver, for you after New York it seems like this? Here is the first one visually it is, listen, well, downtown, some skyscrapers, and all around it is one-story. Well, not a one-story one, Well, yes, there are private houses everywhere there, Listen, I flew there to play. there, I roughly saw what to expect there. Well, we just arrived there were no strangers, no one was there then there are the spouses, relatives, It turns out that people live in Denre, well, far away, Well, some friends live there. Our guys are here now good friends for you. Well, like everywhere else. Here. Listen, let's talk about ours. There's plenty of New York crowd for you everywhere was very different from the Denver crowd or No? Where do people get sick better? There or there? There or there? M in the Big Apple or Well, it seems to me, True fans, I guess, after all more in Denver than in New York, because in New York, well, what's it like there? there is a certain one, probably, like Real Madrid, you know, in a T-shirt. Well, like go, yeah, Yes, but there is a certain base there. fan, yes, there is something specific there the number of people who actually It's not just about going to a basketball game, but He really is for the team, yes, they're drowning. And many people are simply very New York, they, well, someone comes there tourists, going to a basketball game, uh, there Many different companies are buying out places I'll erase those there too, well, that is, like these Here. And it's like Denver is more straight forward. It's exactly these kind of true fans, there is a large part. And in New York how like, well, half of the fans. But Madison big, it's not 5,000, there's 20,000. Not just half of some, well, I don't know the guys who came there, from Russia just for a few days America is like, damn, bah, I need to go Definitely, like, it's a must. That is There's a lot of that in New York. Well, listen, This is one of the most touristy ones. cities, therefore, Well, people don't go to Denver and people don't go in Klivlyan, like just to have a look. Well, rarely any. I'm going to Cleveland, I'll take a look. Well, by the way, there is a rock roll museum in Cleveland. Very cool place. We'll know, We will know. I wanted to ask about fans. I've always been curious, Why is it that in the NBA there is no such topic as away fans. But they don't drive. teams Ultras, Yes? Ultras. There are no ultras. Why? This Well, that's the point, right? cool. You also travel. People just don't want to or Bro, just imagine you play 82 games, 41 of them are on your way out. You even And the money was hurting, you even had to take it, You must work more. So football teams also have 40. Once every 2 weeks you go out, Can you imagine, you can do four? change four cities in a week, or even five, Just imagine. And the team still has nothing to explain to me. explanation. Look, you're a fan, and I'm a player. Yes. I have a game tomorrow. Yes. Yes. I played today I trained, landed the plane that I I'm right here without security, without inspection got on the plane and flew. Landed. On I was met by a bus at the gangway and I went to hotel. What should you do? Buy a ticket with your own money, book a hotel, go to airport. There are 2 hours to stand in this queues, something back and forth, then fly in myself, pick up Ba, wait, pick up luggage. All. Next one next day. The next day I wake up, I'm training and going to the game. And you're going on game, yes, roughly speaking, on mine. I'm after I get on the bus and off the bus right away. I board the plane from gangway to gangway and fly to The city is 3 hours away, I don't know, from Novolyan to New York. I'm going to bed. After the game you go to hotel because it's already so late the planes don't fly. The next day you I have to look for this ticket, this plane, fly to New York for me, land, go to the game. Look, after the game, after the second one, for two, here we have two days games, I get on the plane right after games and I'm flying to Miami. I'm landing from Miami, and what about you? are you doing? You're looking for a hotel again where spend the night? And you must have five cities change in a week or four. Give it to me I'll explain what I wanted to say. Well, you don't have to go to all 40 games. on departure. I'm talking specifically about the culture of rooting, Like, why can't you do it at 10? go to the games, there's a fan stand there some. Because you always look basketball match. Well, if you take any You watch a basketball game and it's always there It's just that everyone is local just don't react. No, I'll explain it to you now. There are some teams, uh, look, I'm not talking to you. I don't want to at all with you. Let's. Here you are not answering, but you You're provoking me. Now we have a ball. Now we are with him emission. Here I lured you out. Look, uh. there are teams like Boston, New York, Los Angeles, uh, which In general, the fan base is all over America. That is America is a little different, society It's arranged a little differently. Here's how it is with us you here, uh, It's become so popular now, everyone goes there. to Moscow, to big cities. Before like was? I was born somewhere in St. Petersburg, that's it. You found a job there, so you work there. There Otherwise, where they give you work, go there you're going. That is, this is cardinal there is only one difference there the only thing that distinguishes a Russian from American, it's that they are just one they go to live where they have work, and The latter look for work where they live. Yes. Here. And when you arrive there with Leger play, just in any city you arrive, and you're some kind of Sacramento When you arrive, you'll simply have more there. people are rooting for Lakes than for Sacraments. Well, that's how it works. You are in any city you arrive, you have it there It's still in the picture. In the picture it's not noticeable that there is some kind of tribune, which Well, well, there is no separate tribune, it’s just They are, well, diluted. But they are there fans, of course. Certainly. Well, that's clear, what kind of, ah, I don’t know, Detroit, well, they don't have that big there, there aren't that many of them in America scattered, well, the Detroit guys, which is why fewer of them come there to get sick. Well, people, when here you are, I was born in Petersburg, yes, let's say, in Leningrad, Well, imagine I was an ordinary person there. hard worker and would be a Zenit fan. Well, I went to live there in Yekaterinburg. Here I have been living in Yekaterinburg for 10 years. He's arriving. "Zenith". "Of course, I'm going to support Zenit, not for Yekaterinburg. And it is also arranged in America. Well, I just asked for another reason, because that it wasn't 6 years ago that I read an article by Philadelphia, appeared right here ultras. People got organized there ultras, and they went on away trips. When did you read this? It doesn't matter anymore. This I just don't know. I am like this, I am not like this sign for the process when they collected A great A. I was reading something, Yes? Can you read? This is already on many levels. I know a lot of letters. And when is the album, by the way, You read, right? When is the album album? papapada? I don't notice just any noise, window open. Bench. Before we move on, perhaps, one of the main milestones in your life when you're already in Cleveland, Uh, I would like to know the most a positive memorable moment in Denver and the most negative. the most positive. In terms of what? Games. Games. Games. Well, first of all, Certainly. And in terms of the game, in terms of the game. A, Well, here's the most important point a smile you can remember from basketball and the most unpleasant from Denver. I I just wanted to ask one question, but suddenly you say it yourself. Bur, I don't even know. If you're talking about exchange, Not about Dank, Yes. A, A I understand. No, well, I don’t. It’s true, it’s us. we're talking. That's why I asked. The most positive or the most? Yes. No, you know, at first, Of course, it hit me very hard in the negative direction, but now I just like No, I just remember how you started. call brains. Mozgov. Well, it was It's unpleasant, of course, but what can you do? Eh, you set me up. No, well it's a game. It's in this, well, on my opinion, as I understand it, is that hits hits, hits the plane that was doing it's through everyone in this yeah, well, so It worked, listen, well, it's unpleasant it was, but I just, you know, it's not some point there, I don't know, ended my career or something. To me, Well, it's kind of unpleasant, but, listen, uh maybe not as epic, yes, but still Listen, every 2-3 weeks in ba epic an epic dunk is happening, yeah. Well, here I am Got into this highlights, there are 100 best ones there dankov in history. In history Well, let's go back to the plus sign then, if it's still a plus or minus of some kind. Yes, reached the maximum, yeah, with Denver, well, the first round We lost the playoffs, yes, we lost to Leckers lost the first round one year, in another year they lost to Oklahoma. Well, in Oklahoma has KDI, Harden, Westbrook then everyone was there, yes, then How many steps are there in Los Angeles? And in Los Angeles had Gasol, Baym and Kob they played then. We lost to them. Phew. What kind of team is this, I say? There Just what team do you come out with? He plays with Baynom and Gasol, you just You don't understand who is the fourth one, who is fifth? Both of them are there, one throws, the other tramples, another one comes there too with your hands there. Yes. His hands are like taps. I didn't send it. The biggest, the largest number don't you remember your glasses, the best one? game, maybe Ah, well look, I have two records. I'm showing off a little now Here. Well, Here you go, as far as possible. Well, yes, I have one record, one season in Denver. Ah, by the maximum number of rebounds for one game per season. That is, not the average number of rebounds, and for one 29. I made it in Denre, Yes, we played Golden State in Denver. And my second record you don't remember, sorry, now lock in. 29 is more like it offensive or defensive rebounds? Well, like half and half or something, right? Like there are 16, 19, 16 and how much is left? 13 14. This one, ah, is my second record, we, unfortunately, the second, that is, the first We even won this game. Yes. And we lost the second game in the final, but I also hold the record. A the highest number of points scored in the finals for an undrafted player. Well, 28. And this, by the way, this is the final match, Yes? This match is one of the final matches. Oh, with records. No, come on, Sanya, you're Sanechka, Well, I guess there were also 29 rebounds. Go get it in one game, I think. Well, yeah, listen. Well, more is needed there. just spend time there. Well, we have then there, when Kevin Love was there for one year was, he generally wasn't there every game I could get 20 there. Well that's it Unfortunately, I don't have such a talent possessed. Well, lav is below you, right? There lower, right? Lower down 24. Well no, higher. 28, probably. Love too strong ty. Yes, he is strong. From a three-ruble note there is something like this. Well, now everything is ending too. His years are NBA. He's already setting up a stake there. veterans there. I would also like to sit in the bathhouse. veteran. Okay, I'll play some more. Now. Where to what? To the final four, brother. No, well, there, yes. But I thought you You can go somewhere, you want to return to the profession. Where are you going with this joke? I need to it will be a year from morning to evening train to get into some sort of shape gain more or less. And I'm already 40. And in Cleveland, when You were exchanged, exactly the same call was or was it a little different there? Well I was sitting in the morning, we had a game evening. Yes. I woke up and was getting ready to leave training, well, well, well, on throws on morning. The agent called me and said, "So, well, there's something there that probably doesn't bother you will change. Everything is about to be decided there." I speak: "Did you know where?" Or is it him? Well, yes, he became like Clearance. There now It's being decided there now, but most likely already Dildan Dan, you will go like this. Well, I think, Okay, whatever it is, well, it has to be done anyway Well, I have to go anyway to the game there. No, then he calls, through The team manager calls in a couple of minutes Chief Tim Connolly. He was so cool. Govo. Well, we'll see you there today, soon. That's all, you'll already leave. I say, "So what? me?" He says: "Yes, don't even come, like on." I say: "Listen, well, give it At least I'll come. Well, maybe I do, well. I haven't learned anything yet. Let me At least I'll come, bye to all the guys there I'll tell you. Well, in the morning says: "No need "Things from the locker room for yes, send everything." I say: “Well, I’ll at least drop by the game, no need, "Come on." He says: "Yes, yes." This is how I say: "Come on, I say." Well, he says, let's just in front of we'll sit there and play, like, sit, let's have a bite. Well, that's it, I'm their game there. was. All. You told him: "No need." No, we just got together there and sat around. We ate it crosswise. Wings, By the way, we ate. So he moved to Cleveland. That's all. And I Well, yes, only I am in I haven't been to Cleveland for two weeks. I Me traded to Cleveland and I was in my first game Klivende arrived in 2 weeks. Why? So the guys went to the big one? West tour? It turns out, Golden State, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Sacramento. And did you do all this Renchu? And I just take two huge bags with candles and I'm flying to San Francisco. I'm flying to San Francisco, passing by there is a medical media review and immediately on game. And I've been traveling with the team for 2 weeks and only then will I fly to Klin. Mtatu? Yes, I want you to read the quote. Yes, I do. in general this my quote. No, If I were Timat, I'd get a tattoo. would be from this quote. Yes, This is funny. One day I was talking to my a friend about how good a big player is, when it's really big. You You know, Chris Bosh is good, big, Kevin Love is good, big, but I'm talking about a real seven-foot guy. Maybe, He is the best player I have ever played with. on the same team since Ilgauhusk. How Yugalska as Ilgal Kuskoska, In my opinion, the first civil defense during the Lithuanian era. LeBron, LeBron James. Well, great, nice. And when he said, you do this Well, in that moment I didn't know. I'll have to do all this later they said. Yes, of course, where could I? know. No, I didn't know. Well, yeah, listen, well, I just came there, started playing. Nothing there. Well, actually, I really do I fit right in, well, the coach was David Blood, it's absolutely clear to me Human. He absolutely understood who he was. Do you think that's why? Well, listen to the horse, he, he, well did LeBron have anything to do with it or No, but I know for sure that a year before this there They took bronze, David Blood was already three, Yes. But even a year before that or one and a half, this is the story there, which is not the trade that took place in Miami was, when LeBron was there too, and Bosh and Wait. They wanted it too. Later, when they won, what in the end, when from Denver e waved Anderson and his took to Miami and they won the nut, and I was just boiling wildly because I They didn't let me go from Denver to Miami then. In general, I was boiling wildly then. Here so maybe LeBron too somehow I wanted to myself, I don’t know how it works there was, but when I came to the team, there was David Blood, and he knew exactly who he was exchanges. He knew exactly what I could do do what I can't do as best I can do. I really, well, right from I joined the team after the first game, as if I had been playing there for, well, a really long time already. Better than Denver. IN Well, what's better than Dan in terms of infusion? to the team? Easier than disgusting It was easier to communicate, to find a common language with team. Well, in Denver, when I I ended up in Denver, it was pretty tough. I didn't play much there and there with the coach I had some minor disagreements there. Then in In the end, he didn't exchange me. Anyway in Miami I was very angry with him because this, that he came to me and [ __ ] in my ears, I apologize for the expression, told me how handsome I was, how great I was, and It's good that we'll sit down now, Let's talk, we'll decide everything, and then you, Well, we didn't exchange you. Well, I'm sorry, you wanted to play? I say, "I wanted, I say, play, so that it’s as if I I once told you differently." He says: "Well, yeah, well, well, okay, later "Let's talk." I say, "We'll talk later." In general, well, yes, I had some there, well, no it's a direct conflict, yes, but, in general, That's why I joined the team quickly. AND he really played well there, and I was in good shape. AND, Well, it's possible that the peak is there, and Jar is there too. another one came, and Man Shamper came in team, and all three of us are practically there as soon as we joined this team. Well, really right away. Although sometimes you sit and think about it, when about Jara starts talking, anyone can talk the team could, well, it's kind of about him there There are a lot of stories going around that he is there and this and that fifth, and tenth. Well, everything is normal, type type. This is the peak of your fitness career. I don't know. Well, yes, yes, probably, just like that, if only I was in such physical shape now, It's just that I'm running wild, I I ran at all, didn't get tired, didn't get out of breath. I ran, I jumped, I Well, well, I Yes, Certainly. It's just that the body has come to terms with it. or did you prepare for this somehow? on purpose or just like that No, it's just the amount of training, amount of playing time. It's just that the body itself is like that. peak in combat condition. Yes. Yes. And then, you know, when you're in season You've been playing for so long, with the playoffs, there with all sorts of finals, back and forth, and You're just there, roughly speaking, there 9 I spent almost months in basketball without rest. And so the next day, when you wake up, when everything It's over, you just don't understand. Well, that is, let's say, in the season you have day off, You understand perfectly well what's wrong with this to do on weekends. And when you wake up just on the next morning after the season there even without the playoff is like, "Damn, What should I do? Yes, that's the feeling, like, what should I do this all summer now? I've been there for two months, well, what's up with that? national team or something. But still you like, "Damn, What should I do? There is no team, so we can't go there. necessary. The team will gather only there, give God, years next this end of summer. Us Ilya Kovalchuk spoke interestingly about The NHL, they don't have anything, they don't come. in advance to the team, they do not train, are not prepared. You must come. already ready for the first ones. Well, yes, the fees are just fees, like here in Europe. Here we have, I know the fees, when you You arrive in 2 months, first you'll be there in the Ugu mountains. then in the suburbs. Well, roughly speaking, yes, there you are You train a lot, a lot, physical training, then then basketball comes into play. No, There is no such thing there. There really is there the main people, he tries to come already in at least some form. There is a lot of just if you don't do it, you won't be late in the league. I mean, well, you just, if you don’t ready, well, goodbye. There will be one a person who, in short, a professional, Yes, which will be ready. Here you are. Yes, Indeed, I was lucky in this regard. I came back there every time with national team and was always, well, already in shape there. Here. AND, eh, now, eh, clubs like it when people they still want you to come earlier. They can't you, that is, according to the league rules, but they can't do it there a certain training process start with a team before the start, when everyone can do it. Let's say, there, I don't know, 2 weeks before the first games. Here is the official one and from the next day you can be there to train, roughly speaking, but teams can come to the club's location and they they can throw there one on one, there, I don't know, the coaches serve the balls. Here you go such skillful work, but as a team Team, you have no right to do anything. do. That is, in I mean, they're watching this and they can do something fine. No, listen, uh, well, he's watching, no. are watching. You know how it is any scandal, it comes out like this surface. Someone somewhere is leaking Tom camera look how Draymond hit this dude tre. Well, it seems like it should have been. stay, but it turned out to be. No, well. Listen, there are cameras everywhere. Any The training process is recorded. Any. Cameras in the hall operate 24x7. Well then You also have access to the gym 24/7. practically. You can come there at night throw away. No, well now even cameras allow it What is the connection with this and now it reads all of this It's somehow thrown out. I don't know how it is arranged technically. technically, listen, well, nobody, why? Should someone risk doing this? You Well, in general, why do you need a team like for two, well, no one will come for, well for It's such a time that they bring in young people, they're there They've already been training there for 2 weeks, they work. Those who are veterans, they, of course, they're already arriving again, do you have children or not. If you have children, you're there earlier you'll come because you have a school year it doesn't start on September 1st there, but maybe I don't know, it will start on August 5th. And at someone in another state there with 15 August, that is, they arrive under academic year. Well, we'll be there, well, the children were brought early and everything was already there, Well, what are you going to do? Well, of course you will. go to the gym, train. If you don't have children, well, of course, you sit there. at mom's house, you eat there tips, then you arrive. There's one like this story. But yes, that is true. All, all they arrive more or less ready. Well, you never go there in the summer, well, on did not stay in America during the off-season. You always flew away. I was one summer, uh, when I didn't go to the national team, I just trained Summer in Las Vegas. All summer long. There I stayed for a month and a half and just trained in Las Vegas. Bench. What do you think, if we go back to those the most memorable seven games against Golden State? Here This game is when you score 28. Yes. Well, it was some special day or we don't know what's in front of us pre-game training and Blood is coming to you comes up and says: "So, today we have We load the load onto you in a helmet and didn't just do the same thing. Well "This is what happened." M, How were you yesterday? For those who don't know, we played Counter yesterday. Strike. Here. No, well, it just went off. I kept scoring and found myself in the right place at the right time time. Well, I did the same thing as before. Always. Here you go. Maybe you should ask They somehow changed something in the defense. I Nothing has changed for me. Well, Listen, this is a cool record. Well, well, we lost the game, and then and the finale. So no matter how it is which did not lead to anything. Well, at least I can. to say that I have a record. Here. Well, nevertheless, it’s just itself the significance of this day, yes or no? How would no significance significance. Well, and We just lost the game. And the trainer came to me came up, eh, after the game and This guy looks at me and says, "I love you." I understand perfectly." I say: "Before, I say: "Coach, this is such a game," I say, It's already a shame for my career to lose." He says: "Hold on." Like, everything's fine. I I say: "Thank you." But this is when you still have you you get to the top, This Oh, these are tears of joy. No, first the tears of defeat. We are the same We lost the first final there, of course everyone was crying and stuff too, well, Well, like you the next day, not on the next day is like in some time LeBron or someone else brought you together. You you just walk and think, you have thoughts such that Crap there may not be a second opportunity Damn, dude, you worked so hard, I put so much effort into this. Well indeed, there, well, I spent time in the team time, there he sacrificed both his family and there, Well, you just put everything on it, these, uh, and you know when it's the last minute for you like when a child's toy is taken away, and you you think: "Damn, what else? Well, here it is What more can be done?" Well, you yourself I asked myself: "What else can I do, so that this doesn't happen next time "What happened?" And you sit there and think, "Damn, well, I kind of I gave everything so that what I had, I gave everything did it there. Well, it's better to play a game there, but I, let's say, can't do it there, it's rude saying, there, yes, it's better to play the game." You you're just saying that, that's what I mean I could do it, I did everything. And you know, that the guys on the team also did everything and this is missing. And you just walk around for the first week thinking: "What else do I need to do? This is what else I need to do. could do? What are we teams for anyway? What more?" Well, you just understand that well Nothing. Well, you just turned out to be a little weaker. But we are out of luck, let's speak frankly. We lost Curry. Kevin Love also broke a cup. So I would tell you We are 100% And it was in that final that J threw a three and famous meme. This is not true, this is already the third one, this is different. Here. And here we are We lost the first final. We played without Kari and without Kevinal. Well, consider it, Yes, two main ones. And still two games took away. Here. And of course we would 100% We would have beaten them if we had them. We played very well. Very good. On the next year when we won, in The team had more problems. Team played harder. Indeed, that is for the team to win was, well, in general it was a feat for everyone that we came back like from 3:1 and on And also in the team had a feat because the team I'm not really that confident about the season I was going and there were problems. That is, when we We played the first final, there were problems, well, these are, you know, like, well, here are the injuries They flew out, and two players, we need to somehow replace. And somehow the second season, well, the team is still here and somehow I encountered problems this season. That, there is some misunderstanding here, it's difficult here It's going, it seems like they should be playing. Team remained the same as last year. She also does not run, also does not play. AND This is all very difficult for the team. It was worrying. And that's why she still is much more valuable to us because we they were able to overcome all this and through this, you know, well, load, when you have It doesn't work when you can't do it, that's all equally go out and do it. This is it indeed, that is really very significant. I think you have this very often asking questions about LeBron constantly, but I still want to ask a question about one of my favorites players, about Kyrie Irving. Here he is life, well, I'm really a fan of the flat earth. Just a little bit of this or or well, like in normal life a normal guy who loves very much Baku. No, not an ordinary normal guy. I listen, well, while he was in Klimenda, he didn't have these pens there with these feathered ones there, these Indians there Native Americans, that's what they are, Indians. Inde Hindus. Well, I am Indian, yes. It's as if then he got it, I don’t know. And again Well, I don't really, well, I can understand, how, uh, how real is this? his position or he just dispersed it. Yes. But he, it seems to me, could have to disperse, like to throw in, to bump up with everyone. Maybe so. I don't This is the best dribbling you'll ever do. Have you ever observed it or not? Well, after me, Yes, I understand. No, of course, yes, there, well, some Unreal skill, very cool dribbling, Yes. Well, you are, well, I don’t know, the national team in Euro with Europeans, you played there in the NBA Maybe someone caught his dribbling really really cool. There's just no ball there. there is no way to take it away at all. Well no way after Ana Averson, probably. You're just doing it out of curiosity. see how much the ball says He could just get the ball out of his sight. Well Yes, yes, I need to watch this one, I don't think ever. This is really necessary just look guidance, what He has possession of the ball there, well, just some kind of, well, really really cool, Yes. Well, actually, Stefakari has it too. not bad. Like this. Let's have him there too, Well, you can't take the ball away from him either. It it's just, you know, smoother, more, well, not so pronounced, you know, like Kari because he has sharp ones jerky changes of direction. Karik Steph he's more like this, and this one just jerks back and forth. Yes. I wanted to ask who is for the atmosphere He was the most like that in the locker room. Yes, a little bit of everything, a little bit of everything. A little bit of everything. There was no real main thing there is a sailor in the atmosphere. And who turns on the music for you? Well, the guys were always listening to something of their own. I can't listen to this. It was hard for me in this regard. Well, rap, music, I like it you don't love. Well, it’s not that I don’t like it, but I, listen, well there is ours, yes, but I don’t see the foreign one Understand. I'm half there about these tits asses, diamonds. Well, it's not mine. story. I don't really like this kind of thing. I don't know, it's just harder with someone in paint there was a lot of pushing going on all this time. Shacom Howard and Bynom. Howard and Bynom, Yes. Well then it's like first, second, third. Well, yes, you could say that, yes. And straight In general, all the monsters are healthy, everything is straight. Howard is the boss. in general Dwight, who some kind policeman is like that looks like his haytaur. Good cop. Now you remembered, of course. No, well, he looks similar. I was playing just now Boston, now playing in the Which? I don't understand something. A I don't understand what Horward you're talking about. I don't understand either. Is Howard his last name? No. Whose? Not Howard. Tim said Howard and immediately Come on Howard, come on. I was playing in Boston now, now I've gone to San Fran. Playing in San Francisco now center. Center. What is his last name? Not Howard. Not Howard. There is no such thing. Uh, write to comments about whom Lebanon is talking about. Well, I played number five now in Boston. Three seasons. Horford, thank you. Well, he's not worth pushing around with. no problem. No, he rushes. With him It's hard that he threw it now. He became slower. There to push with him not a problem at all. Tost there This is not about pushing a person at all. That is, he has a different style of play. And Shaka and now they have Howard, well, physically. Oh, by the way, you got there at that moment, when the league started to change, when the emphasis shifted from the big ones to these three-pointers endless, Yes. In general, how did this react to it's that they haven't played that hard on you down there, in the paint, Yes? Well, listen, I still found myself in the league at the time. That is, I did it there. certain, well, that is, look, someone still has to defend themselves was. I'll tell you this, there's, well, protection - requires a lot of attention there in America. She, well, I mean, there are some guys there, they just They don't want to and, well, they don't know how to defend themselves. I mean, well, it's really there, you when you start playing, if you watch straight, well, from the point of view of analysis, well, like a parsing, yes, some kind of, yes, you you just realize that some people, they just, well, do nothing. Well, How they serve out their defense number, roughly speaking. Well, it's clear that they are defending themselves. they work, but really there Very few people are defending themselves. Me me It seems that I am still in this regard, uh I didn't slack off, I really defended myself and I found myself. That is, on the site, even when everyone was throwing threes there, I still there, well, it was useful, yes, it was enough. Well and the plus, probably, is still just like this, when I was there, everything was starting, and right Everything had already passed, probably, when I left. That is, the last ones there 3-4 years ago, I haven’t been there for that long. Yes. Did we talk about the championship? I would like to talk about the national team, but before we move on to the national team, such Here is the question. It's clear that after Cleveland there was Los Angeles, after Los Angeles There was Brooklyn, after Brooklyn there was Orlando. Orlan. Yes. Well, it's clear that it's like you, you have there were injuries, physical condition and so on. Here If you roll back, you would already be exchanged. It was no longer your choice. I That's what I understand. Los Angeles was yours choice, and then you were exchanged. Yes. If we roll back to the Cleveland moment Los Angeles, you would become something change? I realized that this was a big contract. And so it would be I didn't have the operation. I wouldn't have the operation. Well, yeah, well, I would just know what's there. happens in advance and is done differently would. I would have the first operation, then the second and the third. First, second, Yes, and then the fourth one is obtained. I've already lost track of these operations. knee. I wouldn't do the first one and that's all it was different. Yes. Here. This is what I definitely want to change. Let's play a quick game together. I We'll throw you three-pointers. You three You will call me by name, three surnames. Three best NBA players of all time. Uh, LeBron, uh, Jordan. Ah, LeBron Jordan and I'll leave two. Can I have two? To the surface. Well, I... Well, listen, who do I think you are? Yes, we do. we don't say who everyone thinks we are Let's say who I'm counting. Well, I would give it. Oh. LeBron Jordan. I'll take Shakilanil, because he is the most dominant. Mon, Certainly. That is, we speak about who we want speak. Yes, yes. Yes. OK. Not about the one everyone wants hear. I would like to hear it. N three best NBA basketball player from Russia. A Kirilenko, Mozgov, and Shved. But again we still don't really understand how in the end, how will the performance end? Egor. I would really like it if he took, even if my place was completely taken with pleasure. I'll be happy for him. The three best players of the VTB United League. Well, at this moment, for the whole history, yes. Khryapa, Pancrash. Oh, good. A You're a [ __ ] braggart, Well, I would, I would, I would, probably, to Vitaly Still, I singled out Varelevich. Here. Although he is Swedish, he is a Swede in MBA, so he enough. Three of the coolest teams in terms of atmosphere in your career. And the Russian team A Khimki early creativity of my And Kleblint. Cool. The three most unyielding basketball player. Unyielding, Yes. And for Zapachuliya? I honestly don't know. This is some very complex category. Well, listen, he's unyielding, he's just passes by, and you, well, and nothing you can do it. This is, well, these are not concessions, this is something else, this is dominance, Yes. So, okay, let's move on. Let's, Let's. Three main qualities of a successful person athlete. Ah, hard work, talent and at least a little bit brains. Yes. The three biggest shots of your career. A quit smoking. I quit drinking. Threw it away. It's bad to eat. This fits perfectly. Three compliments to his wife. Uh, the best mom, the best wife, the best life partner. Cool. Three rules for global failure. Well, that is, when you, uh, here you are then I was sitting in Khimki, thinking, Yes? And don't give up. A, I guess I still wouldn't do it then I understood, but some kind of thing had matured in my head at least some kind of action plan. Even if it consists of two points, there wake up and work, that's already a plan. He There should at least be some. That's two. AND, probably, uh make it clear to yourself that nothing it will happen in one day, or even in half a year. Sometimes everything needs time. Yes. Sometimes it's a very long time. Three things in life you can do call yourself first. A, Well look, I'm the first one to fly away when The battle is going on. Always. I'm always first. I wanted to say I'm the first one to buy AVP. I'm the first one who asks Lev AV VP, when he buys it. I give, give, give, give, give, give, give, like a seagull. Here. A, Well, I guess I don't know and with Something else first, yes, to say. Well, I am the first racer among basketball players, Yes? No, No, I still probably that's it, two. Enough. Already There were two. Yes. Yes. In general, we didn't manage to do so much. discuss with Timokha. Call for a Russian national team collection today collect. In general, we didn't talk about We didn't talk about the Russian national team Counter-Srike, we haven't talked about Mediabasket, we didn't talk about your cars. We have a lot of topics, which we haven't touched on yet. TO unfortunately, but or fortunately, we will be able to let's discuss this. Part two. That's why we're here for you now. we let go. It was Timofey Mozgov. This there was Bench. He needs to run. Well, how is he? is he running? Of course, he runs so-so already, but we need to go. Drive. Here. See you. See you. We'll leave this. See you on the server. Thank you for that found the time. Big, guys.