Formula of the Firsts: Ep. 1

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Hi, I'm Alexey Popov, and this is the formula first. On the First and Red channel at We will talk about everything in support remains behind the scenes of Formula 1. People, who worked in Formula 1 at different times time and in different roles, will share that, How the racing world works from the inside. Subscribe to the channel to avoid miss no turns. Where is it not so cruel? This really a very strong, influential person, from one glance of which you want shrink, and not everyone can do it endure. If a doctor approaches you Marco, so something happened. You didn't ask how much you'll be pay. Even if you will be most of the time time to spend outside the home, you should have this kind of perception home, that this is your place, where you are you're resting. It's like a safe. I'm like this there She put on a great show and I ended up squeezing car. This combination is harder for this one, than others. Or you don't did you feel it? Well, the formula is snobbish among snobs. I would be just lucky that I could be that very Russian one. Ekaterina Kosatkina is with us today studios. Who was watching closely Formula 1 for the last 10 years, probably in ours, including even direct ones We saw this charming girl in the reports inhabitant of Padok. Let's put it this way, in former inhabitant of the podka. How so? It turned out that way, as I came to life, this is how it was How she left, we'll find out you today. But in the beginning we always have blitz. You need to answer quickly, not necessarily super short in one word, but not in fifteen paragraphs, and most importantly without thinking. Here's the first thing in It comes to mind, Katya, you say. So, the first person who gave you chance in Formula 1, Well, I want to say, Franzust. Ah, but it would be more correct to say Fabi. Fabiana Valenti. Yes. OK. We will also discuss this later. Yours Do you remember your first mistake in the fall? I try not to remember this, Yes, yes. Leave all, all mistakes behind. There were, of course, some mistakes. I can't remember right now, to be honest, in general, uh, which ones are mistakes. Here. And which of them was the first? Like this I'll say it stupidly. Let's talk about this a little later. let's come back so that our closeness continues, Yes? First day on the track. What surprised me most? Namely, when I was already on the team. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I'm trying to remember now too. first day on the track. And what about me? surprised, Well, come on. Getting to know coma. Here is the first race. On What was the first race you worked? You too do you remember? Ah, well, I just have a long history. Formula 1 hits. Yes. We'll discuss it in detail later. What a race! was it the first one? Pupu. I can say that the most the first race I was at was on the highway, it was Monsa. So what go? And uh, I was there with, so let's say, from work to work, when not I was on the team, and I was there with the guys from Kamazmaster. Here. A most? What surprised me most was, If Monza has old toilets, then they probably have old ones. some, perhaps even such an answer accept. Нет, это это, наверное, rather later, when it’s already from the inside. To me I think that's when I found myself on on the highway, this is the number of people, here This is the unity of the fans, they are right here вот эта вот общность. Uh, I'll tell you now that there's a moment that What impressed me most was the first one. the time I found myself in Brazil. Yes. There, right there, there is still this feeling, which just gives me goosebumps begin to run across the skin. This is when in during the breaks this whole crazy crowd is on the tribune sings, shouts hay hay in one voice. It makes an impression. Here This is the most vivid impression. At the moment, let's clarify for the audience, by the time you're there appeared, not even one a decade has passed since his it was no longer there. A legend that is in our hearts, в наших умах. And this is what truly Brazilian people still since then he has been so sacredly honored and remembered, this, Of course it makes an impression. This is it Yes. Fine. But the blitz continues, even if We have expanded a little bit, yes. And the first one one thing you would change about the Formula 1, you know, uh, all those things that First of all I want to say that I want to change, over time you begin understand why they exist exactly So. And then it's very difficult for you to say, Why is something really needed? change. You then dive into details, I want to change something. But here it is if you look at history later, how happens, and then, let's say, everything wanted Formula 1 to become less closed, right? That is when the transition was from such an elite sport Ecclestone in the direction of such democratization, naturally, appeared I warned a lot about restaurants. McDonald's, right? Well, in general, yes, that is this popularization, it's also I met some negative energy there, I didn't I know those who said that the formula is not that, we cannot go to the people and to masses. And therefore everything is very ambiguous. Here what I wouldn't change, I think. Well, Well, you're watching now. Well, that's how I look at it. Well, when you look, something strikes you It's probably more annoying than anything other. Here's the point, let's put it this way Let's rephrase. What do you like most? annoys? Listen, well, this is the story with struggle when it starts be absent or when, for example, The sports regulations removed the fines, right? Well, there are these ridiculous ones fines. Well, I don't know. Well, you know, when you are inside the team and you you see that your car is being rammed or You want even more fines rammed. Ready to kill. Kill and ready. And that's when your white and fluffy racer is just I drove a kilometer past this clown, and he dared to fly out of and they just drive in circles. You naturally you want something to happen happened. That's why here, as always, this the notorious fool. So, Catherine is in our blitz I found it difficult to answer anything. She's not changed. All is well in Formula 1. First race. No, stop, it will show up later. All. The first race you watched as a fan or should we make a fan? Are you a fan or fan? Well, I don't like these film initials. Okay, so you're a fan. Well, yeah, go ahead. Here's the first race you watched. as a fan. It is no coincidence that somewhere there TV, but here just like a fan. It's hard to remember. Well, deliberately, so that you turn it on race, I looked in the program there or searched on the Internet. Exactly. Уже когдаже that is, before this, it turns out that Before work you weren't such a fan, No. there's this race. At Red Bull, when I was already working, in Red Bull, like this. We will discuss your biography, yes, but, but, Uh well you indirectly collaborated commercially with F1 is your company, and that's why you watched race. Well, what's the deal with the tasks? I was keeping an eye on what was happening with team. I will explain it there for our young viewers. competed in Formula 1, including for team. Naturally, I kept an eye on that, What's going on with Vitaly Petrov? there is behind everything. Here is the first one Formula 1 racer, meaningful before, but, well, I’ll say this honestly, Formula 1 was in the background we have, uh, on Saturday-Sunday, when it was possible because dad was watching Formula 1, and he often watched without sound. Yes. Here. Ah, well, I sometimes joined in, I watched. Dad, dad, dad, What without sound. Ouch-ouch-ouch. Well, that's how it worked out sometimes. This one here the eye voice had to be muffled. Fine. There are still memories. Well Okay, let him be there with dad. This is what it is first race? I can't. Sponya Katya comes out with a sandwich kitchen, and here's dad. I remember that this gray thing was on the highway. Gray on the highway. Silverstone, probably Yes. I would like to say something European. OK. Fine. There are no bright colors. This is all a pawn, kaoma. OK. A Kaiperi there too, right? Fine. The first rule, which you learned in the team, discipline. This is Franz personally toasting with a pointer fingers? No, it's not like Franz is toasting. No, It's just the beginning of the team, right? That is This didn't happen in Formula 1, did it? After relaxed, huh? I'll say it this way, being late is considered to be arriving later than 10 minutes before I agree. Until the appointed time. Agree. Were there any monetary fines? There were no fines. No. Contempt. Great. It's more complicated. Great. Agree. This is more complicated. Briefly speaking, as zoomers now say, passive aggression. Well, that's it. sent the wrong smiley. Yes. Even just even they might snort at you and then you walk away I don't understand what it means, well that is, for me it really is At first it was like this cognitive problem. If time it says, let's say, 9:00 there, taken for granted. And these are Italians, my friends. Well, yes, They're sitting there, right? Here. And accordingly, if you you show up later than there, so to speak which is needed to leave, let's say, going to the highway, that's already, Well, as a reason to panic, let's say So. Discipline was the first answer, In fact. Last question for Blitz. What does being first mean to you? For me personally or for people who for you personally. Pupu first. Well, the first one is so multifaceted thing. That is, this is the first one there, conditionally in other words, experience, and the first experiment. That there is a person who can do this, Yes? Ну, то есть, соответственно, что-то try, to be the first, to be here, yes, the first one who is there What does this mean to you? Well, I think, first of all, I wasn't first. You were the first. Well, okay, let's say, You know, I never thought about myself This is also correct. Well, that's why it's difficult for me. That is I always abstract myself in such things. How can I say what it means there? to be the first about another person leader or first as a tester, first like, I don't know, or something else. Personally, I just never associated as a person. That's what I want be the first. Someone along the way of your career, well, in racing, since we're talking about it, but if suddenly outside of racing you can also say, did you have someone as an example? before my eyes, who exactly would you could say: "This man is the first, He's the same Franz Tost, I don't know, boss. teams or or someone or one of racers, for example, there, and you're on it we don't know him at all, which is not not a public figure, and you're on him I looked at it with wild respect, because in your eyes it's like this the man who personified himself. If we talk about the first one, how respect for to a person, right? Now I'll say this, but Chagin Yes. Руководитель Камаза, да. And how the winning racer, and then how The leader of Kamaz was victorious. An Gennadvich, I have it somehow is associated with this, of course, the first leader, I don't know, or uh by some person who calls such immeasurable respect, warmth and sympathy despite the fact that, as if I I know him, but I don't know him there super close, yeah, that is to say it's still the same some kind of professional acquaintance. Here. But everything that I know about him or everything the way I came into contact with him and I know what he did there, for example, for teams and what is the attitude towards him in which I would immediately say here. Yes, by about Franz Tost, naturally, uh that one a person who makes me feel very great respect and sympathy, but this another kind of sympathy and love. A, Well, we're talking about some very authoritative and humanly important, close in that plan that interesting, probably, from the point of view orientation towards it. I'm interested in I'm watching her, I wonder what's wrong with her there was before, now and after. AND As a human being, I have interest in her and I respect you. About Fabi I should explain that this is the head of the practically permanent press service of the Isfaenza team, which in worked with Jos Verstapin for a while, Then she worked with Max Verstapin. And I suspect that with Lily Verstapin, 10, she will be able to work too. And now Then we'll follow your career path. Just it's okay, yes, I guess it can be done that way say, did you have a feeling, that's when you ended up there in Italy alone, uh, that's it some kind of need for you to have it how mom looked after me there, showed me something, I don't know how it is in the supermarket with what sides pay, there, I don't know, some household little things. Uh, I have fa, well, let's figure it out. Means, accordingly, when I found myself in Italy is one, it's really like I wasn't prepared for this, so to speak, from afar. And when I found myself there alone, I I still remember that Sunday uh dayevening when I landed and and everything is closed. Absolutely everything is closed. E This is not the place for you. There, well, that is, it was necessary, In my opinion, it's February, that is, and the beginning of February, that is, it is such dank, foggy rainy, this is so Northern Italy, yes. Plus, when you leave again there, like, in the provinces and somewhere there closer to the team, that is, it’s even Even mosquitoes don't fly anymore, yes, even they In short, they then flew out. Well, how? yes, this is the state that is like Here it is, they arrived, of course, as the youth would say now bombed. Here. But I remember that conversation, Again, this happened to me and my dad. En said: "Katya, I believe that this is like this your condition is temporary now, and tomorrow you will go there, so to speak, to the factory to join the team, and everything will be fine I was already thinking about something completely different. I have Fabi. Did you help or not? With Fabi? Ну, Фабия, понимаешь, она вот like a guardian angel. I can't say, that she was involved in every day of my life life, but she's like that there really is the main mom on the team, which you can use there if anything happens call, ask, and she will tell you will help or will she find those people, which will help you. No, in fact it just so happened that in I'm on the team, well, like we all do, of course interacted and we did a lot spent time together within the framework of there trips, for example, when you're on the highway we came to Faencia itself and, honestly I wanted to make the most of my time at home and, to be honest, even alone with yourself and your home or at least with people who they don't work as a team, just abstract neighbor. Yes, Yes. I had others, so to speak, friends, acquaintances who are mine They helped me a lot. I'll tell you honestly, Diego Mandolfo. Well, I think you are with him intersected. Вот, вот он был мой как since that older brother, who helped me a lot in some things specifically on everyday issues. Here then let's rewind a little bit, because we have, well, a conditional the topic, naturally, is how to get into Formula 1 from Russia. I know that a huge number of fans, especially those who are younger, they dream somehow. People often write to me, Formula La team? Oh, and in general the topic is, Many people in the team still have this dream. And in your person we have a real one case, as they say now studio, his name is Katya. А уже и в начале we had a conversation, you know what you worked at Redbull in Russia. That is it it's not like you're somewhere or other The competition was held, this is apparently a promotion was inside the company. Either you or me I suggested it myself learn? No, there was no promotion, so to speak. was. So it was still mine personal initiative and Well, there was no such thing as Katya wanting to do something there. go to work. What did you do here? in marketing? What what? Yes, I worked on the Comication team. Well that is, this is it With the release you wrote, I don’t know, advertising filmed, what were you doing? Well, actually, if I say it correctly, Yes, it's like a PR department. Well, just in within the framework of what Red Bull does, it is much more than just there PR service But it wasn't a race, it was just Red Bull company. Yes, Yes, she was. Yes, I hope there will be. Red Bull company, which, accordingly, there is Russian here subdivision. Yes. And you were a marketer unrelated to racing? I'll explain. I came to the team, I mean, in the company, specifically the team Redbull. And at that moment they were looking a person who can do just that related to motorsports. And, uh, it just so happened that before that I worked there, let's say, in PR agency. And, in particular, I led projects related to the arrival of Formula 1 to Russia, when there were demonstrations drives around the Kremlin. basically, I've been dragging on for a long time and and was with me. Here, accordingly, When I came to Red Bull, they were looking for a person who can do this, in in particular, close these ones needs and lead projects, related to motorsports. What's happened motorsport? This is, of course, Formula 1 and two teams: Red Bull Racing and Tora Dew. And this is the Kamaz master who was on long-term sponsorship. Uh, those were signed in the plan as if it were local sponsorship and, accordingly, promoting them. That's Nikita Shikov there There were still a row of us, yes, in the drift. Here's another one a number of guys here are Russian. These are the main pillars. Eh, well, so what took place outside of Russia in Naturally, they talked about it there translated, sent to journalists, sometimes we went to some places to there to see everything with your own eyes, what's happening. Here. And and and the moment you joined the Formula 1 team? It wasn't a sudden jump? No, absolutely not. Собственно говоря, и как did things work out with the team? Aa we, well, it just so happened that I I came to Red Bull, oh my God, I don't remember, year, probably in 2011. I feel bad with dates, I can lie. Well, it feels that way. And here it is, just like in autumn. And there, I think it wasn't even a few weeks ago They came to the Red Bull office in Russia, respectively, aa dad and Daniel Квятовый. Well, here you go, Vyacheslav and Daniil. Yes. Russian representative office. And here it is because yes, we signed at that moment in the team e in God in how is she Well, yes. То есть подписал Red Bull глобальный автоспорт. Here. AND, accordingly, he became young racer. Before that, he even competed in the BMW formula. Yes. Yes. That Yes. This is him, this is not him yet. I was just about to move forward to Formula 1. Accordingly, a m we met them, well, that's it Katya, this is Vyacheslav and Daniil. Accordingly, if there are any side of what to tell about Danina's career, about the fact that he he is aiming to get into Formula 1, that he promising Russian racer. Here let's, well, accordingly, here in Russia we talk about the fact that We have such a young pilot. A, and At the same time, this started Here's the story of how Formula 1 came into being Russia. Соответственно, появился Sochi Grand Prix, да, с четынад. But it turned out that some things, that is, that is already There are a lot of Formula 1 vibes in the air. got into Formula 1, so he Here. А-а, вот мы как раз, да, по-моему, we went to Monza with KamAZ and a few other guys, just to take a look. And I I remembered. Тактак, это про первую, да? So, I I remembered, yes, about the first trip. I was just competing in the last Formula 3, probably it is Their final was in Yasmarin in IDABI. Mon, yes, the last one watch Formula 1 and cheer for the team, actually, because he had it there one of these stages. That is, like cross-promotion between Kamaz and Kvyat. Yeah, well, it's not exactly crossover promotion, but this is something internal unity, because it's like in Redball In general, this story is about the fact that we are all family, we all belong huge big kako Redball family. A Come on, let me take a break now, because that this is an interesting question. We'll be back now in continuation of your personal careers. And just from the inside, because fans often reproach Red Bull specifically because it is the most a cruel, heartless team where the doctor Marco looks at everyone with hatred with a glance, he drives out the racers one by one to others, and now they are exactly the same dealt with Horner, who 20 s I worked for them for extra years. And here I am I see from the outside what they tried to do image of rock and roll bands, where always There's music playing in the garages, yes, it's Energy. Come, you are all welcome. A a fans, on the contrary, say: "This is the most the cruelest team, the most brutal Here is the man who worked inside there, Which of these is true? Look, I'll tell you this, I have very warm ones. relationships, memories and everything to Redbull, as for a big global brand, who is involved in such a big number of activities, yes, that is in general, the history of the brand, the philosophy of the brand. I'm absolutely a Redbull person here, It seems to me as a marketing and in that in general, as if a career person Red Bull has formed it, I'll be honest. Here. Ah, because I'll explain that she's not there now works. So it's not because she I am obliged to answer like this. No. In fact I understand that during the time I worked here in the large structure of Red Bull, as if all those approaches that are there were realized, and all that philosophy, which came from Mateschitz, the coolest, most groundbreaking, and that's it a certain hardening and You've really been there for many years worked, worked successfully and implemented more than one number of projects different, but for you, in the subcortex of yours some kind of initiatives or anything at all creativity, and these are included some basic principles that exist in the brand philosophy. Accordingly, a huge brand, a huge number of signatures initiatives of athletes around the world. Well, cruelty is cruelty. Here you go listen, formula 1 is one of one of, and, therefore, one of the key directions directions, important directions, because what, well, if we remember the story for Mateschitz is generally like Formula 1 - it's actually the main pillar, uh, and like the engine of progress in all its forms thoughts and undertakings. It hasn't happened yet, I It seems like there hasn't been any Red Bull yet. teams. He was already thinking about what it would be like form. Yes, he was a sponsor and he wanted to get in. and make it so that here is his form teams, the team at least, yes, was in Formula 1. That's what I'm getting at. Am I leading all this? Cruelty, Katya. Cruelty. Cruelty. Formula 1 is a world in its own right world. Here. And, uh, you can't judge by teams and how the formula is structured Formula 1 team Redbull about the most companies and mega-brands in general. more cruel than the whole company? Ah-ah, So far I have only said the word cruelty. Please, I can't say, yes, what is it? cruelty. From the outside it looks very easy accuse someone of cruelty, if you don't understand the true motives and you treat this very as if personal, biased and subjective. Fine. From the inside, for the time that you've been there there was, how many people flew out of there? Many. Many. Eh, that's all to the point. Look, I can say this: Formula 1 and business in general Formula 1 is is very cruel in itself. Agree. There Well, again, what does cruel mean? Fine. Бывало, что подожди, бывало, что you felt sorry for someone, what did you say: "Damn, this is wild it's unfair, because they didn't give it to him шанса, он же не виноват. He has four the car broke down several times in a row, and on the fifth he was dropped off." Yes. Yes, it happened, Of course, more than once. did this happen? Or is there a little more here? did this happen? Listen, well, it's like I don't know what happened. in other teams. I don't even know what was in it Redbull. Because every team is its own home and its own rules. You could even reason among yourselves. about this or was it punished somehow? Well, no one punished anyone here, Naturally, but there is a certain ethic. Well, that is, in the coffee area, yes, there Where, well yes, between the TV is worth it, especially the Italians, coffee zone vazha. This is the center, I guess. Yes. This is a story that comes from a padak blah-blah-blah begins. Yes. AND, Naturally, the Italians are the ones people who do everything they will discuss everything and so on. They will discuss, condemn and praise again. Here in in this format. Gossip exists, Naturally, thoughts and opinions exist Naturally, but there is more on top official opinions. And there is another understanding only the three know true knowledge person. Well, that's where we started in time to [ __ ], yeah, what would you change in Formula 1. And Catherine said, I remind you of something I'm ready to do subscribe, the more you are there inside, the more you see, the more some decisions. И ты бы всё меньше и I wanted to change less than I did paradoxically. Do you understand why she It's made like this and we just want you say I'm sorry I'm wasting my time Great. Great. The thing is that many decisions, they may seem cruel because They they are very dry and simple. And it seems, What that they are very simple, directive, yes, and it seems that they are not does not affect any individual. AND from above it is possible, yes, like this, if look at this surface, but Why? He's there, let's say, if it is кого-то касается. But if you you get a little closer and understand everything details and you put together this story the notorious puzzle picture, yes, this is also an expression that came to me in as a result of Formula 1. One of my favorites expressions that there are puzzle racers, Yes? Well, what kind of stuff needs to be put together there? all the puzzles to see the picture. I I used to have a terrible attitude towards this some kind of cliched, incomprehensible phrase, and After a while I realized that this is exactly it That's exactly how it is. You we can see just one or two puzzles and we'll be done it seems like we know the whole picture. On in fact, everything is much more complicated, and sometimes it's much simpler, that's what we do We can think of something. And no one ever knows where the truth is. And he knows the truth two or three people who are among themselves Each person also knows their own truth. AND, Well, more precisely, everyone has their own truth, and there is only one truth. And where is she, no one knows knows. This is the kind of philosophical podcast we have, my friends. If anything, it's still on Yes. So I want to say this: after some time, when some details come up or you grow up and start generally realize how in this in the adult world, some things come together and how business decisions are made, and not only business decisions, and everything becomes their places. Where is it not so cruel? Fine. A brilliant lawyer, I think. Now, if the company is listening, I Seems, listen, well человек ушёл. Uh no, but in any world of big business, when there's a lot of money at stake, responsibility and a bunch of other things I have to accept very similar ones Someone will be told to make cruel decisions. Make decisions Fine, it's complicated. Let's return now to sinful earth. So, here we have Katya working still here. And it is clear that Dania Kvet gradually goes higher and higher And let us remember that they took him there very unexpectedly, without Formula D, that is, his straight from Formula 3. And many were waiting then there is another Portuguese racer such that it should have been, but then hop, they took him abruptly. At this very moment did they offer you to move to the front or is it So he was already an F1 pilot, you still Yes. Yes, that's exactly it. He influenced this somehow or or or you Who took the first step? Look, now I’m here, yes, let’s get back to this story. The only thing I can do is I'll still tell you the rest. Taktak. Look how I would just now I'll be a little bit of a lawyer for the same thing too Mark himself and cruelty in general Redbull. That's when the decision is made, to promote Denmark, take them into the team Formula 1, good example, yes, for some reason this is not perceived as a cruel decision. And everyone thinks that, Damn, cool, awesome. Although, of course, Doshta fans then said that it was cruel and incomprehensible. I remember it very well. Yes. Here. And this is the story of what is simple Which side will you be on? The guy never made it to F1, but he won great there in Formula E, where whatever you like. My whole career passed me by. Why? Почему было принято такое the solution, we may never know never. as if this is a solution that accepted by people like Dr. Marco. It really is a very strong, influential person, from one glance of which you want shrink, and not everyone can do it that he often looked at. Listen, well Do you remember, we had a question at the beginning? about the mistake in the paddock, right? Yes. What were the mistakes after which Dr. Mar And by the way, I just remembered, I think I'm still just like that This is what I remember. We were just on one of the Formula 1 races that was in Sochi. Мне кажется, это была первая как the first time the Sochi Grand Prix. And I was there just back in formulas were carried out in Padok and agreed that there would be Dr. Marco. Here. И э мне это очень It was hard because Marco is a very complex, very closed person. AND as if by some miracle, So, they found a slot in his schedule. Here. And, uh, somehow, apparently, I don’t I'll tell you. Э попросили не присутствовать, although usually we always just listen in order to, and, in case of any conflicts accordingly, know how to deal with them continue working. Because the media and зона риска, как мы это называем. Well then talk. Возможно, английский у всех как бы не первый. A, Well, it's not Mark's first either, Yes? That's what I mean, that he not only the journalist, but also the person himself Brand. And Marco is the man who today he hears, tomorrow, well, in he's thinking about something else. Well, in general, how if this was the first time he It suited me. And how would I have approached him before? in principle it was not suitable. Well, as far as I know, from afar, hiding, as if it were approaching Doctor Marco is here to see you, so something must be wrong happened. And when he came up to me, looking at my own, I ask for forgiveness, with the eye, lost in racing, by the way, this is important clarify further. That is, a person has the right to ask questions of young people, because he gave it himself in the literal sense of the word heat. Yes, that's what you really need this moment is very awkward, very uncomfortable. И я не осуждаю того a journalist who could really, Probably, just uh, in this one the way Mark would like to hear it. But he hinted to me that as if I don't want to be with these people anymore speak. Who is this? Why? What questions? Don't know. I still remember. Great. Listen, okay, okay. And but these errors, they work in two ways sides. Well, not mistakes, but cruelty, Yes? Well, naturally, it worked. заквиата, мы вспоминаем, да? And through several years ago, twice already for ours Well, it's always, yeah, To Kate. So, this is the fourteenth year that we we are gradually finding out what is already in Formula 1. Moreover, by the time of the Grand Prix I remember in Russia that they already announced that he will go, Yes. This time instead of Vernya there is everyone They thought Vernya would be promoted on Red Yes. AND Katya still works at Redbull in Moscow. Yes. Yes. In Russia. How did she end up in Italy? Well, actually, there were these trips to the Grand Prix Sochi, which is, well, in Russia, the Grand Prix Russia in Sochi. And I, accordingly, like host on behalf of Red Bull was present on the route and helped there team in terms of communication with Russians journalists, arranged, accordingly, some of their own, uh, so let's say interviews, slots or something such. Вот эти вот все активности. This By the way, this is the first time I lived fully here with the first Russian Grand Prix weekend racing teams on the track. Yes. That is, they also took me there. at 6 am, at 7 am I am with them I came to the highway, went to the padyki, introduced me to the life of FFmul-1, what it's like there, people come, people go, the sun rises, sets, and so on. Here. And this That's exactly the first one, probably on the track that probably cost me tell in blitz. You see how we will be consider that as I told not Mons, but in Sochi. In Sochi, yes, in Sochi. This is the first one the first one is like this for me right now a full-fledged experience. And this is the first time, when I thought: "This is cool, I would I probably wanted to end up like this team." And it seems to me that in the end this particular weekend or the second one, I already I don't remember now. But anyway, how I would have been known over time, as if in We got to know the team and France. IN at that moment I was with Maria Luisa communicated to a greater extent. This is Louismamicha was the team's press secretary, and France was the toast, which we also talked about, this is leader of the entire Izfas team. Yes. Yes. Here. And well, in general, I guess, going back, yes, to 2000, it's probably It was in 2013. Well, anyway, somehow It just so happened that the jokes were added. like thanks for the weekend, we need some like that people like you. Ну, я в шутку рассказала It's in the family. And my dad says to me: "Ah Okay, jokes aside." Some time passed time, I also needed to somehow understand where to move next in the plan своей карьеры и так далее. The thought that what, ah, in general a dream and an idea to live for plunge into this endless world everything, all sorts of different things at the level when This is exactly what I wanted. Well, I To be honest, it was written by Fabia. Yes. Ah, the fact that it coincided, and this is the probability, I don’t know, one to there are thousands of millions, billions and so on further variations, because aa I don't I expected, to be honest, that after after some time they came back to me with offer, well, consider me in team. At first I thought it would be with Danil to work together. But he went to Red Bull, in the meantime. No no. Ah, but they were at that moment decided that they needed it more a person to supervise this sponsorship, this partnership Part. At that moment the team was Yes. Here. So it's a company from Singapore, but with the leader, which with Russian roots, Russian roots. And so it goes it turned out that the team, yes, after for some time they just realized that they we need a person, apparently from Russian mentality to get better interact and understand each other. And this cooperation was more productive than, well, within the framework just some standard contract and, I don't know, any general strategy. Here. And, accordingly, that is, if talk about how I got into team, there is a lot of veil here wrote a letter to Faba with the offer "Take me, I'm here I want to work for you." Well, I'm not calling on anyone now. to use. No, no, we're talking specifically about you. Да, честно скажу. So, Yes? Well, were there any demands on you? specifically? I don't know. This is what they said: "Okay, interview, I don't know, this?" Naturally, you were called there or where or how I had, I don't remember whether three to four rounds of negotiations. Certainly, Certainly. No, with I mean that Fabi I I wrote simply asking if she was there. I passed it on to the HR department and they said: "Yes, let's wait for a while came back completely different предложением, так скажем. Here. Well, yes, and this proposal was formed even closer to the end of all my interviews. That is, it all started principle: "Let's try." They demand some specific things again requirements? So they ask what you are can you do it there, how many languages ​​are you you say what kind of computer You know the programs, I don't know how How does this even happen? I sent my resume. Well, in summary, maybe, the main points are written in black and white things when you form about yourself, yes, opinion for the employer, which, accordingly, the employer, if she looks like she has a story, let's say, probably, in motorsports, in Formula 1, she is known in the team, she I don't remember whether it was 5 years old or Redbull. That is, she is a person from the system. Ah, maybe she doesn't need that much. will explain something and retrain, because there are certain rules, which, well, are kind of broadcast to you from Red Bull, from Formula and so on and so forth and the like. That is, to get into Formula 1 is simply impossible to watch from the yard, As you understand, there are no outsiders there. A, but in any case, someone will still Always makes the first step for yourself. A it's impossible that if they say the team leader was engineer, the engineer was a mechanic and so on further, but there was always a moment when he went in there, right? By this point He is an outsider. Well At this point he's an outsider, Katya. Well, how is it? Well, I mean pre они не родились. Here's Max Verstapin can only say that I have a dad No. I mean, the people who came from outside - So, relatively speaking, I was I don't know, an athlete, a fisherman. There have been such people, I'll argue. Бывали и такие Well, you see, you have to have everything. I'm equally interested in how you look wait, come on with you, come on with you, Yes, yes, yes, let's continue. So, that's what they demanded from you. something during these rounds negotiations, watched how you react and so on. What did you demand? They ask: "How much will you owe me? pay where I will live, but here is my minimum rider, what's that like there? Is it customary to say that artists, or what? Or You say: "I agree to everything in general. Here, lay some straw for me in the corner. boxes, yes, give me a mug of water and I "I will work for you." How so? Or are you still straight? did you bargain? There was no such rider on my part. Who am I? You didn't ask how much you'll be pay? How much will they pay me? I have that You asked after all. Yes. Well, how? otherwise? So you're already smarter than me, you know? Because when I was 18 years old I left for border, I didn't ask how many of me Wait until you go abroad, You're going there alone, you need to uh somehow I still have to pay for the apartment some expenses. Naturally, I had the very first question is when, well, conditionally speaking, that is, as they tell you, your salary will be like this, like until you lived there, in that country or you don't know if this is enough for you life, yes, or not enough. Did you agree to everything or at least to something? I argued, did you at least ask for something? I don't remember that. Exactly. I said that, you see, it’s the most important thing for me the main thing is that, uh, I can be comfortable live. Yes. and work with you with pleasure. That is, at what point did this happen? It's that owl from Hogwarts again did she fly to you or what? How did you know? that you are accepted? interview, then I was invited to come в Фенцу. A You didn't know at that moment? Actually, it's like this, well, like this pere, that is, this is for the last round Faenza was invited to the interview. Ah this is That's a very nice gesture on your part. teams. And it seems to me that this is personal initiative of Franz Tost. So that people before joining the team, and We arrived and saw where they would be. live, what they will do and all that other. So, accordingly, I am there They called me, they met me, they brought me there, I I don't know, they walked through the factory. I had one interview, and I'm from the series spent the night Fenzi, went back home, and I They sent an offer, I think. So, somehow it is was. How much time? Well, it's all a bit hot there. traces. Well, that is, it wasn’t like you were right there I suffered, will they take me or not? Look, the next story. You They send an offer, but the biggest question is - this is the registration of a visa. And this is a bureaucracy that lasts a minimum half a year. Yes. So until then, well, that is, how You might have an offer in your hands, but if you don't receive it documents related that will allow You work, yes, you can do this offer Do not use in any way. Accordingly, there was a long period of time that followed. this is connected with the design of everything these documents. Here is the full team took everything upon herself. Well, that is to say, I was told what documents I needed provide. You continued to work. ABOUT. Did your colleagues know that you were Are you planning to leave the ship? Honestly I will say that until I received the document, that is, the decision on I didn't say that they would issue me a visa and kept it a secret. Moreover, as I wish I had some kind of test too For me it's moral. I've been here for six months now I gave it to him so that he could understand that I was ready. to leave or not ready to leave because it's still quite big solution. AND but just from a human point of view vision, and the young man, for example, was at your place? No. Well, by that time I was alone, so that's probably why partly it was he wasn't there before all this started negotiations or during the course of them he was gone and somewhere psychologically you decided? No, before before Well, I think that globally here was connected start life with a clean slate. Well, allow yourself to realize what you Yes. So good. Yes, that's how I decide. Fine. So, here comes this one day, and, as we already understood from previous, it was a cold winter. No, and there, well, we have an Italian winter, yes, also more unpleasant than our cold winter. Yes, it all actually happened sometime. look at thermometer, yes, they think 10-15°, and it’s possible wear a light autumn coat. No. No. И вот Катя выходит, значит, on Sunday, as you said. Well, on Sunday I was sitting in the hotel. I I didn't meet anywhere at all. Not, Well, how they met me and drove me there. I Did you look for an apartment yourself or did you use that money? Look for an apartment yourself or did they help you? somehow? Well, uh, look, at first, honestly I'll say, I lived in a hotel like this nearby, tipart. Here. And while I was searching in parallel, accordingly, an apartment. Apartment You search completely on your own. Well, here it is. Diego really helped me a lot in in this sense. Долго не складывалось, но like 2-3 months, in principle, by standards teams are not the most сложный и долгий период. If you just If you want to get good ones, find good ones. apartments, because the city is small, and The choice is quite community-based with colleagues. Well, yes, plus or minus. Here. AND, accordingly, as if a quick option at the level of nesting you can find and cheaper. I had one there too question what 90 percent of the salary, yes, or 85. Here. Но мне как раз я к тому моменту I've already even started to leave, that is, the first ones and returned. И мне в тот момент коллеги they gave, they said such a smart thing that I, well, kept in mind that, Katya, even if you will be most of the time time to spend outside the home, you should have this kind of perception home, that this is your place, where you are you're relaxing, it's like a safe, this is it, Yes. AND then I say: "No, how I would like to live I know, from a week, but I want these come to your apartment with a feeling, "That this is my home." And this is the apartment found. Mm, after some time I She just walked in and snapped. An apartment was found based on the principle that I also got a call from someone who said it was a realtor. said: "There is an apartment, there is an opportunity "We ran at lunchtime, I went in there, there is a person, so to speak, was already getting ready to leave, go away or something like that. Yes. Yes. Signed the documents. Through I spent several days moving. OK. And at work, let's do it like this. Italian. Moreover, in Franz Toast's car It was a very funny story. I am now the biggest, the only big the car was, yes, in a small Italian city. No no no. It's as if France has Attached vehicle from the team. Uh when I said that I have, accordingly, I found an apartment, glory Oh my god, I'm like I'm going to move to France I ask like this: "Do you have one like "Who should I move to?" I say: "Well, no I know more, to be honest. Well, somehow I'll drag my suitcase there." He's like, "No, no, that's it. "It won't work." Like I'm going away for the weekend, there, I don’t know, I’ll be in my car, take mine. as if with zero honestly, I have a car, well, no matter I drove for a very long time. Well, in that departure to Italy. Yes. And when What is it called? That is, I arrived, it was, well, February, March, I don’t remember, that is, well, basically, I remember how We drive, thank God, narrow poppies streets, yes, yes, when you have a station wagon It's huge, and you need to move in. I'm honest I say, I made such a fuss there, and I In the end, I squeezed the car. Yes, boss. The first time he gave it to her, more didn't give. Well, that's the first and only thing, Naturally, I wrote to everyone there. And uh This is how I would write to everyone who is there assistant and so on, about what I I accidentally squeezed this one in there there take my heel, kidney and so on further. A France says, like, Katya, no I'm worried, we'll be there somehow on Monday we'll decide. But, of course, I will later They told me that the first thing I did was Frans, when I arrived, he didn't know yet, A lot, yes, really seriously. Well, no, It's not that super serious there. That is, there is no the car was mangled, but that's it You're nothing It's clear, Listen. Well, the car is insured, in fact. My plus, and at your factory at the end polish it? Not Yes, right there, oh my God, I have these, when the car appeared later, I, I came there too, Yes, was my client all the time. Listen, Well, it's not like I'm super constant. client, even if you, then you. Yeah. This is such a very simple formula in Italy, so you can't have super there cool car, naturally. Их никто и не имеет, Actually. Well, especially if you live in the city, Yes? Fine. So, uh, look, to this the moment you move, that is, you already some time there with colleagues you communicate. You didn't know Italian, did you? No. That is, all communication is only in English. is it coming? Yes. And are they easy to accept? There, Of course, there are different nationalities in team, yes, but the backbone is still there I am more than that, When I arrived there, I realized that I I don't know English. Well, the Italians don't know him either. Doesn't matter. Well, how can I say that, I guess for the first six months I still didn't care it was in this plus-minus format a dog that understands, but only very briefly cannot express. But people accept it kindly or or a barrier? No, it depends. Как раз я хочу сказать, that all the barriers are in our heads. That's what Formula 1 taught me. And in terms of communication and interaction in general, eh, there are several principles like this basic ones you should know how express your thoughts correctly and simply. Yes. It doesn't matter what pronunciation you have you do, you make these mistakes, there are mistakes or No. The most important thing is, well, to be able to not remain silent and yet somehow manage to hit the mark with the thought. If this is the first level, if rise higher on the level and you have some deep thoughts arise about which you want to reason about, these you can also use it, accordingly, practice somewhere there, I don't know, in a bar, not in a bar, etc. further. in this over time you Well, the more you communicate, yes, the Then you turn off your voice in terms of this fear, this barrier that I They'll laugh at me. That is, if we speak conditionally key skills and experience, then all this is possible express communication in one word. Yes. Yes. Whatever you do, or you Are you social or are you an outcast? within one's own team. you don't you will. Ну, в смысле, здесь вопрос того, again, everyone has their own attitude towards this, but I know that those people who are there, do you understand how you will be an outcast if you you did something wrong, you didn't do it yourself you feel comfortable, you don't want to go communicate with people, yes, and you find it difficult to interact, uh, and you want, for example, talk, yes, then here it is psychological conflict. If you have, so to speak, there is no problem in terms of and no one talks to you. I saw guys on the team who quite withdrawn and closed. It's just them exist in their own specific world. That If only it weren't super easy. It is clear that life, it seems to me, is generally in the last time I come to the conclusion that It reminds me of the metaphor with swimming style. You can choose different styles. there, I don't know, rowing, yes, or how are you you're swimming. So it could be there. crawl, breaststroke, power, yes, with such jerks. Maybe there is, I don't know, a dolphin under water, which is sometimes there You can just do it on your back, you can relaxed, however you want. Hats without a hat, without glasses. In our pool you can't go without a swimming cap. Well OK. Well, I'm just saying that, like, uh I have this amplitude here, this sinusoid, yes, on the contrary, concentrate and here at the top you can exhale there, yes, it's to take in air, then under water swim with some fight, I don't know, difficulties. Here. Uh, and then, accordingly, everyone chooses the rhythm and the style that suits him. Понятно, что Формуле 1 it's not easy, but overall, overall, overall, whoever was, to anyone, especially if you you constantly travel and drive, physically hard. I I just, look, what I'm getting at is, but what if but for a Russian girl, this is this combination is harder than others or you didn't feel it? No. Well, I can say this, yes, definitely the story about her being Russian This is what she's like, a curiosity She was present simply because the fact that there are very few Russians, well, practically none. This is what I'm getting at with these declines. Right now, for example, I repeat yours experience would no longer be possible. Well, I I think that in the near future or in that in the context that exists, let's, I don’t know whether to invent it or say it, that everything is possible. Not now. I think, What You still have friends. How long have you been don't you work there? My God, we have a pandemic when we are twenty Twentieth. Ah, d. Oh, well, sorry. This had an impact on the completion of your work? sitting there locked up, and you came back? Yes. Well, no. Well, no. Well? A Friends have remained for these 5 years. 5 years It's passed then. Listen, despite all this, it’s surprising, Yes? Well, I mean, I can't say that We're super friends there, but sometimes I they write different several different different nationalities. Yes several, yes, yes. There are those guys, which, surprisingly, even just humanly, yeah, how are you, what you do what you work, something changed, did not change. That is, it is difficult to enter, but when you are already there, they accept you as one of their own, my Well, I think this is the story here. purely vital. This is not a story about Formula 1 or not Formula 1, as in any, I don't know, company, team, business. The formula is very sheaf-like. That's what it is here This is also a supersheaf. Plus more Italy itself is people, look, sleep friendly on the outside, but very reserved inside. Here's how to break through this shell England quickly and easily. Sheaf England. Well, basically everything, in basically, listen, we are very Snopskie. Uh, Well, the formula is snobbish among snobs. Well, yes, that is, even in this pyramid F2, I mean, on the same track The Paddock is nearby, it's a completely different world. Yes. And the first and first year of F1 pilots I always I noticed, I don't know if you saw it from within the team, they always continue go to F2. They are stalking their ex team, they go to their captain's very comfortable in this giant Snopsky super team F1. Gradually they get used to it and stop going to Formula 2. And here we can say that they hatch, but not right away happens to them. Well, I think there is that, first of all, yes, There is such a thing. If you compare the podok there are Formula 2, Formula 3 and Formula 1, It's just, I don't know, two different worlds. They are similar. То есть там есть такая projection, but when you're in Formula 2 or there in Formula 3, uh, you think: "Damn, well Everything is somehow very simple lung. Думаю, надо идти в Формулу-1". В Formula 1, you come in, you're captured emotions, how everything is right here professional. Well, it all depends again. also from the padak, where this happens, because every route is different, impressions from the padak can be completely different depending on where did you end up? But after you you return to Formula 1, let's say, "You can do it like at home." Well, that's how it is I have this feeling простоты, такой свойскости. You I feel much more relaxed there you feel. Но когда ты привыкаешь к Formula 1, that's it, you're already becoming, well, more or less a hostage of this world. A, and Moreover, you find those islands security where you can rest easy feel yourself, or wait it out all this storm. Was it necessary to keep up appearances the whole time? All time. And this and so can I say, forgive me, I am still like that When I returned to Moscow, was there a feeling, What is this like F3? You came here, that's what you just said that it's already here You don't have to hold your face, and you exhaled. AND Now you can do it with these colleagues be yourself, but there I am all the time every day or not? Or were you completely relaxed? you can't be completely relaxed never. OK. Here too, yes, I mean just, yes, the conditions changes. It's clear that when you If you're going on the highway, you might be tense in its own way. When you're on highway, you can tell me how, here be tense at this moment, but in this moment is an absolute thrill, calm, serenity or just there to be on the drive because you you do your job, which is for you brings. How much is the marketing department? really part of the team? I want say, there are mechanics, engineers, those who work with the machine directly, right? And here you are, you It seems like they're wearing the same uniform there, right? Well that's exactly where you can go in the evening, I don't know, to the bar, yes, to sit, and they They're still working there, and they have headaches the result, and you don't have a headache result. In terms of hurts? Certainly. Bonuses are tied to pilot points too, Yes? I don't remember. Ну, ну сейчас, подожди, Let's get back to the subject of discipline. Firstly, the difference between, conditionally speaking, there is marketing and mechanics, engineers and pilots and so on. Well, it kind of exists by virtue of degree your responsibility to be present highway. But that doesn't mean that if mechanics, let's say, arrive there at 6:00 morning, this is the day when there, let's say everyone gathers at 6:00 in the morning, Yes. We can only be half an hour late. Yes. Again, why is this being done? To, uh, create less stress on what is it called, hospitality that is where we are we're having breakfast. I understand, yes. on the highway, of course, that is, as if приоритет идёт в сторону механиков. They The first ones ate and went to work in the garage. AND lunch and dinner follow the same principle mechanics and engineers eat first, then мы едим мы. But that doesn't mean we there, I don’t know, they arrived at twelve, because we don't have anything before twelve there is no schedule, let's say. And we We want to arrive on the highway, we want not to We've arrived. No, on Friday it's exactly the same 12:00 until 1:00. Yes, there if, for example, the garage is still working, the engineers are still sitting, we don't have to wait for them, yeah, like this does not mean that you feel like you are part of this team. So here is the result, there is a good qualifying on Saturday and everything is on the rise. Of course, yes. Listen, well, besides that everyone is on the rise, you have certain obligations and work. That is, there at press services, for example, after the race or there after qualification, what is the task write a press release, leave with a quote. go out, do an interview, go to to the press center and blah-blah-blah, what with You need to be a pilot. Accordingly, I have, If I work with partners, then this is you met the sponsors, introduced their tour, garage, garage tour, yeah pilot, I don't know, some others different activities that exist there's a session, sign this which. Interesting, let's remember. Look, uh, they recently remembered here with fans. The most memorable thing to the fans, when in Barcelona on the first lap Raikanin, who was piloting in Ferrari at that moment, and the director on A Ferrari that is literally crying inconsolably. Yes. Yes. That is, it was in itself Interesting. И пресс-служба Ferrari в in the hundred-thousand stands of Barcelona somehow take him to the paddock, give him a present there He took a real photo of himself. That's what it was like for them, I understand. that's luck, because that's how much 20 years have passed and still, well, maybe, 15, people remember this story. What kind of ones did you have when you It seems like you do everything according to a template, Now or Franz Tost with his Austrian Come on, roots, and do something it worked. You know, Franz is an interesting person in in the sense that I don't know if it's Austrian or not here. Austrian, it's probably a feature his personal character. He could sometimes come up with some crazy idea, that's it the principle that he saw something there, it seemed to him, and it was necessary like this go and do it. You can be to I'm absolutely not ready for this. prepare in advance, you can come to him, he doesn't see it, so he doesn't like it, and he will say: "No, under no circumstances." Here. But that in as if through France from the point from the point of view of approval, agreement, as it were some kind of marketing initiatives or teamwork That is, it’s really just one person, all team decisions at all levels, how to say, that is to say in any case it is First it is decided internally, then it is agrees with France. That is, we can’t do anything spontaneously. would be to do. Mm, well no, I kind of, that is, you still inform him about it that's what we want to do, Franz this and that, like you're okay, okay. Let's say it is What interesting stories can you tell? remember this kind. There were always some if we wanted a manifestation, so to speak, of humanity humanity, well, we always have it in our own way implemented. То есть там и людей, cockpit. A didn't run out and say what are you doing. I'll tell you again, if France. OK, Can. It's a one-man team, right? No, I'm not saying that this is a team. How can I tell you? There are moments like this, There are rules. There are unconditional rules. And you understand after some time, what if these rules were not there would have been chaos, anarchy and so on далее, соответственно. But sometimes to make some concession, for this requires a person who, well, that's it as if making a decision with authority. It is clear that not only France, if one of the chief engineers, let's say, from the outside he could say something like: "Yeah, okay, We can do it." We did it. Here What was your corporate culture like? let's call it that way, what was it to you it is absolutely forbidden to do this, discuss politics, I don't know, there's something there they told you: “Not for nothing don't have affairs with colleagues there or vice versa. "Well done." No, I think so. We leave everything in the family. Uh, Well, that's it, that's what happened to you They called me right on the first day and they said: "Katya, in other words, the code, like no way certain, in any case professional ethics, right? And if you had any, I in any case, I always have doubts asked with whom? With the team elder Sfrabi. Yes. That's where she can sort of orient herself, like yes, yes, no, no. Stories about relationships, for example, there meeting within the team, of course, is not welcome. And there were many such cases. Well, Well, not for you personally, but in general here it is like this story. The fact that such cases existed, they did, but inter-team ones, I know, happen sometimes Romeo and Juliet. Well, there is in between team, yes, within the team after time, let's say, people left the team or someone went to another team, and they can start officially or publicly meet. But the fact that, like, it's not welcome, I understand about this, that is This is more of a story about the ban. Yes. you find out that there are exceptions I've been there, but you're also amazed at how people they were masters at hiding it all and keep to yourself. While we're on the topic, yes, How much more difficult is it for a woman, after all? because we talk about it all the time now how everything has changed, but still this one always remains somewhere the point is that it's still more difficult for a woman, than a man. And all the time, that is, that, that we will never be conditionally to say that Franz toast is a man, This goes without saying, right? That is We have a toast from Franz, and if it's Fabia, then here it is Fabia is a woman. Here is a woman on yet Okay, pressata, but there is a female engineer. Then we will repeat this four times This is a woman and then she is an engineer. Yes Every time, it happens. Here is a woman engineer. A I don't see any problems with that. Well, in the sense that Well, you had a feeling that if you No. Nobody ever anywhere discrimination. In the role I was in. Perfect. Yes. That means it's even better, right? She smiled. RM and the doors opened there. I don’t know, it’s just that, relatively speaking, If I were an engineer, what would I be like? history, but I don't think so, because in Formula 1, well, from what I saw, maybe I'm just lucky to be in Italian team, where there is such a thing or else a cult of women, yes, I would like to be that very one Bella, but somehow, yes, that is but this also imposes responsibility. If you can be in the English team ordinary basic English, then here already morning. Yes No, no one made any effort. And I I think that it just might be for you somehow so far from femininity, But I think our viewers now, yes, Well, as I mean in my essence, but uh in this sense it is precisely Italian the team and the surroundings of the Italians It raises self-esteem in principle, yes, yes, it did, because In general, my attitude towards myself is like, uh, in principle, girls and unwillingness to hide. there I am in the village of some certain people of mine internal sensations I stopped and understood that here Definitely not. AND Well, the courtship is already overt, Well, some comments, that is, jokes jokes. То есть, допустим, я где-то по I feel like I'm getting uncomfortable, I did it right away, I'm right here, I can just say, to be that very Russian, which are feared. It is worth it, as we know, speak with a Russian accent and immediately everything at once is set to Yes. That is, if She probably played in a purely feminine way. A some things, yes, but in some things quite the opposite, actually. But I have such a role was, I need In general, there is a feeling that the Formula 1 - is this a men's sport? Because I have seen very often that women are worried and many of them are, well, They're fighting for rights there, why? there are so few female racers, let's have some more Why is it too macho here? solid. Eh, it's hard for me to judge because that again, I'm kind of like with I am on the dominant side, yes, I am It seems like it's okay anyway, but here it is No, no, you didn't have that. Look, I think Formula 1 is very technical, well, technological, Yes, a sport. Accordingly, if we engineers, the difference between a woman and a man only its first, intellectual, yes, abilities, second, endurance. And the same thing, accordingly, in sports, If we are talking about kakpet, only here in First of all, endurance, yes, it turns out to the foreground. Ну, как бы и дальше talent and opportunity, skills and, as it were, intellectual abilities. That's how it is This is what men and women do - this is it's a very individual thing, yes, as it were we also know engineers, men who there may not be so much there intellectually developed, not so much hardy and women who, on the contrary, there may be, yes, but from the point of view piloting here, uh, how would we do this I didn't want to, but I don't know if there is one now. where does she get so much strength, opportunities and energy. Well, that is, as if she had It turns out that it seems to me that way, that way does it matter who is there, a man or a woman? The problem is that they choose the best for certain reasons, as it were characteristics. Я рад, что ты это This can be attributed again to there Men's stories. But if, but if this the woman says, well, I don't know, I uh No, I don't try, as if I don't have any is there feminist there or not? feminist attitude or am I somehow с уважением ко всем. Yes. I think that m here when we talk about sports, Yes, it's clear that there is physics there too it really matters how we we didn't want this, but if somehow physically, let's say, the male body in some things are more resilient, then, He will probably have priority. But no every male body can do it, так же как не каждое женское. That's why This is super elite. And, accordingly, from the point of view cognitive or, I don't know, intellectual abilities, I know crazy amount of girls who engineering, mathematics, that wouldn't scratch the car regularly in the city of Fa. Doesn't matter. Poor things. No. Well, what's the difference? Listen, I, by the way, I don't see any here there is no direct analogy between scratching or don't scratch. Even a man can scratch. Maybe, I confirm, I am sinful. I'm explaining to you, I have a car, I'm first раз повезла на ремонт. Do you know why? Because my neighbor's son was backing up across our entire small yard and not Estronoso. Well, he just backed up and like that there would be about two meters or so there half. So, what's the difference? Could I find myself in this situation? quite. Crap. Katyusha, let's summarize. How much in total? Have you worked in a team? 3 years. Three full years, huh? With the trips, yes, with all that. together. А дальше началась пандемия, и мы broke up. Do you have any regrets about it? time? То есть вот чёрт, хотела бы я or vice versa, this was excellent experience, but thank God it's over. I'll tell you this. You know, Now, after some time, I feel the same way about it. as a cool experience that was in my gratitude that it's over Then. Yes. Maybe I would have stayed there a little longer, maybe a year and a half, roughly speaking I mean, I hung out, but basically, I already have it at the third year level questions arose: "What next?" Well, that is, in the sense that I can develop, what can I do, and how would I Well, from the role I was in before this, move on to some other new one. Not because you're tired of just driving or is that also 20 extra trips? I can say that the fatigue is physical after a few years of this constant non-stop arises. I'm in In this sense, I don’t understand how people, who are like Fabiana, there are 20 something years of traveling. 30, well or 30, yes, there are already 40-50 million billions of years. That's why mechanics, for example, here are those that are older, yes, who are present in the team, Italian, yes, and in English everywhere There is. А эти это же люди, ну, ну, works. There is a moment of second wind, understand? That is, if you passed some point, then that's it, you're already you go out like Possibly, right? You Death will not separate us from Formula 1? Yes. Maybe you will at some point you become a hostage to all this stories, and I was thinking about that too. Mm, well, maybe, we become afraid to change anything. Here he has this moment that I I didn't understand it as a teenager, but scary and impossible вспомнил потом. Yes. Ah, good. Here for these 3 years, three full seasons, come on also a blitz, but no questions asked. Just here are the poby which of those racers, Who did you work with the most? did you like it? I don't take it as who now faster fast seconds because we We know it's an abstraction, yes, it's good. машина удала, вот эти быстрые секунды. A It was just easier from a human perspective all work, who was the most smiling, the most communicative, Well, I'll say right away that within the framework Padaka, anyway, you work with start with yours now. Start with yours with those with whom you worked. Let's ask a two-part question. Here are some of them like when I was on the team, respectively, probably wouldn't have happened anymore, well, accordingly, Dania, yes, we worked with Denmark, and we worked with Carl Sainz I was on the team, but I wasn't that close to him. communicated. That is, as if formally we are they crossed paths there at events, when we were there he came on time, no he was rude, didn't get cheeky and behaved himself Amazing. I can't do anything bad say, but it's natural that he is like that a certain character, He is his father. And as if in this against and continue to remain so, Yes. And then Max showed up and then there are just two parties here over each other periodically and with some warriors, yes, I don’t know. And this It's interesting to watch this. Ah, but with him Tabata worked to a greater extent and how she would be, so to speak, close a person, so it’s like there’s something special with him I don't know him. I felt very comfortable to work with Pierre Gasly, with Hartley, Hartlivo, Brandon. Well, he was just a man. adult, intelligent, disciplined on the field. They're all teenagers still, right? Well, sort of there is a certain difference after all mentality of the one who is 20, and the one who is which is 28. Well, that is and the person who, relatively speaking, I've already gone through all the failures and returned, well, to I mean, he was invited to the team, and he was like would look at everything through the prism, Well, I don't know such a very adult one, not exactly skepticism, but awareness and understand. One answer will be Gasly, Hartley. I Who is best with everyone? Who more? I love Alex. Well, again, I'm not that close with him. It worked, Albana, yes, but it turned out that way, What We met him when we were just in advance, that is, we also had some photo shoot on the eve of the launch of the season with team. Here. And Alex was there, Dania was there there, and Alex, it just seems to me that against the background of that, as if already meaningful obviousness that was, If I say so, this one appeared fresh, naive, sincere, very as if so simple. And this is what youthfully embarrassed, of course, attracted as much as possible. And plus he is like appeared immediately with his mother. His mother very much like a woman, huh, conducive to communication, and she somehow all the time he meets and somewhere were in England. Oh, let's go somewhere there let's go. Well, how would you joke like dada? And then we meet, we go to Indian restaurant. In terms of? Yes. Ah, well OK. I came, picked it up, and off we went. further. And this is an exception. A, listen, I don't think it's, well, like That's nice. That is, if this, if you remember this, that means it didn't happen that often in Yes. Of course, of course. No, well in Formula 1, Naturally, this is professional sphere. There are some human beings present there. manifestations, but quite rarely, that is due again to the fact that this is professional sports team Alban we count, yes, after all Alban, yes, of course. Okay, good. I love everyone. This is not the case. It's clear. And now the second part question. Well, okay, now you don't have to be able to judge about the professional qualities of each, ибо видела только через призму. But you As a person, who would I be for? Well, even I won't. when I ran into you, you just, well, There was no more noise, but someone teams, who were just wow for you, I there passed next to this person or we stood next to each other during the pilots' parade there or And now I will say this. And it seems to me that my arrival in general in many ways, very much connected with the figure Jenson Baton. Yes. When I was in Padok, it was natural that he was no longer performing, but when he was leading any interviews for You tried to walk alongside. Yes, but I was very pleased to see him and behold. And I thought, years have passed, but we'll still get by somehow, well, crossed paths. Professional ethics Of course, I stopped you from coming over, selfie do it, yes, or in an autograph? I've never done this. I don't I like things like this. I completely agree. Well, I don't understand the point. You You know, when I started making the book, and the publisher told me: "Well, come on, everyone my photos with the pilots." I say: "What photo with the pilots?" He says: "I mean, "What photos with the pilots?" That's when I realized, What I also remembered one more. So, Wulhart, Sorry, I'm going through the motions, but this These are my absolute favorites. Again, I had with him it's very much like this chelove That is to say, I will say this, in Formula 1 in general, and probably now I'll say something strange. Than me I liked Formula 1 and I always watched it on this sport, uh, from the inside. me, well, there you go sporting achievements, of course, that is, this story that we are going there in a circle, who gets what, and so on, all this is present. But I always had the psychology of what's going on there racers, who performs how, How does the team perform, who is doing what? maybe get together, maybe there, I don't know, find, not find some there, I don’t know, technical solution or how they cope with a crisis or something else things. This is humanity, if you could say for и спортивного. And I always felt very It's interesting to watch the figures different racers, who showed themselves in what way life or there beyond the highway, here outside the cockpit, so to speak, here Peta. I always really enjoyed listening radio, these negotiations, that is, where the racer becomes himself by yourself. Yes. How does he actually communicate with the team? and how is the team with him actually communicates. how should you sweat, well, besides what's there, sort of the work of the press service is certain, it is necessary give well, how to understand here that and racers, we we are moving together There are a lot of things that the racers themselves do time, well, I mean, how is it you can't spoil the second brand either, but in other teams, because they are all like that, it's always certain to me This seems to be a code. That is you, maybe that's when you're from Formula 3 you move to Formula 1, the first six months you absorb this and then it becomes yours, well, sort of natural environment. Like that interview It is necessary to read in the first six months of a person's life F1, you don't need to read any further, You can write for him. No, it’s also interesting to read later, because What are you reading about acting news? Everyone's skill level is different. And there, you know, it’s a bit of a detective story, right there you start adding up kaleidoscopes and understand that this is when when they say this, they mean this, and this, this, and how would you you collect these phases. You see, friends, Ekaterina is doing the appearance that she is no longer following Formula 1, and she watches how It turns out, and very carefully. Katyusha, we can't finish without that, so as not to ask what you are doing now are you doing it? Well, I work for a very large company. Russian company. That's all I have I want and can say. It is forbidden. Ah, I see. I am also all in the direction of marketing plus or minus there is PR, events, events, some of these personalities, personnel and people and creation stories. Here. But this is completely different sphere. Formula 1 gave you additional tools in your lives that made you who you are now you look at others and ha. As they say, where you studied, there I am taught children. Uh no, first of all, I don’t want it globally look like this on people in life, in principle. Uh, You see, I had this buffer the period between the work of Formula 1 and moving to Russia and working in new realities. Uh, maybe the way I am now I feel like it's impossible, even for sure. These are completely different things compared to with the way I was there 3 2 4 years back and 5 years ago. Here. And so on let's say, a certain psychological one there work on yourself. And in general I spent from I already have a feeling of myself in this life it's completely different. Here. Ah, I think that Formula 1 is, of course, very a lot of psychological experience, disciplinary, career, human due to many factors. Formula 1 taught me, That Well, first of all, this is very personal of mine. history, because how would we like we take and what triggers us is what we are there for either there isn't enough, or vice versa is very actively present in us, but we We hide this. Ah, but so philosophical I'll say that interpersonal, well, is very important, interpersonal interaction, yes. Yes. A and this one here requires your strong psychological personality, which, well, if it really can in case of any crises there, fatigue and so on cannot be withstood. And after some time, that is, there analysis and understanding of how it functions Formula 1, a completely different attitude towards to all those people who work there over the course of many years. E understanding that, how do all these decisions come about, how people react, why don't they react Thus. And all those possible the condemnations I had, они теперь отсутст опять. Back to to the same one. Brilliantly. The very last question. Ah, in one word need to answer. None at all today's conversation. Who will be the champion? One last name. Tell me, who are the leaders there now? I know that Verstapin is not among the leaders. Okay, so it's not Verstapin. Fine. Piastria or Norris. You don't have those. I probably caught it. No, of course, I caught Norris. Noris. Okay, Norris. Well, due to the fact that McLaren is in the lead, but I don't believe that Piastri can do that to perform well, like Norris. Brilliant. We have women's intuition it worked. Yes, there is negligence and calculation here. Well, Pyastri maybe, probably, it's me again we need to see what's going on there highway. But I know, excuse me, which one That [ __ ] Norris and what kind of school did he go to? AND the most interesting. Well, he's in good shape. I mean, [ __ ]. He has very good leadership qualities. He is a good man. I want to believe that he will be good. the winner. [music] Alexey, Ekaterina, good afternoon. I have such a question. Почему Формула-1 можно first of all, it depends on your settings bolide, and not at all from your talent in performance. A car, if we're talking about it, is the tip of that iceberg которую люди видят. This is the result painstaking work of a huge amount people. So, uh, here in the inside of the car the pilot is sitting. Его, ну, как бы за ним bridge and a huge number of engineers on the track inside, in the team. quantity mechanics who assembled the car, the number of people who produced this car and all these and assembled developed, I don't know, materials, this Uh, it's not a one-man sport. And I will summarize everything especially for Roman, what Catherine said, only more so obviously, so that it is clear that Formula 1 is not only a sport, but also sport is 100 times more difficult than, excuse the expression, football. Catherine Kosatkina, thank you very much for coming to us. Formula first.