Formula of the Firsts: Ep. 2

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Hi, I'm Alexey Popov, and this is the formula first. On the First and Red channel at We will talk about everything in support remains behind the scenes of Formula 1. People, who worked in Formula 1 at different times time and in different roles, will share that, How the racing world works from the inside. Subscribe to the channel to avoid miss no turns. Guys, Russian Grand Prix, Formula 1 will come out. So it came from Kirk. Of course, the Sochi Autodrome was quite a difficult place and a difficult race track, which, well, was a big hindrance. I used the podcast for personal purposes. They are all packed into one ambulance suitcases. Bernie said, "Guys, here it is. this is mine, Yes, "Here's a circus for you, we'll take pictures ourselves." Today on our podcast we have Alexey Titov, a person whom he doesn't know, except perhaps someone who has never seen a Grand Prix Russia. Because if you saw Russian Grand Prix, then he was always on in the foreground. He doesn't always want to. said. flashed on the second. A modest man. This organizer. This is the organizer of all, well, maybe not from the very first, but, at least significant Russian Grand Prix, which was supposed to translate everything into To Egor. He even did it on purpose, we see, is present in Egor's logo and Now. But unfortunately, as we know, for reasons beyond Alexey's control, Formula 1 never reached Yegor. Not yet Got there. As you can see, the presenter, naturally, there is a piece of paper where it is I have outlined the topics of conversation. What about me? shocked and what immediately opens up the class to you this character, yes, that's what the guest has some papers that he brought with him by yourself. That is, he was preparing for this. talk seriously. It's all very simple. Everything is much simpler than You think. I didn't prepare because I have a bad memory and I really don't I want the network, for example, to forget names. Fine. But you won't be from a piece of paper. read? Fine. I will read from a piece of paper. Why? Because we always start with blitz. And I read out specific questions, directly generally very specific. Ready? Let's. So, we have Alexey as a blitz. Short here you need to answer. The very first one question. The first person who gave you chance in Formula 1. Oh, Andrey Lenovich Kostin, President board of directors of VTB Bank. OK. Your first mistake in the subdeck, do you remember her? Trusted people. No, well that's too general. Trusted people. Can. Well listen, this is then it won't be so close now it will be and The story goes like this. It's OK. Bli in questions. Yes, I will, if I have another year organized was involved in organizing Russian Grand Prix from 2018 to 2021. Yes. My first year is a grand prix eighteenth year. This is basically it it's a very chaotic time because he preceded by a change of legal entity owner of the autodrome organizer competitions, because right up until the end In 1917 the autodrome belonged to At the Omega Center. This is one hundred percent daughter Krasnodar Krai, which before this At this point, four grand prix have already taken place. We We explain it to people, yes. And a decision is made about what should a specialized one should be created the organization that should be engaged in organizing races. Yes. And the organization of the Grand Prix and track administration, because all realized that she is quite like that a specific thing. She's at the Omega Center, with all due respect to her, she she was engaged in maintenance Olympic Park. She had them the number of rooms is something terrible number of beds. Well, that is to say, to them the grand prix was one of Yes. And it was I who created you, the growth races. By created horns, uh, of which I became the leader. Actually, I have to tell two people Thanks a lot. Dmitr Nikolaevichn Cossack and Andreyevich Kostin, because if If it weren't for these two people, I would hardly then the head of VTB, who was sponsor, without whom Grassia also cannot it was because the formula needed it pay. Absolutely right. In the process of adoption decisions on the creation of a specialized Andrey Leonidovich remembered the organization, that at that time he was involved in motorsports. Well, a little bit of tropher, as far as I I know, the reason. I had my own back then the ring team I was on manager. We performed in Russian ring, in the Russian ring series racing. And at the same time, I was traveling myself. in rollerblades. I'm driving myself. That is, as a team leader Have you been to Sochi Autodrome yet? Yes. Yes, yes. We that is, the structure was already known To Alexey Titov? Yes. At this point we had already put two engines down at the Sochi Autodrome, so Sochav I didn't really like the autodrome. Yeah. The straight moto is a bit too long. Too long straight motors start crumble when they are set up. about the error in Padok. Yes, Yes, the mistake in Padka was very simple. Organization, organizational process in in the eighteenth year it was very, very difficult, uh, for me personally, because, Naturally, this is all happening for the first time, despite the fact that the team seems to be There are already four grand prix there I organized it, but there were a lot of nuances. We trusted one, ah, to the lady, let's say, who had to help us a lot with the organization catering. And one of the most important blocks is the racing control tower, in which are on the first and second floors, well, the first floor is technical, the second floor racing control towers, that's all It's related to sports, there's flight control and and so on, and so on, and so on. A the third and fourth floors are the lodges administration of the President of Russia Federations and lodges of the government Russian Federation, in which, Naturally, there are pre-cooking bars and and so on. And there should be service there. the most most most dear guests who There are some and they come. Prichityva, that on dirty guests arrived at the Russian Grand Prix including the President of Russia Federation, therefore Yes. Therefore, the status of guests in these boxes He is extremely tall. There is room for error. No. Yes. And I trusted this person, she should was in charge of organizing everything catering, including selection staff. Naturally, taking into account arrival of the very first persons at the race track. All must be agreed upon in advance. Federal Security Service preliminary. Here I am in the previous one, I am in the previous day, on Saturday, I decided that I'll finally allow myself to get some sleep at least I'll get 4 hours of sleep instead of being alone on the couch. in the office. When it's not How many days have you been up to this point? slept for 1 hour? Almost 2 weeks. There are no more than 3 hours there. it was on the day. The previous one and a half to two weeks, no more than 3 hours in day. And he continued to understand something else. at all? Well, listen, I was young. You know, I like like like old. I was young, I money was needed. Was. Fine. Well, well, by the way, that's good. Let's. a break is well paid job title. Well, I hope so at least Well, listen, I won't complain. back then it was an experience, now it should be well thanks, among other things, to the fact that I slept little. Here are people, you see, if you want earn money later, work hard Now. Absolutely not at the moment. This is vital rule. In general, you work a lot, basically, if you want to statistic something live It is especially desirable on Yegor Drayfa for free. Yes, No, no need, no need, we pay well. On Saturday, on Sunday, very early in the morning, at about 5:00 a.m., I have there will be a call from the head of the Federal Security services for the North Caucasus. He says: “Alexey Vasilyevich, here we need "come on over, there's a problem." Here. Well, naturally, my dream cried, because I fell ill somewhere around an hour ago at two, at three, so the plan was wake up there, Yes, yes. Well, at least at 9:00, that would be great. I'll be there at 5:00, I arrive at the race track, the plan collapses to sleep. And there's just a line of people, I don't even know who they are. And, how It turned out that no one knew who they were. The lady decided that if agreed People won't come earlier, no big deal, sent new ones that no one had seen, and these are waiters, bartenders, cooks, well, that kind of thing there is a whole block related to maintenance these very ones. It should also be clarified that even regardless of the FSB, they are just go to the autodrome, yes, English partners must first issue The passes are electronic, yes, personalized. Here, thank God, it is specifically formulaic the accreditation system did not function, because in fact it's entry into flight control was out of the question. So you have an entrance, they still had to get in somehow on And there was a whole approval process. There our accreditations were issued to them. When we started to find out, we realized that people from the previous shift simply passed it on their accreditations. That is, there in this the plan began to dismantle, as people passed other people's accreditations. And then the chief said there: "Guys, we don't even know who they are, so we we won't let them in." That is, to serve no one. And here I have, here I have, my first gray ones the hair that is there, that's it then appeared because before the discovery there was a lie The service then starts at 10:00 It's 6:00 am. Well, by the time We realized what was happening. Here I am now I look at my watch and see that it's 6:00. A in order to set everything up in the lodges, It takes 5 hours. Well, because you should understand, right? That is to say, it is not I just came there and dusted it off tables, from three dust tables, sat down and you work. this is to cover, wash, cut, prepare, get everything ready, anything related to the kitchen. That is, this is this a long process. But how did it all work out in the end? Thank God, we managed. FSO extremely quickly and efficiently checked all of these people. We are very lucky that Most of these people came from passports. That's why they are very fast checked. There was a cut off, well, I don't I know, 10 percent for reasons security. Here they all got kicked out perimeter, and the remaining people were enough, to organize services efficiently. Here. And then there are no complaints about this service was. There were no complaints. Well, I still am So, there are no complaints about the service here was. Okay, I see. Yes. Okay then Let's. First day on the track. What are you? What surprised you the most? First day on the track Let's differentiate then. Let us clarify that since you had a career before, but we Now we're talking about yours specifically. managerial position. Yes. On the first day. The first day as such there wasn't, because, well, everything is in its time began with the fact that, uh, a representative came out and got in touch Nikolaevich, who said: "We must meet and talk." He told about the concept that I wouldn't like to Are you going to take part in the Russian Grand Prix Forum 1? I I say: "Whoa, what grand prix? In general, with I'm going crazy, I have it here, I have it here, I have it here, I have cars here, I have five here cars, pilots, I'm driving myself." No, no, no, I like I don't know anything about it at all organizing the races later on. How long did you resist this? I don't that he resisted, just then then it was presented as some kind of such a request, well, let's say, from the outside from outside. Here. And then just then My colleagues from the bank called, Yelech is there having said. Well, if necessary, then go ahead. Fine. Well, okay, not the first day. Well Here. Well, on one of the first days. What What surprised you the most? This is what is very many emotions that surprise. First a full-fledged emotion is, of course, Get into the paddock in Monte in 2017. And you too I've already arrived there, of course, knowing that you you will be We already arrived there, knowing that I would be new promoter. Oh, and we just arrived here. get acquainted with the insides of everything Formula 1. And then I was shocked to the core. impossibility, because before that Formula 1 was either on TV, a, and One time my dad took me to a race in Nürburgring in 2006. I'm talking about that then I didn't really know anything about Formula 1. Year of birth In 2006 I was eighty-nine, accordingly, in 2006 I was 16 there years. Still, yes, not a child. Well, no, well, not a child, but anyway I can't say yet that I was immediately shaped by some kind of clear position on Formula 1. I then decided to root for Mark Uber's BMW. So, I don’t know what happened. Here before I'm still, as they say, keeping an eye on this one race with tears in the eyes. Here. A and look at this world from the outside and then, finally, look inside it and see everything that happens there and see uh there and people's emotions. And here it is your beautiful guest from the previous ether, she was just seeing us off then with Franz Kost. Excursions Kosakina is talking. Because she helped to carry out the first excursion. I met her. I'm in that year I met the Panuli brothers, Kolya and Alexey, because they then we arrived at Kolya's, I don't know, I'm sure, that I knew him very well. Not I know how often you meet on Grand Prix, but Kolya at the Grand Prix is ​​this a piece of motorsport helmet. The main thing is that everyone signs the helmet. It must be a helmet or something else stray. And so, accordingly, he I ran with this helmet. His brother is behind him. Alexey, who has it stuck in his backpack, there are some posters, posters, all this you need to subscribe. He's with the crazy ones his eyes run and collect everything. Here I think, by the way, that we are Alexey We'll definitely invite you to this podcast. After This is necessary. Need to, because, unfortunately, we already have Nikolai we won't be able to call him, yes, and his museum, yes, lives. still in the main one, Yes, he did an amazing thing. He is for Ferrari organized an absolutely unique meeting the whole team at the airport. On Italian cars, on Italian horses cars, on Shishiga, a convertible with healthy flag of Ferrar. They drove with the Ferrari flag, yes. There was a lot of stuff there. That's why there isn't just one such a clearly expressed, understandable emotion, because my first grand prix he stretched out in time, but from the point of view emotions this can be called as some kind of, Well, like the first time you had sex. This is all happening. very quickly. So, oh, it's already happened we have on It's just that this is all for me lasted for one and a half years, we won't burn, between other things. Yes, It all lasted for a year and a half. Now now I'll even rearrange them because ours question because you partially answered it I already answered about Nürburg then. Here the first race you watched as fan. Ah, and by that time, well, later we realized that it did have an effect after all Rashta's influence in the RCRS manager was and I raced myself. But until the moment or father I told you: "Here we are going to Germany, son, on the formula." You're like, "What is it? formula, dad? How was it? You know, honestly, I think he is I just wanted to have a beer with friends. Here. And then it was as if it had to be done I still have to keep the guy busy, and I, well, I'm like I am in In general, I was interested in cars. I have I had a passion for books. That is to say, it was an event. This is this is this some souvenirs and photos remained there. Yes, Souvenirs, photos. I still have it Mark Weber's cap is lying around from back then times. By a completely happy coincidence circumstances. I don't know how he does it got it. At some point he says, "I I'll be right back, don't worry." He returns with a Vodofon T-shirt, black Vodfon T-shirt with Schumacher's signature on it her. I still don't know where he came from. got it. He is still silent. He told me says: "Where does this come from later, when grew up sixth year." Come on, listen to this, Bodafon was a sponsor competing with this Makla. Well, I bought a cap, but he knows, what i know. Maher, being a pilot Ferrari signed up for I repeat, I don’t know. History keeps silent. He doesn't tell me where he's from. took this shirt. I climbed in on purpose. No, I looked, I directly checked this The most, I checked the signature. It was the signature of that very same Mikhail Shumakhin, so everything is real. Where did he get it from? took, I don't know. Either he is with someone agreed, I don't know. This T-shirt is available. I gave it to Kolya. Panuli, because I've had it for a very long time there was a wardrobe hanging, it 100% should be in museum. Oh, and just when we I've already met Kolya, I arrived I worked in Sochi, I completed the SPOV at the museum already in some more sane, understanding in an understanding state that here is happening. And I told him: "Kolya, I have several elements for you, which must be passed on to you because For me they just disappear, but here they are will be very useful." I gave him this T-shirt. He knew how to find emotional attachments and build stories around the simplest things. We caught ourselves thoughts that we have already been standing for six minutes we listen to the story about how he Maronello squeezed the gift bag Ferrari. Then this package turned out to be, there is a museum hanging under the frame exhibit. I think only Kolya can talk about things so colorfully. But he can. He can. So, we remembered this first one race. Then the question is more difficult. The first thing you would change in Formula 1. Oh, what a difficult question. The first thing, which I would tomorrow you become Dominical, conditionally, or maybe even higher the head of Liberty. I probably would, I probably would start work on simplifying the technical regulations, because technical the regulations are so complicated now and it creates such a large amount difficulties for everyone. So you're like Bensulaev, bring back the V8. Yes, there Well, no, it's not that you'll bring back the V8, well Look, we're already starting to cancel wet racing. Come on guys, seriously, we We are afraid of rain in the formula. It's not because of motor, but this is a technical part aerodynamics. still a part technical regulations. That's why it's present. at the same time, in average races and Formula 1 has a lot of grip now, especially more than many disciplines have on the staff. Well, in fact. And it seems to me, that this is not very good. If you want, uh, just a quick madness, for This is NASCAR. Well, well, please, go watch Nascar. They are right there They drive on an oval. If there are crashes, then straight away everything is like an adult. And I just really I want to, because I'm like that a little bit I'm an older Formula 1 fan, I still want some of these elements the simplifications of the old days have returned, because, I repeat, now for me personally It seems that the technical regulations are very complicated, and because of this the whole thing flies out They complicate things, yes, that's the first story. I I can also do those, I can do several points add some if we write off. Come on, come on. I would really like to reduce the number media activities and media days for pilots and involvement of pilots, because find, please, one more discipline, in which athletes are forced to do so much and say so often. Well, I know for sure about rugby, in which I'm leading that there is one team captain comes to the coach together with press conference one day before the match. It lasts for 15 minutes in total. He is asked two questions question. Uh, we were playing, we won or we played, we lost. All. That is, when you really You see, what is your friend Verstapin like? his manager is unhappy, he says: "Guys, we are a global brand, and we They force everyone there to really do it in the dart once, every Thursday, that is, no, in Thursday is when he's on the track, and on Wednesday, So, before that, they go with Yuki "throw balls somewhere there." Who is it all for? And this is only And this is only in days Grand Prix, which for a second in the season I don't know how many there are now, 24 pieces. That is, they must suck 24 times. news hooks from a finger and also chew over how it is there, and how it is with you treat what someone scribbled someone here, well, that is, you know, even though from the media side it seems I should have been happy about this, but here I am I fully support you. So, the quality of media will increase if they will do less of this wonderful e exercises, let's call it that. But here at we are just like you said, ours The previous guest was wonderful, she was with from the marketer's side, yes, here's Katerina Kosakina would not agree. She said: "On the contrary, we need what they call activations. They need a person to exist, but they then they could show it." Wait, activations are something completely different. I, Of course, I'm not a marketer, but activation is not implies that a person must speak. Activation is Hamilton, who opened a new boutique there sponsor. Activation is Hamilton, who, uh, put Sir Frank Williams in jail into the car and took me for a ride. Here's some activation. Not 20, they are 24. They need to be done within a year. Well then, let the marketers do it they unsheath their sabers and get busy marketing, but to force pilots endlessly number of times to discuss the same thing a million times. We are now moving away from the sprint. But I have what to answer, and now I will aggressive. Well, come on, because you are against it, and I accept it This. But I'm against Fridays. Wait, against Fridays? You mean sprints? You are against Fridays on the track, when we say: "Get rid of Fridays." AND During Covid they even cleaned it a couple of times Friday and it all started on Saturday. But they who should sell tickets the audience was told: "No, we are the organizers we categorically want the races to be in On Friday everything was on the track, and on Thursday pilots were brought in early in the morning "The route." I can tell you one thing for sure. I am very glad. I am very happy to sit today at the table like a real professional, because such deep callings as They say not every journalist is allow. I will answer you. I will answer you. If all the promoters or Formula 1 I would give the same to all promoters conditions, then all promoters with huge I would gladly give up Friday. But when everyone there has Friday, and you are so handsome, I decided that you have There won't be a Friday, you have all these 100 150,000 people who come to the race track, they will be terribly unhappy. You, Guys, please make a collective decision. We will all live with him. And we're talking about this. respected mustachioed people were talking. Well, as they say, where they belong is not where they belong. Where are they? And the Vossians will stay here. Yes. Absolutely. I agree with you completely. I think the weekend should be simplified and to shorten. And what is happening now, we already have a race, a race within a race, qualifying for a race that is not is considered in order to determine Who will start? This is complete. If the next stage is in Formula 1 there will be a reverse, you can exit I think there should be a reverse instead of all these qualifications that at least start broadcasting on the screen, a reverb should appear on the sprint, By the way, even in the RCRS there is no longer any defense attacked the RCG. You said you could a big list of what you would bring canceled. You started with technology, then media activity. What else would be in this? list? What else would be on this list? Ah, I would. I definitely worked on it increasing the number of teams. -Eh, well, that's what we need. admit that, and, in front of the current organizers Still, you need to take off your hat, because that they are great, they managed to break it hegemony of teams. Eh, it's difficult for me answer why exactly this is happening. It doesn't seem to me that there is any one reason. Ah, well, that's what I would like to change, this is, let's say, a, to carry out Americanization of Formula 1, but it seems as is already happening. This is a big plus, because if we look at m the finishing protocols of the last two are there seasons, well, the number of winners different winners per season, it is noticeable It's increasing, right? Dominant for now one way or another it remains, but she already much less, and that's good, well, personally me. And then now we finish the sprint like this question. What does it mean to you to be first? Oh my god. You know, being first is when they spit in your back. We partially started talking about yours career, Yes? Now after all can you, have you communicated with your predecessors? Of course, of course. That is, can you partially, maybe maybe not as detailed as they are, that's not it lived from the inside? I can say, maybe, I don't know, Cossack to you I told you, but when we were there for the first time We decided to do this with Berne, so how is it was? I can advise you to all viewers, Formula 1 fans who want learn the history in great detail Formula 1, go online, type in e History of motorsports: Russian Grand Prix Formula 1. There is a wonderful book, written by Sergei Ushakov, and Valeria Belova, released just now immediately after the eighteenth Grand Prix years, in which everything begins in the distant year of 1898 years. That's understandable, yes. And there it is told in general, in principle, the history of motorsports in Russia and how Formula 1 appeared here the number of times Bernicol Stone came back in Soviet times. If if we talk globally there, then history Formula 1 in Russia, here is the latest Sochi stage, she It starts with, uh, well, first of all, understanding that Russia received the right to conduct Winter Olympics in 2014. AND as a result a global political decision about that the legacy of the Olympics must live on. This a very important task, which is also in In the Soviet Union I realized a great deal for myself management when the Olympics were held 80. And we as a country, that is, well, Soviet The Union first and we, as successors, successors, everything related to Soviet Union, very good realized. and one of the few in the world, a, countries where the legacy of the Olympics lives on and lives quite actively. U, ah, and then the first ones appeared there sketches of what seems to be like this Formula 1 is a good solution to this tasks. Here. And it seems like two appear main two main tracks, two teams. The team, well, let's call it that, the mayor's office team and the city mayor's office team Sochi and the governor's team. Because There is one track that Alexander followed. Tkachev and Andrey Krainik. At that time Alexander Tkachev, of course, Vice Governor, oh, please, not the governor Krasnodar Krai. Here. And Andrey Kraynik was the president or director, I don't remember exactly, official, Megafon, North Caucasus. And Megafon shouldn't surprise anyone, because it was that period there mid-2000s, starting in 2005 and onwards Megafon was present at the National motorsports almost everywhere. Here. And the second block is this Alexey Agafonov, and, accordingly, Mayor of Sochi Anatoly Pakhov. They everyone understood in their own way what Formula 1 was is needed and can be useful to us. And everyone I went about solving this problem in my own way. Aa because Kraynik really wanted it integrate, that is, without regarding Formula 1 he really wanted integrate the Megafon brand, bring it out to a new level and throw it in international international motorsport, because at that moment, I repeat, in national motorsport is already over it was good enough and they were present They are active. And plus, he himself liked Formula 1. And just when it appeared in 2000, I think it was in the eighth or ninth year a final decision has been made that The Olympics will be held no, in 2007, in 2009 already active construction began. Agafonov, for his part, begins engage in analytics of everything that takes place in the world of Formula 1. And to him They told us that Monaco is very bright, beautiful and wonderful mountains seas of Sochi. They are ideologically similar to Monaco. I I understand that for residents of the Russian The Sochi and Monaco federations are not quite are associated, but from the point of view Naturally, everything works perfectly. Hello. Here he is immersed in this story, starts going to Grand Prix very often in order to communicate with team representatives, with managers teams, with representatives of FOM, to understand how this world works from a point of view from the point of view of commerce, marketing, operating systems, what does it look like? from the inside. But together and almost gentleman is walking on a parallel track A crusader who decides to do something quite wild adventure and pays big amount of own funds for that, to shove Megafon in and hang it up on the Renault team spoiler and specifically on Alonso because he was big Alonso fan. In order to to see in general how the world will respond for such activation, everyone will have their say say what will happen. The international community is taking notice. There are a lot of positive reviews coming out from Western from the Western press. Then the media It wasn't there yet, it was there then press. Here. And many people start writing that That's it, Formula 1 has started speaking Russian. He understands that this is probably a big one plus, he's heading back to the city resort of Sochi. And by the way, there are some of them, I got confused because the extremes are just was from the city administration. Therefore, let us ask for forgiveness. You see, will already begin. So the edgekeeper comes to Pokhov and says: "Please, let's do it. We need with you to start thinking about the topic, to integrate Sochi. Sochi uniform. I remember in the beginning they did a road show, just when you said Mona Marina persuades Pakhomov to install a megaphone Cityreassing Sochi. Sochi Race Days in the center of Sochi and right on the embankment and These races take place around the Seaport. There was Renault, Petrov, Marussia. Yes, Marusya was there, there were also townspeople there it's just, well, it's just as simple as that they say, young, what I wanted I didn't want to let him into bars. Here Picket Junior arrives and, in general, the show that goes with it, naturally, is going to rock very good success. Everyone pays attention to this. In this moment all the big leaders they understand that in the course of things some We've found the right story with Formula 1. Kraynik comes to Pokhov. cooks it give permission to invite Tilki to Sochi Herman, because by this point everyone was stubborn, everyone realized that Formula 1 is needed, but it must travel somewhere. She can't to drive around the city as if in a vacuum, you need route. Accordingly, let's not it will take a long time to suffer, let's call Herman Tilki, as a person who was there at that time 50 plus Formula tracks have already been built. That is, not only with architecture, but and built. That is, the experience is colossal. For the money of the thug, they bring Herman Tilks in Sochi. He is met by administration, they show him Moorport and They say: "We want it here." He says: "Well, it looks beautiful, yes, It looks like Monaco, I see boats, but the streets are narrow, you have nothing here "nothing good will come of it." I heard that You are somewhere around the Olympic Park. A Let's go see it. That is it came from Tilka. Tilki was the first person who rolled this ball towards what Formula 1, if it has to go on, it should take place right in the Olympic in the park. They took him there, there he they showed the plans, he looks at the plans, looks at the ground. And at that moment Olympic Park is just a remake We opened it and everything was still there dug up. Yes. Yes. At that moment, it was the ninth year, If I remember correctly, it's autumn the ninth year immediately after the electric power supply another forum of some kind economic or something like that a fairly large economic stories. Accordingly, the heifers they come and say that this should be like this. They all start scratching their heads, They understand that there must be construction. And in At this moment Kraynik takes the most the right decision. He, naturally, calls and starts, as I understand, very actively convince both Pokhomov and Tkachev about that Formula 1 should take place here. And most importantly, he still makes one an important call to Taimuraz Kozbekovich Boloev, who at that time was head of Olympstroy. And this the company that spent the entire Olympics built physically. That's all hotels, all sports facilities, Olympic Park, everything that was on Rozekhu Khutor, Rosa Khutor, Red Polyana, that is, in short, that's all Olympstroy and Taimuras Kozbekovich. A calls, accordingly, to everyone here to these big bosses and says: "Guys, let's get ready, let's think. Formula 1 should take place here, because the only way to do it so that the Olympic legacy I lived well, precisely from this point of view from the point of view of world attention, this is to drag here in form, because at that moment, ah, well, there for 3-5 years it was the norm, promoter contract. Yes. Ae, a little out of the box In reality it was seven. That's why as if there was a political reason, well, just obvious. That is, even if we We are signing a 5-year contract with Formula 1, then for a very long time international spotlight of one of the largest sports series, continues to shine very brightly on the very heart of the fourteenth Olympics years. A, Well, in general, it turns out that they have it was possible because there was some after some time a meeting takes place just between these beautiful ones respected people. And Dmitry's position Nikolaevich Kazak, as far as I was known, it was voiced that, guys, the idea is good, We've heard a lot of good ideas, let's go please provide a specific business plan, specific operational plan. How many All this will cost, who will do it? build, how it will be schematically architectural. Here's the canvas, please. Bring some more. Then you and I will have a substantive conversation, because there are good ones ideas we had during the construction of the Olympics heard a lot, We don't need good ideas, we need people and actions. And this plan, naturally, taking into account that at that time At the moment, Agafonov has already accomplished a lot to work through, is born. He is born quite convincing. Here's this one further the process starts. In October, oh no, a little earlier, at the very beginning of ten years appears Organizing Committee of the Russian Grand Prix, Formula 1. And this is the first serious sign that that the state still accepts inside yourself at least a conceptual idea, that I need to think about this. Here. And then a whole bunch of visits begins Grand Prix of various. Nastya Bendikova and Igor Ermilin are helping Tkachev to meet with Bernay in Belgium, because Bernie at that moment, naturally, due to the fact that Bernie a very rich history of arrival first in Soviet Union, then to Russia with very large ones, that is, it is like always says, you will be very now meet with a very big boss, He will solve everything for you. Here he is, naturally, I got full very quickly. However, a Igor Vasilyevich and Anastasia are helping uh, Tkachev should get there correctly Berne. He presents his idea to him. A Tkachev is delighted with the Belgian stage There are calls to Dmitry Nikolaevich. Dmitry Nikolaevich, as far as I remember, Singapore was his full-fledged visit too in the same year. And Singapore is September. Yes. Well, and, in general, the pathos of it all a ceremonial signing takes place Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix agreement. Uh, He signs in Sochi. Unique frames. I advise all viewers to visit look online because there the director is sitting, that is, solemnly signing, everything is beautiful, the director is sitting Naucenter Omega, as the actual builder there, the owner and further Formula 1 Grand Press promoter. Sits Bernicl Stone, and behind them, behind Vladimir is watching the signing Vladimirovich Putin. And that was the most the best way to tell everyone everywhere is that, Guys, the Russian Formula One Grand Prix be because if you sign contract of such a reputable company, then how there would be no way back. Be it a stuffed animal or a carcass, it's still Formula 1 must pass. In the Rest is history. She passed, she passed in the fourteenth year, as we know. So, the first ones There were four races without you. Oh, and you said it was for 5 years initially. the contract was signed. Yes. And at what point was it extended? He extended once in 1916 year, when that is, by the time when you came, you had more than one race, right? That is, the contract had already been extended. By the time I arrived, we had there was a grand prix, uh, we had to to hold the Grand Prix of 1918, We had an agreement either before twenty-second, or maybe until twenty the third we spilled one thing that is here Now I'll do the fifth one, and then unknown. Yes, that's absolutely right. No there were already several of us then stash, and we are just using the shift owner and contract holder, We improved things a little for ourselves there terms and conditions for sponsorship packages. Now let's do it like this. From what you You can, of course, speak, because I I suppose there are some things, which you are obliged not to disclose, yes, Formula 1: control by the loudmouths unilaterally. There are a lot of different things going around. For example, the fact that, uh, unlike most things, where what The longer it is, the less people pay here The longer, the more people pay. You Can you confirm this or not? What every following year there is almost a plus 10% of the previous one? No, no, look, it's very simple. Bernie didn't become king of the world for nothing. motorsports. He knows his stuff, he knows it's very good. Uh that's why when we read when I read the first contract, signed in the tenth year in Omega with from the point of view of conditions, I got up, that is, that is what he was like plus or minus. And then just every year it is, naturally, already already. That is, in the fifth year we paid in one and a half times more than the first. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, if plus 10% every year. Well, well, well then you're the first Grand Prix spent, you tell him: "Bernie, well what 10%? Are you crazy? "Give me 1%." And then What is the inflation rate in your currency? Is the entire contract in foreign currency? Yes. What is the inflation rate there? Half a percent. Here go 0 5 0.55. That is, Berne could talk, Certainly. This is where it happened quite a serious conceptual the difference between working with Bernie and working already with Liberр Medдиia. Because Bernie, despite the fact that one way or another was a big company in terms of there are some legal nuances there, it was not a corporation in the classical sense form and in the classical understanding of this words. It's like it's his brainchild, and he's with it. did as he wanted. I know a million-dollar wagon, a small one a cart of history about how people came to the London office of Formula 1 and this is, well, that is, the first two floors - these are apartments where people work, and third, fourth - that's it over there He lives there, he has an apartment there. Yes. Here. That is, in this sense he was like that. quite straightforward, understandable, a common man. That's why everyone negotiations related to pricing politics, these big things, They were about personalities. They never there were some understandable corporate rules. This is just when we already re-signed with Liberty in in the eighteenth year, we are renewing ourselves, eh, the contract is until the twenty-fifth year and we are seriously updating it quite a bit Here we present the price component to some reasonable market norms, when you don't have to worry about it every year renegotiations, and it's all somehow more or less it stabilized, and then things moved on Igora was already registered, yes, or her then they added Igora and she appeared concept in the twentieth year, as the concept is nothing but that. And there was a long process of negotiations. I I remember the Dominican announced at some point the moment that here The Dominican came to visit, that from such and such a year we are moving to Peter is there. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. In 2000, in the twentieth year, when we had our last year there, when eh, this same Cheiskeri jumped off in the twentieth year or in the twenties year, I think. Moreover, Cheiskeri announced that he is leaving the post of director. There was COVID there at the time. He announced it while flying to us for the Grand Prix in Russia. That is, we, I was leaving the office meet the Formula 1 top management on board with the understanding that I am meeting director of Formula 1, Chunk there the notification is as follows. This same Chase Carey announces that he is stepping down from his post like, "Thanks for saying that, brother, well Now we will know." Well, that's it then the first ones took place there in the twentieth year high-level working negotiations on the topic of what to do, how to live further, where to carry the race, what to do with it to do, how to develop it. And then The first Proliskidrives have already appeared. Why? Well, let's just do it now, we don't we take what ultimately turned out the way it did it worked out, right? And if everything went like this, Why did you decide to move in the first place? Because that she is indeed more racing and built for racing. A or what? Or we just kind of stayed here for 9 years, Enough, let's develop another place. Yes. Yes. Everyone came to the understanding that racing must be development if we We're playing Formula 1 for the long haul, but At that moment, everyone was planning to play Formula One. 1 in the long run, because, naturally, a there are absolutely obvious carrots there, which were hung for Formula 1, this is, guys, if you are moving, if you are us support in moving to Egora Drive, then we, as it were, from our side, well, we will talk about serious long-term money. It's like this for them It's also an important story for business. Formula 1 since Liberty's arrival Media has become more and more reach for long contracts. Now we see every time who is here up to 4 years of the first year, who because for For them, this is a clear business model. At your place a clear set of uh immediately appears revenue associated with promotion. Here so it was an important component on that moment. That is, when when is all this it happened there on the nineteenth, twentieth, well, twenty-two first year, well, Sochi, Sochi as a region, but already stands as firmly on his feet as tourist capital not only Russia, but also the nearest abroad, and with international affairs already then how there were difficulties. So at that moment international tourism everyone understood that It's not really suitable for Sochi anymore it's relevant because the flight is long, far. Shorten the route already then did they want it or was it later already since the Grand Prix is ​​not did it work? Restrictions political restrictions with The Formula 1 sides were removed, but here are ours the internal ones are working. That's why about this I can't answer. You can't answer. Fine. There is a chance that he will return to the second floor full bloom, because when shortened, it seems like it was said, but everything will remain there, nothing, not one the place will not be built up, conditionally, where the route passed. That is, theoretically it will always be possible to return it. As far as, as far as I know, uh then it was said that Formula 1, not Formula 1, but a track in case necessity will be built. Here. But despite everything respect for the Russian championships in general In principle, to national races, neither who won't be in national motorsports enough funds to pay Nobody wants to stop the kilometers go, right? Nobody wants to ride 2 km, right. So, uh, I'm sure the technical the possibility of, uh, restoring the route there in six months there is. Eh, but no one does that. will do for objective reasons. It's just too expensive. That is it it would be possible and it would be logical for some big project like that like Formula 1. Yes. But only if Formula 1 decides to return or some other international series, they will already go up the hill because why do we need to go there? why do we need to go there? restore when everything is here and is it ready? Then let's get back to the moment, while it was not yet obvious. After all it was, let's also speak frankly, it's not the most interesting races, unfortunately. This there was excellent infrastructure. Twenty-first year, the only year with rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, It was a good race. And by the way, it's raining, as we saw just now. using the example of a spa, it is by no means equal have a good race. You can even spoil it rain race. It was a time when the wife had no power I haven't seen anything like these, what are they called, pallets yet were banned, the fact was banned. No, and yet, well, still, yes, there was one good race but overall they were not the most interesting. Unfortunately, everyone They spoke about this with great regret. AND I've personally seen several, uh, projects about how it could be rebuilt route. Some from just one, some from some other alternative sources. We discussed a lot of things. How close were we to this? Here you, who was right at the epicenter. And that's the whole point, that everything ended up on the highest highest level, uh, let's say, let's call it that, huh? And here they are looking it's up to us to decide. Well, either way It's a lot to spend here continue. Well, there was no need to spend a lot there. There listen, it was decent there. No, there is speech. there was talk about a global redesign, there was talk about O So, about deconstruction completely here this bridge. All Formula 1 fans, everyone, Anyone who has been to Sochi knows the bridge across which you need to move to get to paddock. This bridge is narrow, he is on it It's very difficult to get in if you're driving on tourist buses. And I'm not even talking about special equipment and so on. further. Therefore, for all match days, for example, in BLD, and BLD was then, as far as I remember, one of the few palaces, which completely belonged, well, not to the administration Krasnodar Krai, but whatever To the Krasnodar daughter, not an omega, in my opinion, even to the Ministry of Sports. On it Regular KHL matches were held. Yes, kakso. And every time everyone's brain exploded. And the security services, and the special services, and everyone in the world, because to stop by, it's impossible to leave, it's blocked impossible, but it’s already worth everything, that is There's nothing to block, everything is already a traffic jam. That is, from this point of view, of course The Sochi Autodrome was quite difficult place and a complex autodrome, which, Well, it was a big hindrance, a very big hindrance. A that's why the desire to take it apart is from a municipal point of view, from a point of view vision urbanistic was absolutely justified. And that's why reconstruction, that is, as soon as we started talking about reconstruction, as soon as we mentioned it about reconstruction, but let's do it here we will re-lay three asphalts, the people up there said, "No, guys, Let's do it, if we're going to construct it, let's do it like adults." We're like, "Okay, "like an adult." But we made a variant there in an adult manner, we were told: "It's a bit daunting." Well, that's interesting. Here. And I I think that was one of them too decisions to move the race to St. Petersburg, because that she would help untie this knot, because, well, with all that respect for Formula 1, it goes one once a year, and the palaces are used every day. And because, naturally, in addition to major sporting events, this is carriages, a small children's cart, youth and other social projects, These are sections, training. Well, that is, it is an object that uses daily. And when you are here You put up with it for the sake of Formula 1, uh, me I understand why why these decisions were made. They absolutely logical, justified. We have already partially talked about different ones, so to speak, the duties of a promoter, because from your previous answers here it became clear that, uh, challenges completely different. That is, with security officers to resolve issues, go to airport, meet the management Formula 1. I can tell you that here returning to the topic of the first emotion, So we were talking about bright ones, I I can tell you something good disappointment. So, when I realized that all happiness It's time I got involved in Formula 1. and my office is a race track, and what's in there? in the first office, when we were sitting in the office Ucklestone, which was later moved, you have the windows face out. My windows looked out onto starting line. Cool. And I'm like, "I'm going to ride every day. "autodrome". Yes. How many times do you think in 5 I've been working at the race track for years, I'm in sports did you drive by the author in the mode? I remember what we filmed together. transmission, including where you and I are queues for more or less sports The cars drove around the race track. So how? at least one Well, this is filming, this is filming. Oh, well, we were driving fast. There were just one or two of them and that's it. A that's why there is such a global disappointment, this is when you realize what you think, that you will be involved in motorsports, and motorsports is somewhere at the end, because of operation, accounting, lawyers, contracts. That is, in short, business is business, yes, he may be there, I don't know, produce and sell fertilizers, yes, and You can do racing. And you, by the way, will be laugh, but there was enough fertilizer high on the priority list because back in the distant year of fourteenth year a large quantity of very expensive palm trees, who are sitting, so, they had to be fertilized all the time, Yes? They need to be monitored. Palm, as it turned out, quite expensive pleasure. And not endemic, yes. That is, in Monaco also, as it turned out, them together with the casino they brought it in at the time. AND Yes, yes, yes, it's a difficult story. So, how did it turn out in the end? In Nagora easier. Birches, spruces, sosnache udobre. Нагоре в эту план на игоре п на игоре in this regard it's simpler. We don't have any there are organized flower beds, we have a large one the number of green spaces, lawns, bushes. They also need to be monitored. Well, with from the point of view of such specifics, then there is when something is really needed there buy something specific, don't care, such There is not. Very, very beautiful. And what about us? in essence, quite close to Karelia. And that's why every summer we have There are a few clearings that you can't miss touch them, they grow over very beautifully flowers, and you, that is, you in general you do nothing with the land. She looks like this, he's so beautiful, you know, meadow, well, a field like that. Very beautiful Russian field. Uh, all kinds of bumblebees, little bees They fly, buzz, and are very colorful. And here it is, By the way, it's interesting because while you I just answered, I wanted to ask one question, and then he decided that it was not a fact, that this is correct. Because from the point of view the view of the average person, and even the advanced one, like me, for example, yes, who even went to other race tracks, for some reason I It seems that logistically it's there It's a city, everything flies there, there's an airport literally just two steps away, and there is a mountain on which you have to saw for an hour from Peter, and It's probably harder for you there. And now I I suddenly remembered all of these things of yours there is a constant war there with the ice palace, with security guards here and there, and It's probably much easier for you to saw for an hour from Peter, but to be free myself plot and there is no one around. This is in first of all, probably not even just free plot. This is first and foremost is connected with the fact that a The Sochi Autodrome was a nuisance to everyone around it. Like this or otherwise. And Egor Drive was created for motorsports, and therefore it has The shareholders' task is to develop Egor Drive. And, accordingly, they told us: “Here you go Autodrome, please do it this way, so that people live here." Well, you also finished building there, I know, one sector, and a very beautiful one at that bankings. Of course, because the task is, Well, that is, when, actually, in In the twentieth year the first ones were there sketches on the topic of Formula 1 I had to move, and then there were a long negotiating session, and then the team Ours was partially divided, some of it went there quietly, quietly, sadly, there to Yegorovo advise the owl all sorts of advice that they are advice. But from this point of view, it’s probably already You weren't very happy, were you? It's warm here the sea, and there are the Korelian forests with mosquitoes. Listen, well, our position was quite simple. Inside it was technical. The first one, uh, we all understood that Igora Drive needs to be expanded a little bit for so that she is very comfortable Formula 1 was hosted because in all In other aspects, Igora Drive is nothing special. differs from the average. I mean now in the context of Here are the logistics data and here is the surrounding area. What is she conceptually different for you from SPA? Nothing. Nothing. How is it different from Hokenma? no Hokenma, any average European routes. It is something that is far away from cities. Well, relatively far from cities, but it is specialized. Here. But at least it is specialized, and you You can work on it the way you want as desired. And if we take it just right distance from the city, especially considering traffic jams, and the city Drive is generally damn close. It's 50 minutes away ring road. To go to Barcelona, Well, I don't remember, well, a lot, more than an hour. To Monza, eh, also more than an hour. And at Mons More parking jokes will start, because, excuse me, yes, if you like if you were a celestial being, you would have a club there, You are all well. If you are a private viewer, Dude, put on some comfortable shoes and go. on foot. Well, four kilometers for sure. Excuse me, Igora Drive. Here you are from here Novoprezerskoe Highway is going on, the territory City Drive. You are from Novoprezerka you move out, you come here, to this zone between the highway Novopriozerskoe highway and the autodrome. Although here we have, that is, simply there is a parking space there, I don't I know how many, tens of thousands cars. I crossed the tunnel, that's it, You are in the very heart of the race track. That is, with from this point of view we understood that Igor Drive is an absolutely unique place because that it will be possible to use and city ​​infrastructure, it will be possible It is absolutely easy to organize helicopter operations routes that would be just right for all the top ones eh, from all meanings of this, from all points this vision and pilots, and team leaders, and our most all privileged guests would They were transported by helicopters quite calmly. Here. And everyone else would go along roads, because it's even there the road network was quite convenient developed because there is old Priazerskoe highway, it's about kilometers away 12, before reaching the mountain, it branches off from Novopriozerki, and you would just have the opportunity to deliver what you need flows, technical staff. Well, relatively speaking, everyone who is connected with organizing the races, you would let old Priozerka, because they would then we carefully drove into the entrance, uh, which is necessary in order to get inside the pit. And the mass audience I would drive on a good, wide highway and I would have gotten there quite easily autodrome. Railway line October Railway. A Finland Station 55 minutes, you are ours ninth km/h. Well, not in the sense of another hour, and in total an hour. And you are in the village of Sosnova from the sixty-ninth km. If you are very If you really want to, you can walk. There You need to walk up the hill a little, there are 3 km to go from Sosnov. 6 km we are completely we could easily implement this task through creating free shuttles and that's it. What are we we are doing this now as part of the event our major events. Still, there is a different number of viewers there, Yes? Ah, listen, we just had this Garagefest, we had 35,000 spectators for 2 days in national motorsport, on national race. Rec 4 hours for a fee. Paid. Paid. 35,000 in 2 days. We visit in 2 days. At peak 21,000 man on the site on Saturday. And this is not at a concert. We are periodically very much loved there says it's all because of the concerts. I have photos of full stands on at the start of the race, at the finish of the race, demonstration races. 35,000 as 21,000 at peak is not a small amount. And there is a feeling that this is developing definitely. definitely and will develop without Formula 1 further or maybe and Formula 1 in some sense is just that more precisely, its absence and in general in principle the lack of international sport, it is in in some sense it became a strong turn development, because all of us, professional motorsports community, forced to look into themselves myself and as if to say: "Well, guys, we can, or here we are, well, only in language at and everything fell into place." We are now we understand that when, that is, there was as a short period when everything is already the contract has been approved, that is, we already have a letter of intent was signed, there is some a document that states that when compliance with FIA requirements there technical and there is Formula 1 related track organization, Formula 1 according to with the move to Iguru Drive, we have a list of work that needs to be done has appeared do. We have already started working on it. That We already have a pit there, one at the end of pit building, another at the end pit building. Maybe there is a main stand there? we are extending it, building new parking lots, we are building a city garden, we are making this one an extra kilometer, this loop. We already had everything ready, and we understood that this is development from the point of view international point of view. Naturally then I’m already sitting with Toto Jr., discussing in the ec. We're discussing the World Rallycross Championship stage of the World Rallycross Championship. Ae, Comrade Espilets in full force come to us to see our track in MotoGP section. We are having a wonderful time a place in local restaurants of the hero city Leningrad. Ah, and in general already too, Well, I can't say that everything is there. it's clear, but a number of agreements, a number documents have already been obtained. We understand, which way are we going, and even already We started discussing the World Cup, to carry out the stage, there is a need to think about how work with road closures. Because which, unlike the national stages, the World Championships are over, a long lease is quite normal. Yes. And there you can just afford to take it make the main landing in Igor, and then Everyone go to your Karelia and race there. as much as you want. That's what they do in Monaco. Rali Montecodes we now understand that if if all these agreements had been signed by Igor drive, she would have seen very little national series, because all the time teams, taking into account that the weather the conditions are still different, eh Leningrad region there simply wasn't any room for national sport there would be time. We, God willing, would have carried it out RCRS, we would, God willing, hold the RDSGP and, maybe we could have done a couple of track days, and the rest of the time we would have a track was built or rebuilt or was being prepared or transferred to one igni. By the way, right now somehow very well we are actively working on so that there are more of them. We have, basically, the focus has now shifted to how once amateur category e athletes. Well, not athletes, just amateur category, basically. drivers, because the pool is very important potential athletes as much as possible expand, and the only way to to expand is precisely to attract people to some much more basic ones competitions so that they can then looked up somewhere and realized that they want to go further. Therefore, the desire the desire to change everything one way or another In motorsport, it has always been present. That's why now is the most important thing for me great time. I'm doing it national motorsport. Development is progressing. Fine. That's where we just started you're talking about what a promoter does, right? O. We've figured out the danger, right? A logistics, logistics, customs, uh, food, Well, catering in general, in in principle, and the entire operating system, that is, this autodrome and during the race everyone calls you. Here everyone, naturally, everyone who you he knows, he believes that instead of to decide through the authorities, yes, it's easier much. I know Titov personally, yes, I do. I'll call him, he'll sort everything out. And I still have So non-stop is easy, right? Here you are you go and right there are people who consider it absolutely normal to call, ask for free tickets, in general with me personally, even without being acquainted. You get used to it pretty quickly. and it's easy to find ways, like, these sort people quickly. Very fast. Many people understand everything themselves, concerned, for example, free tickets and especially in Sochi, they always call there some representatives of some kind administrations, government agencies, and something else. And for any official, receiving something free of charge, well, for any inspection body will do this immediately the opportunity to work because you you are immediately accused of corruption corruption, as it were, and that's it ends. So as soon as someone calls administration representative or writes WhatsApp always works in 99% of cases. falls off with one simple phrase: "Please sew on the official letter." Well, that is, we are such and such, such and such from such and such, such and such there government agencies, we ask you for the purposes there social something or other send us some number of tickets. Here are 99, more than 99 Pono, probably just people fell off immediately. Here. And only those the administrations that are there, well, let's say so, the government agencies that wrote letters, here, here were those people, who actually wrote because they These tickets were needed for the solution specific and clear work tasks. Here. And we always list them all sorts of unpleasant stories that need to be told decide, I need this, I need that. And what? And nice ones what are the sides? The pilot arrives. But it’s not about the pilot they come, right? They are something like that a promoter somewhere. Who is this? No, no, for pilots the promoter is in general insignificantly. I had, Well, what's nice? I had one single run-in with pilots. I I was walking in the evening and was returning just after media day, met Lada Norris and Gasly. For some reason I decided to make a joke about them age. The joke turned out to be extremely awkward. They looked at me like I was an idiot: "Bye bro," I say, "Yeah, I'm not sure He went and said something stupid. Rave. Here. It's nice, Not right now, especially. Okay, not much. an adult so many years ago. Well, yes, that's nice. Listen, a lot is happening. funny, lots of funny, curious cases in the fourteenth year, but this It's not like all the stories are from my story now will be from me personally. This is now collective history. And in the fourteenth year, Ben Sloam, being then not an FIA functionary, but nevertheless not less important person in the world motorsports, came with great number of sheikhs from Abubia, Saudi Arabia Oh, from Abu Dhabi and Dubai. And they arrived to Sochi without visas. Yes. Nobody knows how they got released there. Here they are, they arrived, so beautiful, they have visas. they are not there. And they need visas to us. We need it for that the moment is needed. So, that means we received it visas for such different people. They happen curious cases. And in Formula 1 there is several different ticket levels. One of the top ones is, naturally, Padk Club. This is a VIP product, which is made by Formula 1 itself. National promoters never approached her have, well, almost nothing to do with exceptions. And there is no profit either Yes, we don’t make any profit from it either. But we changed that because in in the twentieth and twenty-first year we were the organizer of the pad club, collected for this a large amount of money. It was one of our achievements, because with financial point of view of the Russian Grand Prix It got better and better while we were here. How did you win it back from them? This sleight of hand and no fraud. There will be no other answer. Well, listen, well. it's just a negotiation process, which, uh, well, we came to representatives of the Agin formula were told: "Guys, well, that's how much, that's how much You sell tickets, well, that's just heh, Well, that's funny, how should they be? more." Why can't you sell? more? I don't know. How did you sell more? Address, They probably sent out a mailing or something? Well, Well, our marketers are cool. This is how they did it, what did they do? Here went out into the street and looked at who had it They offered him a more expensive car. in that number, well, that's among other things communications with banks. Question of sale anything is a question of quality search and targeted advertising and search for the audience you need. Oh. OK. Formula 1: I didn't know how to find it much more was sold this time Formula 1 didn't know how to find the rich people in Russia. And we a qualitative leap has occurred. And in the second year we doubled our sales of padaks club. In the second year, that is, this is ours the first year was the twentieth, he was limited due to covid. Twenty-first We doubled our club pad sales this year. nineteenth year. Well, they still have some are there design standards there or is it them? we brought our own, and you just Listen, as soon as you see how only you see Formula 1 from the inside, you you understand that all the standards doable if you know your job. What I meant by standards now is this physical things, exotic things. Did they pass them on to you or what? Well they, here you come in a container, You approach the gentleman from Olya and say: "Mario, brotherly, bring a couple display tires, we want to lodge ourselves put". This is the kind of micromanagement you do were you doing it? No, it's not me personally, it's a question now teams as a whole. We all have a lot different roles, so when it works out, When a task comes in, what, guys, Now we are organizing the pad club, and what do we need this for this? And we need 1 2 3 4 5 You have one person on your team, well, Listen, we have a treasure trove of people. which Formula 1 employees and teams, well, they know, well, they correspond there, congratulate each other on their days births and so on. Therefore, that is, like this on a human level, then you you saw it out, in the end it's simple People came, ate, drank. But with It's more difficult for Formula 1 teams there, Truth? Uh, well, it was always different there. us. Well, well, tell me how it is with whom. just who's the Picky one, Ferrari, for example, or Red Bull or MacLan, who of them or maybe some of them suddenly, what an unexpectedly modest team, On the contrary, the hall there is Swiss. No no no. Ferrari stood out the most. The first ones, I think they've been around for three or four years They were carrying all the sanctioned products diplomatic mail. A truck arrived in Marnelo, refrigerator. That's where they loaded their stuff. coffee capsules with salts. mortadella, everything related to this, parmesans, so, all these cheeses that were in Sukhumi at the market later, right? I wasn't standing there running away, I wouldn't be surprised. This form, this truck started from Moronel, arrived at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Italy, then the post office was loaded, went to Russia, then further on I came to Sochi in diplomatic numbers. Yes, yes, Yes, it was, it was. Here. Ah, listen, Well, there's a lot of stuff going on with Kado. everything, but it is so enough technical, quite boring, but there, you know, there are people who appear there there: "And we should have water here only in glass." Okay, we'll do it. then water only in glass. And why her? so cheap? Well, because in our country In Russia, glass water is cheaper than water in plastic. Well, that's how it happened. You You're probably selling bad water. Well then There are such things, but this Quite boring. We remembered about the pad club because that at first the organization of the padklu The club was managed by the company Doko. this is, well, one of the world leaders in VIP catering. And this is kind of the key, the main contractor of Formula 1 in general, in In principle, at all the Grand Prix they are everywhere Some companies go there. They have uh, the headquarters is in Turkey, but they in general they are the world leader there, they a very large number of aircraft supply food, airlines, and so on. At some point we have - So, my colleagues are on the second floor. they understand that for some reason it is leaking. They go up to the third to the third I'm going to the box, which means to the box on the third floor. What does pit building look like? You're doing well boxes in which the guests sit, and between each lodge has a small technical a zone called the pre-cooking zone. Uh-huh. Naturally, there's a lot of people hanging out in this prep room, Well, figuratively speaking, the staff is hanging out, associated with the maintenance of this horse. This The waiters are called pre-cooked because that, yes, a special one is being installed equipment related to the place where we will bring it. Here here they heat it up and serve it in in its final form. And, naturally, in this There is a staff restroom in the area. Yes. So, some cook decided to finish it Waiter, where is this for the state of well? done and in a fit of passion broke the tap, just rolled it up. But only instead in order to somehow finish my action, he realized that, well, it’s not good, as they say, leave the girl in medium or mediumre mode, the matter needs to be addressed bring to the end. And while they, like They say they were doing their job, water kept flowing, flowing, flowing. There it leaked some catastrophic amount water, all of this leaked onto the second floor, ran, rescued. These are the ones we had good cases. Here This is the most interesting thing. I think, What if I was still in the Formula 1 team? somewhere this would happen, I'm very sure that they will one way or another they are doing this. Just outside the perimeter, outside the perimeter of the race track. Is there anything to tell about the perimeter? It’s not clear about the perimeter of the circuit. It is possible to capture the air perimeter. U We have very good ones, this is already this is already I am personally directly involved in this participated. So, the first crash eighteenth year and I'm already in personnel I told you it was really like that a real slob. And it's very funny it was in the twenty-first year, uh, in quotation marks. So, well, somewhere in 2 weeks Dinlock calls before the race. Dinlok is Head of F1 Broadcast. This is a dude, which is responsible for the entire broadcast on the whole world. He goes to almost every Grand Prix. Awesome guy, big fan motorsports, he himself is involved in motocross. Well, in general, he's just a great guy. calls and says: "Listen, we have problem, we hope you can help us help. We have a hitch here helicopter, with which with the company, with which we usually work. We're like They found a replacement, brought everything, everything We set it up, but we have a problem, there is no camera box." Well, like, that is, the camera is catching you, that is, First of all, I think there is something there equipment right on the bottom of the helicopter and on a healthy ball is also hanging on the nose, here the one that actually does it directly by shooting. the operator is sitting inside, controls the camera in different ways sides, and it is closed with a special carbon aerodynamic box to reduce vibrations no, they didn't spoil the picture, and the helicopter didn't spoiled. Well, in general, to be it's safe, here need to find the box. I say: "Well, just wait, I'll go into your garage with unnecessary things supplies for filming, aerial photography, and that’s it they will bring it to you. Everything will be fine." No question. And somehow we find it within a week means a wonderful company called H Action. These are the guys who work throughout the North Caucasus region. They they are just doing it professionally, then They have their own fleet of aircraft, and The aircraft fleet is quite modern. And they are engaged in They have rescue operations, tourism, and all sorts of helicopters, then, dedicated to the heli, heliboard, that is when you are simply lifted to some height, and you roll down like a savage. Here. And wonderful, wonderful guys. So, I was introduced to a person by named Arseny. Arseniy, if you are us listen, I'm passing you on to a huge Hello. Unfortunately, I never learned it your last name. I still have it in The phone says Arseniy collect. Here. Oh yeah, what kind of box is that? And here's to us just by a lucky coincidence circumstances they have a shooting helicopter. Well, it's not a filming helicopter, They seem to have the same model helicopter. It is equipped with more or less the same equipment. They have this box. I I say: "Listen, please, I'm telling you Please send it. They send, they have a base, in my opinion, somewhere in Stavropol." Well, that is, In short, they have a base on that side ridge. They are sent by car to us Sochi. I'm happy, I'm calling, we're already there We were looking for this for a week. That is, it’s like there Friday or Saturday is already before the Grand Prix. Well, in a week for 10 days. I call Dean and say: "Dean, that's it, I'm done with you ... I brought it, everything is there. On Monday We meet your helicopter, secure it, that's all "Okay." Here's a helicopter on Monday Formula 1 is not arriving. No, it's ringing. Should it move on its own? Well, no, well, he comes to half-disassembled to somewhere there and then later he flies to Sochi. A, which means again it's not a helicopter Formula 1 is their permanent contractor. Well, that's clear, with which they work systematically in Russia. And it's not Yes, yes, it is that is, they are each different orders. This is not the fact that they have their own helicopter, which they transport all over the world, as history later showed, then, they don't have their own, that is, this is this a permanent contractor with whom they work because, as we then in We learned during the filming of the Grand Prix Russia, the Grand Prix in principle of any helicopter, there is a very large number specifics. In short, it's Monday. I can guess how it is with you still nearby the airport, yes, you probably can't fly there. This is just a limitation, uh, that means it's just a flight restriction baby talk compared to everything other technical nuances that there is. Dean calls and says, "You know, bro, there won't be a helicopter, but you have one there "Can't you find a helicopter?" I say, "Dean, I'm going to look in mine now. garage. I just happen to have this unnecessary one a helicopter especially for you. At this moment I call Arseny, and you, You can probably already imagine, Dear presenters. And you, Alexey, Arseny's surprise when Arseny speaks, Listen, do you have a helicopter by any chance? there will be no free time for filming. For short Thank you. Here, as they say, I'm filming a hat, but we would also like a helicopter. Here, uh, By the will and fate of the people, we were very lucky. IN at this moment we actually get acquainted with Alexander Marvich Chumak. This is m I I understand that one of the owners of uh this wonderful company. He is an ex a big boss of Rosaviatsiya, a top one man. If you can hear us, Alexander, I I send my best regards to you too. A their helicopter arrives, uh, in a hurry there are cameras mounted somehow, all of this the case is being collected. Oh, and then we go on We understand, well, two things. First, Hille action helicopter, which arrived, they have this specific model, which is comparable to what is used Formula 1, but not prepared for filming. His legs are too low, eh, that's why she can't sit with attachments. Here. OK. And the night itself is like this looks at the concrete blocks that used in sports safety, and they say: "Listen, "Can I have four of these?" Yes, no question. We built two like this strips of concrete blocks, and we have 3 days the helicopter landed on concrete blocks, a place to just sit on asphalt. It was action-packed. And then we Let's find out the next problem. First. Pilot The helicopter does not speak English. Yeah. The Formula 1 cameraman does not speak Russian. And even they can't find the operator, who speaks Russian. And we we understand that now the problem is to bring them together, because, as it turned out, in the process there is a catastrophic amount of filming very specific instructions, like fly to point six. And point six - it's not easy some point in the air, this is the point where you need special way to fly up at the right angle with the right speed, and then either to hang or not to hang. That is for example, I don't remember how she It happens, I won't lie, but here so to speak, that opening body the TV shot we all see when present the Formula 1 Russian Grand Prix, this raid on the Olympic Park, this is a raid that has a specific instructions, and in this instruction it is written down at what speed this raid will take place should happen, at what angle and and so on, and so on, and so on. That there is, accordingly, when you have folding crew, everything happens very, very quickly and clearly, because If you've been working there together for a long time, you you tell him that you need to fly to point 12, so you and the pilot know what's going on to do this. I suspect that with the development now drones are probably a little easier and probably, but I don't think that Formula 1 shoots with drones because there is no direct route because I I read that they are afraid of dropping it stands. I'm sure the problem isn't even as many in the stands as, in principle, in the problem of loss of communication. Because after all, a helicopter is mechanical remedy, and even if you lose it connection and you can't show the picture, Yes. helicopter Well, it won't just fall out on its own, like they say, from the sky. Here. And therefore our valiant operations officer department Marina Akishina ee flew and translated. It all started with what we said: "Marin, go to F1 Broadcast, you need to sit down and translate to the pilot so that he knows some key instructions". Yes. Well, naturally, they are very fast realized that it was all a dog's doing. Marina they land the helicopter, and our beautiful Marina Okishina is flying for the first time in her life just by helicopter, but on the broadcast in Formula 1 helicopter. And so that you understood, there to carry out all these instructions, these are the ones, this is an hour American peas. OK. So, in general, she survived this hour. Therefore, dear viewers, Lesha, if you you will be keeping an eye on the Grand Prix recordings twenty-first year, know that everything related to air personnel, this is our immediate Job. And specifically Marina Okishina, who was scared to death by her first life by flying in a helicopter. How much of this kind is there anyway? There are so many things planned that need to be done. to do, that's clear, it's a wagon a small cart, but how much unplanned arises right out of nowhere on the move? The water leaked and they arrested it at customs. team property. We had we had customs stories with double bass, with smuggling of merch. We have some the moment is just beginning at the Ministry of Internal Affairs there is a fierce panic among customs officials because at some point, well, that is, Of course, Formula 1 is not only about beauty and life, this is, among other things, the presence of a large number international regulations that need to be to perform, including large ones the number of laws of the Russian Federation, which they must fulfill the formula. Naturally, it's like an eternal game of co in a cat and mouse game. U and we have inspectors here who came to Olympic Park, entering a store So, they get a check, and everything is on the check foreign. And there's an address there like Belgium or Holland. That is there just cash from the cash register paid cards go somewhere completely another country, without paying, of course, no taxes there and so on. Here then several employees The Federal Customs Service and inspection bodies have hung themselves medals, because, naturally, that's all was discovered in time and arrested and powerfully taken out, inserted into everything. That there, everything was just like in real life, that's why there was customs. And they happen wagons, a small cart, everything. And here it is It is precisely with the process of time that you begin much simpler, well, I just started it's much easier to relate to this, and calmer, because here is the twentieth the year of Covid, ah, it was just madhouse because, Naturally, everyone was afraid of fire, no God willing, everyone will get infected, uh. Tests, you all remember these queues day, it was a never-ending story. Well, well, I still didn’t know it then. everyone understood that it was not necessary pierce the skull. cranium. Box head of the skull heads Yes cranium. Box In short, we had two employees back then DHL. Oh, by the way, The guys from DHche stole from us once forklift. Two people were riding on it. days, I need to find the street. Uh, these, what are they called, oh my god, I forgot how the company It's called. These are the Hungarians who They are busy pasting the entire race track. I Understood. Yes, yes, yes. So, here on one of these areles, which hang beautifully over the highway advertising, at some point we were like on Friday before the start of the first training sessions it's an hour there, I'm like: saw pilerli, How did it turn out for you, Pilerli? They just Well, that's how they paint everything there already. swapped. This also happened. Two the employee of the wild one, some kind of team, one of the managers is already a doctor such a higher-ranking one. Their, In short, everyone was caught with Covid. Well, no. They caught it and they just upvoted it further without any at all warnings include all the cruelty Rospotrebnadzor and our system Ministry of Health. They are all packed into one ambulance. help with suitcases. And this is the very thing thirteenth infectious diseases department the city of Sochi looks exactly like you imagine it. Yes, I understand already. Yes. And, uh, we have I received calls from the Ministry Foreign Affairs with an appeal employees that they are called from there is the British embassy, ​​from Italian Embassy with questions: "What are we doing with their citizens?" I He said: "It's okay, the Ministry of Health is treating them." And everything was like that. We got them out later from there at night, uh, to place them in in others in other hotels. There we are I was very lucky in terms of what happened None of the patients were symptomatic. Uh, that is, everyone was, well, someone had there was a temperature, well, that is, none no hard stuff, none of these coughs, sneezes, farts, there was no one, glory be to God to God. They were taken out at night. And Marina Dolbilina, my assistant, actually, I went there under cover of night to see them there In general, am I mistaken or was it the only non-European Grand Prix? I don't remember, but there were a few of them. In 2020 we were one of a few. Firstly, in the twentieth year, in basically, there were like 10 or something There were 12 races. No, noonies are not the point. They started in July, Yes. There were two Austrias, two Englands. I just to this, that it is so compact everything was done, and all the overseas stages merged, Yes, and only us. Well, at least we are formal Europe, but I mean container transportation, yes, not trucks. Only this is almost the only thing where Did you have any questions at all or not? Or did you say from the very beginning: "No, we "We'll do it." And it doesn't matter at all. Listen, everyone was sitting there for a very long time. thought How to carry out all this. Was it was decided that a little bit was needed wait and see how it goes look like the process of other world racing and will you develop any protocols. And this concerned both the conduct both the Grand Prix itself and the protocols interactions within the country related to, related to covid because, well, how at the beginning of the year everyone would have been stunned a dusty bag on the head. Here. And for us, conceptually, in principle, lucky we were late enough in standard Formula 1 calendar, so we had some quiet time wait and see what's what, take aim, organize. Well, here it is conducted. Since we started talking a little bit about commercial component, always very Interesting. I had a feeling that Well, uh, the poor organizers, they really they only lose because all the most interesting pieces, that's what we said subclub, but this, as I understand it, is an account advertising around the highway, yes, and also some kind of interactions there. All for myself the formula takes away a little bit He also takes a percentage of regular tickets formula for yourself, and then you give her these millions for the right to host the Grand Prix pay. You won't get anything from television. gets it. And, in short, that is all in minus. A if there is a state that wants, and yes or one rich sponsor, Look, you can't do that here. consider Formula 1, especially even Formula 1 of that time, and even more so Formula 1 now, it's not in any case cannot be considered from the point of view of, but such clear economic balance or business project of a specific legal entity. And I am in no way saying that the face it was unprofitable, but Formula 1 is a thing, It is much wider. And it is very important economic effect of presence here such a race in your city, region, it doesn't matter where it is present. And the economic effect of Formula 1 from a tax perspective for the region, from the point of view of the influx of investments into it, attention and so on. He is colossal. Who did you count? Did anyone count this? And in our country, Price Water House calculated this. Coopers. which are probably now banned or there would be agents, or either left, or something else. Here. And the economic effect from holding the race in the twentieth year, in the nineteenth year at the level of 4 billion rubles. And the conduct Russian Grand Prix of 21st year, twentieth year, nineteenth day- the twentieth of the month we analyzed, nineteen, 4 billion rubles Twentieth 4.6 billion rubles This is additionally what the region is conditionally collected restaurants, hotels, right? This economic effect of the arrival of Formula- 1, because everything is calculated not only by means that, uh, the promoter in in this case, the acceleration pays in Formula 1, it's still there too the money we spend is added to organize within the country, because we are inside the country too We spend a lot, and this is economic effect. We attract a large number of ticket revenue, which is also a plus for the economy. Appears positive tax, tourism effect, because a lot of people come people who would otherwise They might not have come to Sochi. It's just, well, They don't want to appear here motivation. And a very important factor specifically in Sochi, which played a role because it was a resort capital, a large number of people they didn't just come to the Grand Prix, they they came, they took a vacation from work and came there for 2 weeks, and they lived in region, traveled, spent their means. And Sochi is already in the fourteenth or fifteenth year was not the cheapest resort, and it continues to rise in price. That's why this one the economic effect is much broader, but at the same time, even within our We don't care about organizational history they managed to scrape out some for themselves there certain advantages, because with us there was a change related to sponsorship packages, because, yes, As you rightly noted, here we are before we pay Formula 1 as a promoter right holding the race, and the sponsorship package there is no right to this. That is, the money, which we attract from outside, We essentially can't attract them. We should send them to Formula 1 and she there she continues to unstick herself. We said, "No, guys, let's do it this way. If you want that much money from us, here you go some of these bucks will be covered by account of what you give us sponsorship the package we sell." Well, we, of course, him, actually, sold by various companies. What do they leave behind anyway? Here legacy, no matter how loud it is, that Formula left for you. Like this. Formula 1 was left to us. Well, it's rent, This is the relationship with the teams. On teams earn a lot of money. So they paid you for these houses? Of course, of course. Teams pay for a bunch services, uh, during your presence. Each in their own way. It's strange that F1 doesn't centralise this. I I was sure that they were doing everything right. Very logical. This is very important, because Bernie said, "Guys, here's this is mine, Yes, "Here's a circus with the Germans for you." Yes. Beep-beep-beep. That's all. Here it is just from the point from the point of view of some kind of business ideology It's quite logical, because uh, position FOM. You pay me this, and I give you this This. Here is your ticket. equally they pay. You definitely have every team spends different amounts of money, but there is a basic set of services from which they do not will run away. Well, it's just physical. impossible. You can't live without rent. boxes. Yes. The cost of this box rental. And they also rent boxes. Come on, Certainly. Good evening. I am a dispatcher. Of course they rent, and for foreign currency. Well, it's clear that yes, but and damn expensive. That is, that is There is a team receiving from Liberty the money there is television, which is its own piece of pie. But from this money They not only transport their staff and organize a show teams, cars, yes, all the equipment, containers, buy tickets to the pad club if they they want. If you remember, They also pay the organizer of each race. for the rental of boxes, autodrome services. Autodrome services and pay rent for the house. Some They buy it and go and buy it for themselves you do. Someone is going to the doko. No, wait. Means, they do it themselves. Well, many teams have their own cook. There may be many teams there there are as many cooks as you want, but catering is not for them it is necessary anyway. And the waiters, and staff, bartenders, that's also part of it catering. Do you have teams that they take everything with them, and there are uh, more simple people who they say: "Listen, here, come on, so that we don't get poisoned, here we are happy." Those teams that poorer. Here you go, you give it to them Laluna straighten. Well, I'm just joking and joking. Laluna. No, I have respect for Laluni in this. Wonderful place. Wonderful. Well, I wasn't ashamed, unlike many other canteens. No shame. Tickets. Here are the tickets. Not a padclub. Ordinary tickets for the regular stand. Yes. The man bought it at a high price. 100% yours. They They don't take anything for themselves. Nothing. Ah, well, that means something after all. No, no, of course, of course. I'm telling you, there is a certain balance and logic in this There is. But Were you forced to hand out tickets? more, so it looks simply beautiful picture so there's more of it on Friday were there people in the stands? No. Formula 1 doesn't force anyone hand out tickets. Of course, for everyone one way or another, there is a risk of empty spaces on stands. A We fought this with the quality of the organization events and understanding that people had a very clear value from attending the Sochi Grand Prix to they understood why they were here and why not in any other They need to go to another country. Here among just like that, conditionally invited people who are for the first time for years they didn't understand what they were doing here, and many fans were upset, seeing that after the start some people got up and left. Can you imagine how offensive it was? people, who have been there for the second year, third year organizations, right? Can you imagine how they feel? It's a shame. You came, you bought a ticket for the main stand for about 20,000. Well, well 20,000 20,000 at that time a lot of money. And there's a guy sitting here next to you, well or or girl, which obviously didn't buy this ticket, They don't understand anything, they don't understand anything. And 5 minutes after the start they get up and they leave. So you want to come back to this later? event? Probably not. Here, that is, that is, not only are the shadows they came back, but these guys also have this it did beat off. Well, of course, we actually broke it. downward trend. That is, as if by the end of the seventeenth year revenue and ticket sales of the Grand Prix every year they became lower and lower and below. Well, the spectacular one passed. In China, for example, it was downright monstrous. That there are the first Grand Prix in Shanghai, there was 200,000 in the stands, in the second there were 40. Here you go. Then the eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth, twenty first. Eighteenth, nineteenth, then there was the eighteenth one that was the lowest, the lowest point, then the nineteenth higher, and then the twentieth was even higher precisely from the sales point of view. Here. A nineteenth, twentieth from the point of view sales were equalized because then there were Covid restrictions. But from the point of view our revenue has been growing every year, because we sold more, at a higher price and and so on. Okay, to sum this up the whole story, Alexey Titov before the Grand Prix In Russia he was involved in our motorsports, After the Russian Grand Prix he has been working on our motorsports. Yes. Is there any development in our motorsports? You already answered me with an example. Garagefest, that is. What next? What's up? you personally? Now I'm not talking about ours even motorsports. Working on yourself, developing festival stories, because of the festival format He is very important. he, uh, adds entertainment, but I don't mean that it's not a festival in the sense that it's a sport elements of the festival. Well, you have all sorts of raps there, yes, techno, That's all. You will have metal. Well, you know mine phone, if you suddenly decide to, yes, suddenly, if suddenly you and I are absolutely in solidarity, suddenly if suddenly suddenly if you If you decide to do so, please write to me. I'll come. There is only one the metal band that you and I are waiting for Russia more reasonable. Oh well, I'll tell you more about Are. It's even better for the will, Yes. Here. And therefore Metal is a must, I I hope it comes back sooner or later on Egor, including. Fine. Here. I used the podcast for personal purposes, You see, friends, I found out. For me personally, the development of motorsports now is to try to increase that, what is there. Eh, there is already very, very, very A little. Force, very much, I ask. forgiveness, there is a lot to understand and convey to the athletes, why should they to perform here. in Russia, not abroad. Yes. And this is very complex and very hard work for all promoters, who are currently working in the area Russian Federation and are engaged in motorsport professionally because even now a national athlete a certain level stands before choice, he has to spend money here motorsport or something. Yes, even now this choice exists. Here. And just so, if earlier, uh, from a media point of view or from there were some other points of view, these were Here Formula 1 and there were some big ones eclipses that could allow everyone national promoters to relax and think: "Well, my God, it's clear what's going on there, what, what is everything there, everything, everything there here nothing." Now there is none of that. Now There are no major events within the country. A couple of years ago I thought that drifting was The ring defeats us. Straight straight Drift still wins the ring. Yes. The ring has not begun to straighten out. WITH from the participants' point of view, maybe yes, from the point of view of working with the public, so far No. And the number of people in the stands. The number of people in the stands, uh, if take the average ring competition, that is, we do not take targeted events, and let's take this some average cross-section of the market, middle cut ah, the drift is much higher. We are not doing it, Well, almost nothing We are selling 3,000 tickets for our regional drift championship, on Egor Driй, and Egor Drive Drif Challenge. Tickets are sold in batches of 2-3,000. Exactly neonal meaning Leningradskaya is sold region. Regional in the sense that this is not RDSGP, This is not a volunteer with the top ones. athletes who won the cup peace. But they are not on pennies, they are on something, of course, a little faster, but These are not just the gods of the world drifters who defeated the Japanese, Americans there in the sixteenth or seventeenth year. This is not the best level of sports. in the world. This is normal, well, you can say what a yard championship is. But the drift and the ring, I even like this, How can I say this if there is still confrontation, Yes? And I can tell you what it is like now the most important difference between drifting, ring and in this sense, everyone in general classical disciplines. Drift now uh, it's developing both in Russia and abroad it is precisely according to the American system in that in the sense that the first sight is very important. And secondly, if a person drove onto nightstand, then no one will be able to remove it from there Maybe. no paper, no decision, no politics, everything is a picture, a photograph, Cup, go. If later even cash began to be cancelled again, and this is sadness. Agree. Here in our especially official ring. Well, well, well, you win. Well, half an hour. I have half an hour for this very thing complain. Has anyone complained? the sting went away. They dismantle it in 3 hours. Then they take it apart for 3 hours and, therefore, then why don't you go far? Ringnlay from last season. There the dispersal lasted almost until New Year. It's even for him, in my opinion. gone. Well, how, how do you want to hold on? spectators in the stands, if you yourself do not believe in what you do if racing You are not arranging live ones, but paper ones. Well, and here's Rofi, you're still doing all this role-playing raids? Ha-ha. I became Chairman of the Roller Raid Committee Besides, I have a whole list now functional regalia. And how do you get people interested? This is this It's very difficult now. This part is just a prologue, you can to carry out that part of it. AND Now the main task for us is rally - this is to increase significantly the number of athletes who are engaged in discipline. Because the main problem with role-playing is here and now it's the lack of athletes, because you don't have one now relatively affordable format. Well, at least they could ride quads, I don’t know. Everyone has quads. Quads too specially prepared quad. This too Try it on a civilian ATV. drive off-road for an hour in combat gear mode. I won't go on any of them. It is people before you in the sense that in the category, Let's say, in the raid sport category, I now, with all the regulations, guys, no Don't be angry with me, brothers, I beg you. You're in the ATV category, you're in category T3, in the sport category, and in category T2 you can with relatively, Well, let's say, average physical prepare to perform normally. On quadricycle s, unless you're a super athlete, you will crash and die. All. This is all, What do you have? Fine. And the last question then. You Are you just going to manage or there's still some gunpowder in the powder flasks there? shake something, get out there somewhere. I tried, I had several attempts leave. I went last year The Russian Rally Championship rolled out. No sporting success there, naturally, there wasn't, because it was there was a trial run. I judged mine performance on the ring road, because we started nineteenth, finished seventeenth, so everyone got off, There are probably others there. No, done. A That's why it's more difficult here for now. I understand, that rally raids are still very difficult, because they take a lot of time physically. which I don't have because that there is a lot of work. I realized that I would take it slow immerse yourself in those disciplines that there is one at the race track. And so I begin slowly roll out the ring until In the time-lapse mode, you have a hidden mode. good good. Of course, we went through it last year twenty-four-hour marathon race consisting of the same crazy people, like me, and took the valiant last place. Well, you're just heavy. You are heavy big. I was driving, I was driving. In short, at that moment I weighed 100 50-19, You know? And I was first on everyone's list pilots. Do you know how much the second one weighed? place by weight? Second place. Well, 100, Maybe, second, Yes? So, in short, everything there has to do with me. I was also thinking that there are some like that, at least I can't hang them up Do you understand that 80 won't fit on the card? physically. You can hang them up there, but there weight limit. In short, the story there was that of these seventy it was possible reduce weight by only 10 kg. That is The 60 kg difference has always been with me. A I'm at the minimum weight according to the regulations now I don't remember. I'm an athlete with a kart now I won't even lie. Here. But I I was losing there for about 5 seconds circle. And as if And how long is the circle? Uh, 1,200 m. Here. You have your own there. This is our rental also with a difference in height? Yes. We have a very good bridge. Beautiful. That is good karting, you can come any day and go for a ride. Yes, absolutely. Karting is open. What am I going to do? Uh, karting works, uh, well, in twenty-four-hour race in general 24 hours a day. And this is how we work almost all year round. Our go-kart track, uh, I would said that he is the most active site us among all the centers. And in essence it only closes on somewhere around a week, probably, technical week in autumn, preparation for winter and, accordingly, in the spring preparations for summer. We work without paying attention during the winter periods, We work without paying attention during the summer periods. In winter an additional site is being added the ice on which we hang these maps on spikes. And here you can drive karts, on rolling, on spikes, because on the main route is only on Velcro there The asphalt is good after all. Zha. A Now the very last question, which must be answered in one word and which has nothing to do with our conversation today in general. So, who will be the world champion this year Formula 1? Oh, ae. I really want, I want to see the return Lucy in Lucy in Ferrari. Well, I understand, what this year. Okay, this year this year. Well, I think it will be among designers, well, it seems to me that's already there will be McLaren because they are so very They drive confidently. Well, they are driving confidently. What politician, sir? In terms of? Well, because it's obvious. The pilot who will be the world champion in this year in Formula 1. One Last name, I don't care. Noris. Let there will be Noris. Guys, hi. Nikita Filatov is on the line. I was in America in the spring and saw a record Ovechkin with his own eyes. And what records? Have you seen Formula 1 live? I haven't seen any in real life, but there is one the record that belongs to us is Kimi To Raikanin. This is a speed record that He placed 349 at the Sochi Autodrome km/h, I think, on the starting straight. But I didn't see him in person. And I haven't seen anything at all in real life, because I always sat in commentator's booth. But on the other hand, over the past 35 years everything the records that were during this time, I I saw everything formally. Yes, I'm somewhere nearby was present. Alexey Titov was our guest. Formula of the first First Red Funbet. Subscribe to the channel.