Tea with Bublik: Sergey Minayev

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I'm so tired, I can't just go out anywhere. Dude, there were a lot of factories in Russia back then , but now I have nothing to say in books . I work more than on the court. Let's talk about Minaev's blog. Pure lies and nonsense. Tennis is easier to play. My area of ​​responsibility is smaller. Listen, what's the best part about tennis? I'll tell you if you don't know. And they say such correct things and write such correct mmsens, but it’s such crap. People try so hard to appear to be this ideal version. Dude, you did [ __ ]. Why do you hurt and insult me ​​with these words? I'm 28. I like to grumble too. Now I want to tell you a really terrible secret. For the first time in my life. Hi all. My name is Alexander Bublik and this is the show Tea with a Bublik. Since I'm a newbie, Sergey Minaev will help me today . Sergey, hello. Hello, friends. Hello. I'll be happy to help. I've always been interested in the work of a journalist and a writer; they're two completely different things, right? Because you write, when we discussed this, you write books, you told me in silence, in Spain. Please tell me what writing a book involves and how you get inspired. I haven't written any books for a long time, well, basically, yes, I have n't written any books for a long time, because, well, at one time, screenwriting work broke me. As one of my acquaintances said, he was tempted by the high fees. The thing is, uh, I started writing movie scripts. Yes. And this is a big temptation for a person who works with text, because mm, in the past, when I wrote books, I went away for the summer, that is, to Spain, sat for two months, and did nothing else. I didn't have a blog, I had nothing. I had a TV, on which I broadcast political news on NTV. I had a summer break and I wasn't busy with anything at all, I was left to my own devices . Then YouTube appeared, but before that, screenwriting appeared. For someone who works with text, this is a great temptation, because your characters will come to life. You wrote a book, as if you were writing it, right? And here you clearly know that what you wrote will turn into a living picture. People will come and talk, which means you can already imagine, perhaps, what kind of actor he will be, and so on and so forth. Writing a screenplay is, well, basically faster than writing a book, more interesting. And in this sense, I, mm, well, I, of course, don’t dare say such a thing about myself, but we see that recently TV series have replaced literature, not only because it’s easier, but, well, the level of big big TV series, like The Heirs, and Madman, and The Sapra Clan, and that same one in the big city, these are big novels that have come to life, that have complex dramaturgies, that are interesting to watch and, well, I don’t know about you, you probably didn’t have that in your childhood . I had it there, you read the book The Three Musketeers and think: “Well, I should watch a movie about them, right?” Well, the film had already come out at that point, and now you already understand that you don’t need to imagine anything, it’s there. How long does it take, for example, to write a script for a film or a TV series? 10 episodes of the series that I am writing together with my co-author Dima Minaev. He is not a relative, that is also a funny story in itself. Did you search specifically? It's funny, you know. I came up with the idea of ​​a gold mine in the willow, and they said: “Cool, listen, this is a good idea, let’s implement it right away.” How do such ideas come about? Here's a gold mine, chicks, all that stuff, it's very interesting. Yes, yes . Now from the question. I won't jump around to the question . So, one of my older friends told me about the gold mine, he said: “I’m going to retire, I’m 70 years old, I’m passing on the business to my children from different marriages.” Of course, they are all more or less not Nobel laureates. And that's it, they'll screw it up, to put it mildly. I don't know what to do. Then they told me a story about a company where the founder died, and immediately the partners and children began to get into a clinch. And from this, from my own ideas, I put together a story. I came to the Ivi platform and said, "Here's an idea." She says: “Cool, listen, well, we need to launch it next year.” I say, I can’t launch this next year, write it, or rather, because I have a commitment there for another project, I need a co-author. And they give me, then, the company, the first company that produced this series, the Sreda company, and Vanya Samokhvalova. And Vanya says: "Listen, I have a co-author for you. Well, just don't laugh. It's Dima, last name Minaev." I say, "Are you kidding me or something?" I say: "Is this like a special setup or something?" He says: "No, well, that's really how it happened." And here he is, neither a relative nor a brother, nor a bridegroom. And we are already writing our fifth series together. That is, we immediately got along well. That 's why all ideas come from street conversations. I did n’t take anything, not a single one of my ideas. Well, it all comes as it were. So we were sitting there today , having breakfast, he said something and it seemed like it could start working right away. You started telling me about tennis today. Well, it’s fantastic that people who, well, who have such a tight schedule, where they have to have sneakers here , bagels, so to speak, lying there, and tea here. And this, well, this is a hero, I can’t think of him. But you somehow lived through most of this , because we communicated with you . You told me what I saw personally in the series Number One, that the main character is very similar to you, since I know your story a little, I studied, watched, and I was very interested to learn about it. So it turns out that most of your scripts and series are somehow connected to elements of your life. Some life situations that you yourself have experienced, and you embody them on paper, and then the series begins. Listen, well, basically, I don’t remember who said that anyone can write their first book, because any writer, if you take any story, almost everyone, almost every writer wrote their first book about themselves, about some of their experiences, because that’s what we know, it’s a story that was given to us, it’s nothing, like, it wasn’t made up, it happened to us. Well , listen, I, of course, try to write stories where I can put myself in the place of the main character. I can live through this because I understand how businessmen live, I understand how bloggers and journalists live. I can't write a series about the head of a mining brigade, because I've never been in a mining aisle . And what I write will be crap, it will be a complete lie. And that's why when I see TV series where Why are we talking, it doesn't work, this series, because, well, if a brick falls on your foot, you hardly say: "What a shame, my God, how unpleasant." You say: "[ __ ], this is totally [ __ ] up ." Yes. And as soon as this point of lying begins, the whole plot falls apart. That's why I write, of course, about pain to myself, about what I know. In which of the TV series written based on your script is the main character most similar to you? Well, probably the first issue has the most. Yes. This is probably my favorite of all the things I've written recently. So you said that a writer writes his first book about himself. What was your first book? Say almost not a spirit. Dukhlis. The first book. I wrote about a middle manager, who is starting to earn his first money, who... Well, I need to give you the context, yes, 2007, you are 10 years old, you have a slightly different context at that moment, to put it mildly. I have another one, yes, here in Moscow it’s boiling, St. Petersburg is boiling too. At this moment, night clubs and boutiques open, and expensive cars appear on the streets . So, there are dazzlingly beautiful women here. The whole world that flickers with this neon, yes, you must succeed, you must, that means, eh, here are brands, here are cars, here, well, a typical situation in Moscow in the 2000s. A man arrives at a restaurant in a used BMW, he has an expensive watch on his hand, the watch is fake. He himself lives in Marino, in a one-room apartment, because, well, he wants to show off his status, but he doesn’t have the money for it. And it was as if this whole world began to revolve around me then, around the almost thirty-year-old chief. How old was I then? 75 85, well, a little over 30, yes, and I'm 32 years old, and around me, uh, accordingly, this whole world, uh, started spinning, well, in real life. And at some point I started writing short columns there for various websites that were just starting to develop on the Internet. And then I put this together into a book. Well, listen, everything from now on is just like in a fairy tale, really. I gave my manuscript to Igor Bukharov to read. This is the owner of the Nastalzhi restaurant, the husband of Lara Guzeeva, your, therefore, leading actress from St. Petersburg. Here. And, accordingly, he says: “Damn, you’ve got a cool book .” And he gave it to his publisher friends. She lay there for a year. Here. Then, well, this is Yakov Mikhailovich Khilemsky, the former owner of the AST publishing house , for whom I have infinite respect. He once said in an interview: “Well, I immediately recognized Minaev, of course, I immediately gave the go-ahead, and after the interview his wife Lucy said: “What are you lying about? It was lying in the nightstand for a year, I haven’t read it yet, you did n’t even take it. Here. That is, it all happened quite by chance. Here. Well, and then it all sort of started spinning around there, and in the seventh year, in 2007, literature was the same as video blogging is now. It was a fashionable activity. Nowadays, everyone has a video blog, from a manicurist to, say, a massage therapist. Moreover, I think that a massage therapist has a much more interesting block than any journalist. At least he can tell you some useful things . Here. And then everyone wrote books. It's just that anyone, anyone, wrote a book. Well, it's not just writing a book. For example, as an athlete, when I, you and I, were together, I say: “I really love talented people, and when I read a book,” it seems to me that the person who wrote it must be very talented, because, in my opinion, it’s very difficult. That is, if we don’t just write about ourselves, yes, our story, changing some characters and inventing something, thinking it up, it’s very difficult. This takes a lot of time and the mental load is serious. Yes, in those years it was a little bit Yes, you are absolutely right. There were writers, they are writers, and they remain writers. And there were a huge number of people who started writing celebrity books, who were given a ghostwriter, she would scribble something down, and he would put it together into a book. That is to say, everyone rushed there . Fashion history. It was a fashionable story to become like, well, there are rich wives, wives of rich men, they said, there, conditionally, I’m a designer, I ’m a florist, and I published a book, they published everything. This book is not written, it doesn’t say anything about names. Well, she might not even say anything, but simply say: “This needs to be strengthened in the second paragraph.” Write it differently. She doesn't even know. Well, yes, yes, because there were a lot of such things , really. And back then it was hyper-fashionable. Yes. That is, Moscow in 2007, when I was 10 years old, it was more or less the same Moscow. It's just that instead of video bloggers, there were writers at Patrick's. 100%. Of course, of course. And they simply did n’t have the opportunity; there was no such video streaming. And if everyone were sitting like this, then the sheets would be scattered untidily. There would be a pen lying around here, coffee, and an ashtray filled with cigarette butts. Today I am writing again, there were such photographs. Yes. Absolutely. Well, it’s like this is a very fashionable trend right now, yes, to post some photo, a girl posts it or a man posts it. I’m real. Well, it’s clear that I’m real, it was somewhere on the twenty-eighth attempt that the photo was taken before it was posted, processed, and so on. That is, of course, nothing is real. In this regard, there was more difficulty then. It’s like, well, since I’m, I’m 28 years old now, and I’ve only been, roughly speaking, living this, as you say, neon life for the last 5 years, yeah, where’s Sophie? Well, you live, listen, the super life of an international star. Still, this is also a big difference. I really do n't feel like that. And sometimes I even feel a little uncomfortable when people talk to me about this and seem to tell me that someone is somewhere. I still feel quite uncomfortable when people recognize me on the streets. I feel kind of pleased, and I probably always try, in a childish way, to devote time to everyone. That is, on the street, I was walking around Moscow yesterday and a lot of people, well, people stopped me, and every time it seems to me that I didn’t give them enough time, I want to chat with them a little somewhere. That is, I have this. And I know big stars, yes, really, superstars of our sport, both in principle and in life. Some actors and so on. I've always noticed that a person might just, you know, walk by, not even pay attention, turn up their nose, and say: "Someone ran up, maybe take a photo?" No. That is, I don’t have this, and for me it’s a real miracle. You will be given a good person, because the next stage, I feel a little uncomfortable, I'm a robot. That is, when I understand you, the next stage is people who pass by, they sit and publicly discuss that I am so tired, I can’t just go anywhere. You constantly start saying, "Dude, go change your profession then. There are a lot of factories in Russia, you can go work as a milling machine operator or a molder. Well, you shouldn't live this media life, f*ck, if it's so hard for you." Me too, I often get asked, especially when there are big influxes of fans, somewhere there, let's say, somewhere, maybe in Italy or in St. Petersburg, when I can start signing for maybe 20-30 minutes straight, and I often get asked about this: "Well, how is it, that is, why don't you say no." And I remember when Rafa Nadal and I were in Monte Carlo, and he was playing a tournament, he won there, I think, 10 or 11 times, and he was having lunch at the Monte Carlo Bay hotel, and about 300 people came up to him. And there he was, standing there, and he had to play either the semi-final or the final there in the morning. And this crowd, also known as Nikone, because even people who don’t know him, they simply stand in line to get his autograph. And then they also asked him why. He says: "It's part of my profession, it's like part of my job." And for me then this became a very big example, because I could never allow myself to do so and I still can’t even to this day pass by. That is, of course, there are times when I might not have heard something or was running somewhere, but for me it’s always somehow timid. And I myself, when I see stars, yes, that is, I know how to, I have never shied away, yes, so to speak, from writing. Even you and I, I wrote to you, I very often, so to speak, in the fashionable way, give out respects. Here I really like someone, I see a talented person, I like his creativity, for example, or he’s an athlete. I will always be happy to write to him. I don't feel scared. I don't understand at all why you say it should be scary. You know, I'm talking about this. I know a lot of people who are scared, who said: "I will never in my life write to anyone. I will never in my life, here he will sit, let's say, some star, yes, let's call him that, I hate this word, but let's call him that." And he will talk about how he is sitting there, you see, I will not go. This means that I teach this to both children and my colleagues. If you have the time and opportunity to respect someone, respect them. It doesn't cost you anything. it's to express gratitude for the fact that this person makes your life there, well, more fulfilling. [music] What is more interesting: writing a book or a TV series or a movie? You write. Do you have a full- length movie? Yes, I have two full meters. This is Dukhlis Ifi. And the two full-length films that I wrote. It's been a long time since I've written a full-length film. I didn't have, I did n't have an idea. And I had requests for me to write, but I can’t tell you now what is more interesting, because it was too long ago. The selfie was released in 2016, 10 years ago. Of these three things, what inspires you more, listen to TV series more, because, first of all , well, let's go from and this is actually, well, it's kind of a shitty answer , but honest. It’s possible, I can honestly say, without any antics. Ah, the book, in my opinion, requires, uh, quite a bit of deep work. That is, every time, I didn’t write any, yes, detective stories or any kind of plot stories, I more or less always wrote stories, or rather, books about myself or half-b. First of all, mm, from the point of view of human vanity, the series comes out every year. And last year we were lucky enough to make two major series. This is a gold mine and number one. From this point of view, you write a book for a year. Circulations are so small now, it’s unclear who will recognize them or not. I have a big blog now, and I probably would advertise it, everyone would know that I had a book published, but that would require a lot of work. And here the labor costs are the same, but immediately you have such hype, TV series, actors. And this, of course, is the area of ​​my vanity, the area of ​​my laziness. Well, basically, listen, when I wrote Dukhlis, it was important for me to speak out. Of course, many of the things I said back then weren't exactly groundbreaking, but for me, a young man, it always seems to you that no one said it to you , right? It was important for me then to express myself, to say this, to express this to the world around me. And now I have nothing to say in books. This would probably be an honest answer. He is probably very sad, but he is honest. This is it. Well, and then two and three are derivatives of this. I work a lot on the blog. I work a lot on the script, I work a lot on the journal, that is, I work a lot with text, which is either written, or spoken, or read, and at some point the text already makes me a little groggy . That's why I have neither the time nor the desire to write books. About the actors, right? As a scriptwriter, you can choose the actors, and your opinion is taken into account. Let's say I see this particular one in the lead role , because I think my opinion could be taken into account if I were to come in and say: "I don't want Ivanov, I want Sidorov for this role." Because because But I told myself from the beginning that everyone has their own job. So, the lighting technician sets the lights, the cameraman films, the scriptwriter writes the script, the producer and director choose the cast. Everyone has their own areas of responsibility. Don't interfere in someone else's area of responsibility. They know better. I can tell you how it was with the first issue. I speak to Dana Sharapov, the producer who made this series, and Klim Kazinsky, the director. I say: “It would be great if Zhenya Tsyganov played.” And they say: "Oh, that's a good idea, by the way. Zhenya, well, you look alike, right? Some younger brother of yours, right? Well, in general, each other's younger, sort of. No, I think just one. And, in short, we agreed that I threw it in, they agreed with him once. Zhenya arrived, we talked with him, would have been. But more often than not, it does n't happen like that. Yeah. Well, more often than not, it doesn't happen like that. And I never go into that territory. And have there ever been any disappointment? Well, I just don't want to talk about it. Okay, I get it. I do n't want to offend people. Cruel. I would n't ask, I don't want to ask specifically who and there were, of course, the most cruel, simply horrific. I think that this was what was interesting to me, that like you wrote, you there, you fantasize in any case, and you look, you think: "No, well, this, First of all, it's not that. I don't believe. He is not this is not him. And this is generally cruel. It's clear. We won't give names. Why are we people raised? These are big, yes, these are big actors, big directors, but for me it’s like, that’s how it happens. It happens, yes. Well, what you said is that TV series are more about money, more about finances, while books are more about something spiritual. Which of these two inspires you more? Instead of a book I have a magazine. About the driver is my main one now. This is, of course, a video blog, because I got so involved in it , I was so, you know, so we started talking about what people would learn. Yes. And it’s clear that people have recognized me on the streets for a long time , but now I have some kind of super third youth, but yes, but do you know what’s important about this? People come up to me and say, "Sergey, thank you so much for what you do. Thanks to your blog, my daughter or my son passed the Unified State Exam. And for me , well, really, you know, you're doing something truly useful. It's not just about showing off and getting paid, but what you do is useful for people. And that's an important feeling. As a man, that's really super important. Yes, thanks to your blog, I also started studying history and I probably sleep better. Yes, for me, well, of course, looking at these scary stories, it's not really. That is, let's say I'm an athlete who devoted my whole life to training, and I didn't have time to educate myself at all. That is, it turns out I stopped studying in the fifth grade. And thanks to, well, unfortunately, I understand this now , unfortunately. No, my, I told you, my daughter does figure skating for 6 hours a day. I understand what you're talking about. You need to catch up, that is, because otherwise you will, Well, just an idiot. And for me it's really important, when we first met, I really started studying each of your blogs. Indeed, what the person told you, that I surrendered to Her, my consciousness opens on a constant basis. You look at these historical things, facts about the history of the idol, all that stuff. It's very interesting. I wanted to know how long it takes to prepare one episode. How often, because it looks like a conveyor belt. I constantly see, well, notifications coming: "New, new, new." How deeply do you study what you're going to talk about? Or is it more like learning and telling? So, there are several components. By the way, this is the first time I'm telling this story. Let's go from less involvement to more. So, there are collaborations. For example, Sasha Faib and I are doing something about simple things and now we're doing a story about maniacs. Serial number. Sasha and the editors completely prepare the episode. I take my part, read it, dig around a little bit more, and then, you know, put it on air. And Dima Boldin completely prepares the history of idols. And Seryozha Zuev completely prepares the history of billions. I only read my parts, yes, well, I know some things about the heroes of this episode, but I still try to immerse myself in them. Alena Dolets prepares her large parts. That is, my involvement there is minimal. When we talk about my episodes, yes, about the history of a person and the history of idols, there are two components. There are episodes where I prepare the episode for two weeks, read, read, read, and then sit down. I practically don’t have, well, there is no prompter at that moment. I sit down and tell it freely. Well, in short, I have a prompt on my phone for this point. So you don’t remember all of this? Uh, listen, no, I remember all of this. I don’t have a prompter, I remember all of this. That is, I don’t remember the date. That is, I don’t remember whether it’s 1742 or 745. I have it written down in my phone. You have about 20 dates there. He listens to us constantly. I also scroll through it periodically. They are saved in my phone. There are complex issues that have to do with economics, with religious intricacies. So, the editors prepare large formats for me. There are completely prompted issues that the editors prepare for me. I receive the text and say: "Here you need to add this, here you need to add this, here you forgot this. Add these parts, then I read them again" and then it's like I'm reading from a prompter. That is, it's a multi-component job, because we really do have a conveyor belt production, we have a complete television production. We are sitting there today, well, you can cut it later, if anything. We are sitting in the studio at the beginning of August, we are now recording the beginning of September, that is, a month in advance. That is, it's a big production. I am a titanic work. It is a titanic work. I'm just saying, I sit and work more than on the court. Well, listen, I like it. Firstly, I've loved stories since childhood. Secondly, I approach each of my episodes like a series. That is, like, and you won't believe it, but in 5 years he will do something, and what just, well, you'll be stunned now. Or there's this guy, the emperor, yes, whose nose was cut off, but he put in a gold nose, I'll tell you later why, and so on. That is, I approach it like that. as for storytelling dramaturgically. It's, of course, really labor-intensive. I get mad and say, "How tired am I of this?" I hate this YouTube. They hate it, like, well, you get the idea. I just have nothing to break at that moment, I would break it, but the camera can burn for a really long time, right? You see, I would say all this because it's, of course, work, and it requires incredible discipline. Well, for example, before recording, I can't allow myself to sit down and drink some wine. Well, it's just so hard for me , it's hard. But I was taught this way already on TV, you lose concentration. And since what year have you been working in TV? We have worked. I worked in TV from 2008 to 2012. So, how long? 2009 to 2012. Three. No, ninth. Tenth. One. Four seasons. Four seasons. Four seasons. Four seasons - that's hard work. That's not it sitting here, relaxing, blah-blah-blah, there for minutes, but still, it's a big TV. So, accordingly, well, at 33, I came to TV. Well, it's hard. But the period before, let's say, when you graduated from university, up to 33, I was selling wine very successfully. I was a very successful wine distributor. I achieved it there, I was the sales director at a large wine trading company, the marketing director. I was really cool, really. A very interesting transition from working with wine to being a writer. No, very correct. Not at all. Yes, you know, I'll simplify it for you. Maybe I will be like that too, and then I'm sure that's what you should do. The first block is about sports with a glass. Nobody has ever done that. You sit, warm up Vinchik and talk. Well , in short, about this, and by the thirty minute the conversations are already becoming more interesting. Still, let's talk about cross-country skiing. Proraka. Listen, That's an interesting question, by the way . I never really thought about it , but now it's just the way it is . When I was selling wine, I interacted with a huge number of restaurateurs. I was in restaurants a lot, I was in the crowd all the time, I listened to this crowd, I was exposed to it, I was saturated with it. And that was also one of the drivers that made me start writing things down. Yeah. I was also curious when you were talking about conveyor belts, about production, how many people work on your team? We have teams, for example, in my sport, they are limited anyway, because there aren't that many responsibilities that need to be delegated to people. So, in your case, how many people work for your specific sport? We're not talking about your partners, with whom you produce releases, and how many people work for you. So, look, let's talk about Minael Life's blog. So, I mentioned the co-authors , yes, there are Dim Boldin, Sasha Fipe, Sergei Zuev, and Alin. Staslavna Dolets. These are like co-authors, we don't take them, right? I'm being specific, yes. So, two people behind the camera, two cameramen, and one of them is also the director, and one is on the prompter, and a makeup artist, and a production director. That's five people, and my two closest editors are another two people. Seven. These two editors also work at the magazine . Vanechka, who is my historical consultant, is eight. Another Vanya, the producer, is nine. Those are nine people who are constantly involved in the process. And then, pay attention, I don't know how many editors there are. Their names are unknown, there are a ton of them, because there are a huge number of them that need to be edited. There are several teams of them who edit, put up BB photos, and the authors involved, some involved editors, there are also some number of them. Well, not many people, four or five. Well, that is, it's quite a small production, of course, not a television production in terms of size , but quite adequate in terms of the tasks and the pace of each television. Well, it turns out that nine people are constantly in touch with all the ideas, like absolutely everyone 24/7. These people work only with you, or do they only work with me, but they have some website projects, they periodically say, “Can we go there for a week and do something?” I don’t even know what they do. What they do for VK, for Rutube, maybe I have a super-professional television team. So it turns out that all these people depend on you, right? I mean, financially and in general, yes, of course. I mean, these people are on your platform, you could say. Absolutely. That’s why, I mean, when COVID started, I said, “Guys, don’t worry, I’ve put money aside for a year, if we don’t have advertising, you’ll lose your jobs.” I mean, I feel a sense of responsibility. I mean, in this regard, tennis teams are very similar , which, I mean, we distribute our income among the team, because that we can't exist without them , just like you, to some extent. 100%. That's why when I'm invited to some projects' website, well, I won't name names there, so as not to offend, but some big holding company invites me there, to shoot some project. I say: "Listen, if you don't let me bring my team, then I'll just bring my production director, because I don't want to sit on set for an hour and find out that we're filming in a museum, and your, you know, morons are tennis balls." They didn't put cameras on the ends. Now we're scratching the floor, because my cameras are installed . The cameras have legs, yes, the cameras and lighting devices have legs that can scratch the museum's parquet. You have to put on lychees, you know? And they forget, for example, I'm telling you this is a small thing, it's not at all significant, but because of it, the filming can start to be delayed, because they forgot the swords, went for swords, bought, mine wouldn't forget. That's why I try to work with my team everywhere, because they know when I'm burning out , when I'm in a bad mood, when I need to let Minaev go quickly, because he's about to start nagging, he's about to start [ __ ] saying: "This is not so, that is not so." They know me. No, I'm not hysterical, I'm not FIFA, I didn't break down here. I don't need bagels with poppy seeds, but with Parmesan. I do n't have that. But yes, thank you very much, it's a great honor for our family. But I just try to make sure we work super professionally. We go into the frame, we have everything planned down to the minute . Now it might seem like a show-off. But, guys, it's really true. We've been adjusting for 5 years. Like you said today, in the locker room, sneakers should be here, towels here . We have the same thing. This is very important. You don't have a headache at all . No, well, because you need to unload, because you're responsible for a big project, and all these people are helping you so that you feel good, working, it turns out, in the shadows. It's the same as with us. Well, if they don't keep the lights on, there won't be a shot. If they don't come to an agreement with the museum, there won't be a museum. We're big now, everyone loves us. But there were times when we were just starting out. I was returning to YouTube, that's also important to say. In 2011, I made my first live internet show. So, I was sitting there with politicians, the big guys, with Zhirinovsky, I don't know, with Nikita Sergeyevich Mikhalkov, without a doubt— now everyone's used to editing and releasing it—but we were broadcasting live. So, we would be broadcasting with you now, we would be doing this now. You wouldn't have said now, "Let's fix this later in editing." You wouldn't have said anything like that, because it would have been live, the word would have slipped out and That's it. Nothing. But here there would have been Zoom, through which viewers would go on air, and every viewer could ask Mikhalkov or Zhirinovsky something. Well, of course, we corrected them there, that is, so that they wouldn't insult. Well, and so on. It was Minal Life's most popular show . Yeah, I can imagine, I was just torn. YouTube didn't have anything like that back then . And so we made it, made it, you know , from '11 to '13. Then the whole thing shut down, and I missed YouTube's takeoff. So, I came back to YouTube in '13, I came back in '19. Six years later. Nobody knew me anymore. They already knew me as the editor-in-chief of Ikvaer, but for YouTube, I was some once-popular dude. And I came back, of course, as foreigners in the first issue. And it was incredibly difficult. You had to , because, listen, no one will pay you for likes and money for your yesterday's popularity. Who needs that? It's very interesting, because whenever you sit as a viewer, watching TV, YouTube, whatever, it always seems like some Sergey Minaev came in, made a beautiful announcement, and left. But it turns out that behind all of this there's the same amount of work, the same amount of toil, hellish, hellish discipline. And , like I'm saying, you and I, it turns out, met for the first time today , had breakfast, and I noticed that, as I've already said here, it seems like it's easier for me to play tennis. My area of ​​responsibility is smaller. Well, what do you mean smaller? It's smaller. I'm responsible for myself. And I'm responsible for myself. Well, how about myself? You also broadcast your thoughts, ideas through books, through TV series. It turns out that you, to some extent, are raising a generation of people who watch this, draw conclusions based on your books, TV series, and maybe want to live this life that you, that you broadcast. I drive these away from myself thoughts, because I don't want to find myself at some point a demiurge, that I've raised a generation here . But you're right, of course, that's true, but on the other hand, listen, how many people who live in the middle of nowhere look at you, a simple guy who suddenly entered the top tennis, and they say: "Yeah, I'll be the same, well, I'll prove it to you, I can do it. He could do it, and so can I. After all, you are also a big, big idol for them." Not in the sense that they see that you have an expensive sports car and something else. They see that you are, like, a winner. This is important for a man. It is very important. But I say, yes, in my case, you see, I went out on the court, I worked, the person was inspired. That is, when I was still very little, I remember I had an interview, I was maybe 12 years old, I said that when I grow up, if I can, then it seemed to me, well, I don’t understand how I , a twelve-year-old boy, could think that I would end up in the top 20 in the world, that if I can inspire at least one person to take up tennis, then my playing back then was not in vain, as I would be. And those are some pretty profound words of a twelve-year-old, these are in my interviews. Yes. And now it turns out that even if I just shut my mouth, stop talking altogether, stop giving interviews, I still, even with my game I can inspire someone. Of course. And in your case, all your thoughts, well, even I feel the influence on myself in any case. Let's say I started watching you a lot, for example, well, let's say I started to develop better. I began to know history better, I became more erudite. I'm interested, that is, but if you, let's say, decide that it would be necessary to change a little, yes, like simplify the consciousness of our citizens or complicate it, you can do it very easily. You have a huge resource and a huge influence on a fragile brain. Uh, that's why, listen, I've felt this responsibility for quite a long time. That's why every time, uh , when I, uh, analyze something, some thing on my blog and this , uh, leader or this sovereign tsar did such and such, and this turned out like this, I say, in my opinion, in my opinion, I wasn't alive then, I don't understand, I do this quite rarely, because basically I say: "Listen, these are the facts. was born, got married. This is where the war began. He either lost it or won it. He could have started it, or he probably could not have started it. Could he marry this woman? He might not have gotten married. Please draw your own conclusions. I am giving you the facts, slightly seasoned with my own view on these things, but I am in no way. That's how it was. And you must know that nothing has ever been here. We have always had a dark age. Well, you can't do that. I think this is just pornography. Until I was 40, I answered interviews a little differently. I fenced myself off with a phrase, a quote that Oscar Walt said, that creativity is in no way, I am now close to the text, the result of creativity does not in any way depend on the author. It’s just that everyone who reads a book perceives it in their own way and draws their own conclusions. Therefore, we, writers, relieve ourselves of responsibility. It's very convenient. I've been saying that all along too. Well, of course, that's not true. Of course, this is not true. And what you produce, an intellectual product, is, of course, a responsibility that you must bear. Well, listen, I've been trying more or less for the last 20 years of my media career to talk about some very simple things from the point of view of working with the audience, that a man should be more or less a man, that is, treat his women, current or former, well, raise his children, take care of their nutrition, not betray them either physically or morally, and some basic masculine things, and everything else is more or less the same, whether a person drinks or not. Of course it's bad. drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes. And, probably, it’s bad to get stuck on brands there. Well, the main thing in life is whether you are a decent person or a dishonest person. Because I know a lot of people who are just intellectual Svetichs, and they say such correct things and write such correct intentions, but not such crap. Well, it's simply amazing. This usually happens often when a person is too good, you listen to him and think: “Oh my God, this can’t happen.” No, and you think: "Oh my God, aren't you ashamed? Well, this is crap. Well, now, in principle, there is a cult of the ideal person. Everyone is trying to be the best version of themselves, everyone is trying to seem to everyone else the best version of themselves. This is such a social social space of people. So, especially here, like, I travel a lot and when I come to Moscow, here it is just at the highest level, probably here and in Los Angeles. These two, probably, are the cities for me, when people are trying with all their might to seem like this ideal version, the best version of themselves, and tell everyone about it, even those who are not interested in it at all and don’t give a damn. You know, I’ll tell you this, since, in general, my age already allows me to grumble, I’ll start. The thing is that before, when I was 30 years old, in order to become famous in the Russian Federation, you still had to do something. Write a book, sing some hit song, and become a journalist or become a famous entrepreneur, do something, yes, do something basic. And now it's enough to become more or less a blogger. And you already have a profession in your hands. Any person who gets a [ __ ] cat, they immediately start a blog and say: "Well, I'd just like to talk about cat breeding with you ." Today, Barsik and I took a [ __ ] at 8:00 in the morning. You know, it's very important when a cat takes a [ __ ] at 8:00 in the morning. I'll tell you, and hold the microphone like this. And you think, my God, you don't need to do anything in this life. You just need to set the lighting right. And this is a disaster. On the one hand, you don't even need that, right? And you don't even need that. On the one hand, and on the other hand, the disaster is that we have raised generations all over the world who are no longer willing to experiment. They don't tell you that your book is bad or your restaurant is shitty. The main thing is not to hurt anyone. Not not to offend. Come on support me. Why don't you support me? Dude, you did [ __ ]. Why are you hurting me? Insulting me with these words, dude? Well, you just made a shitty pizza, it's terrible, you can't eat it. You hurt me, you hurt me... I'll work through this with a psychologist. And this work-through, like you said, me too, I'm 28, I also like to grumble. I sit and grumble all day. I don't like everything, everything, I don't like everything, but only at home. I try not to take it out on the street, because I do n't have that opportunity either. I was just invited to an interview and now I'm kind of warming up. Well, of course, I don't allow myself to do that. Well, listen, honestly, I don't understand how it's possible now, uh, to become a writer or media maker, a sharp journalist. The word sharp, because you can't ask sharp questions. That means you immediately hurt someone, uh, inflicted moral trauma and and so on. The world is fixated on some kind of madness. I just now , well, I was surprised to learn this. So, the movie "Rust" was being filmed. Oh, my God, I literally wrote a post about this the day before yesterday . Well, Alzheimer's is already starting to set in a little. And the famous actor who shot a camerawoman on set because Bolden was screaming. Absolutely right. Bolden was shot by a cameraman, because he didn't have a blank, which means he had a real bullet. Investigation. Yes, so now it turned out that on the set of this movie, there was a person on the crew, uh, an expert on sex scenes. Well, so that when you were acting with a partner, you got up there by accident, no, no, you didn't offend the woman, yes, somehow that's important. But there was no expert on gunplay. That is, if you got up, you caused the injury. But if you shot someone in the forehead and they died, it's just, well, it just happened, it's an accident, it's not It's such a coincidence, you know? I mean, we've reached the point where things that have secondary value, but are important from the media's point of view, are more important than the value of life. For example, [music] now, in principle, the general trend is that if you don't broadcast it somewhere, you don't show it, it means you don't have it. It's always like that, it's always everywhere. And the same thing, even when it comes to me, I'll digress, yes, he doesn't train because he doesn't show his training. He sits there all day, records podcasts, does nothing, basically, drinks, and the fact that he wins is a coincidence. Of course, everything is a coincidence. I mean, we have that too. And that's why it reaches the point of idiocy, when people wake up in the morning and say: "I'm on the court." The Central Election Commission nominated. I mean, this is alien to me, and it seems to me that this will lead to something very, very bad, looking at the streets now. And then this will lead to even more irreparable consequences in society. And we will no longer see, as you said, anything sharp, anything interesting. Oh, right. And you know what else is important? We've left the territory of sincerity. So, despite the fact that all this, all the modern media has been blaring about a new sincerity for the last 15 years , in reality, it's absolutely pure lies and nonsense, because people, for example, well, let's take some basic, established media events of recent years. The people who put the meta tag in huge numbers , they didn't even understand what we were talking about at all, because it's, well, a socially approved position. So, we'll write it this way. This director there, then, must be shut down. We support his cancellation, because he's a monster. And what he did, we don't know. That's it. And in this sense, we have become absolute victims of this empty chatter and social approval. You're not expressing your own opinion, but rather supporting what's mainstream. And in that sense, of course, it's a complete disaster. And the second thing is that the internet has given any idiot a free platform. And when he became a free platform, this idiot believed that the number of likes converted into intelligence. He's no longer just a successful blogger, he's now a master of thought. Yes, well, I really don't consider myself some kind of rebel or someone who goes against the rules. It's just that I think fundamental and ordinary human things, human decency and intelligence, are much more important than these seven-minute movements about what's fashionable and what's not, what we've discussed. Well, this is about sincerity. That is, we don't say what we really think, we say what will bring us likes or what will become part of the social mainstream. approval. Well, let's say, say, a donut swears badly, right? Badly. You have to write a curse word. A donut is bad. They say "steg ström." Ström. Yes. They accept it at the sign. Ström, you understand? There you go. Well, that's exactly why you and I, when we started, remember, communicating, I wrote to you that you were giving a living person on the court. As a spectator, this is super important to me. I don't want to watch a slot machine. If I wanted to watch a slot machine, I'd set up a tennis cannon and watch it hit the 20-yard line. But you see, yeah, everyone should be nice. This is very interesting, because I wanted to ask about how not to lose your identity, and how, as a tennis player, about this, because I still play tennis and can, in principle, shut my mouth and not talk about anything at all and just ignore my own interview and pretend that I don't care at all. And so I tapped my sword and went home. But in your profession How do you avoid losing your identity, how do you avoid becoming just a puppet of public opinion and starting to spout some [ __ ] that you don't believe in? Listen, I need to say something pompous and long here, you see, I'll tell you honestly, I was just lucky. My development as a media personality happened in the middle, when the world was different, when the media was different, there were mass media and people were different. And now, well, like , well, it's clear that in Russia, like, there's no such thing, like there's no such widespread use of cancel culture and all that, but it still exists here, yes, and here it's also very important not to offend anyone, but to be friends with everyone. I would have made enemies of everyone right away. And what I said in the 2000s, everything I generally think more or less about books, restaurants, and social and political trends, of course, it wouldn't have worked out that way here now . So, from the point of view of that media culture, I was lucky. The internet was completely different. This is important. It's very important to understand this, because not There was Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. There was Life Journal. Life Journal was a small community. You don't even understand what I'm talking about. It's a proto-Facebook. Just imagine a proto-Facebook consisting of, because the internet back then was basically for advanced people, because, well, the general public didn't go there, some internet, yeah, this was the early 2000s. And Life Journal was where the intellectual cream of Russian post-Soviet society gathered, from journalists to writers, even politicians. And everyone could send each other to hell in the comments, to put it mildly , quite easily. It was a completely different soup. Completely different trends were born there . It was all completely different. And now, it's like, well, you can't write anything without offending someone, yeah, more or less. Everyone's used to being offended. That's the main thing now , right? The most convenient position is to find something to find you for, how you were offended. And in this In terms of media, it's changed. And I really don't understand how music, yes, music is also especially rock music or hip-hop, it's quite a socially, well, not always protest, but socially scratching craft. And like now, well, I understand that everyone more or less sings about a [ __ ] in Mercy, but everything has become very unified, you know. We were talking about tennis today, right? You're saying that everyone, more or less, follows the path, right? That means you have to do it. Here you drink protein, here you hit 365 backhands in training, here you hit the right. And this completely robotizes everything. Yes. Well, more or less, listen, the media is the same. Do you want me to tell you a terrible secret now? For the first time in my life, it's just an exclusive for you. The intellectual magazine SQUP. Yes, super-intellectual. Yes, I was the editor-in-chief for 6 years. The most popular material square has been the most popular material of all time on the site qur. There were some huge, amazing things. And a huge article about 911, about the structure of modern terrorism, about the world of media. Lots of investigations, lots of really great materials. The most popular material. The story about the crumb on kvass or kefir. I really am for your generation. It's much more difficult for you than for us. You have fewer opportunities. The world has changed and become censored. It's very important to you with whom I could afford and can still afford the luxury of being friends with different people, from the socially disapproved to the socially approved. I'm afraid that you can no longer publicly afford this. We're struggling, for example, in my case, I'm like this... Yes, you understand what I'm saying? Yes. You should have a socially approved wife, socially approved children, a socially approved Labardoodle. And all this should be as is accepted. We always, you know, when the Soviet Union collapsed, everyone said: "Well, there in In Soviet Sovsk everyone walked around looking the same, grey. Now you open Instagram, everyone has more or less the same lips, cheekbones, dogs, bags." Everything is absolutely standardized. For me, this discovery is absolutely phenomenal. So, I can compare? Well, yes, no, really, that's true, we literally discussed this. So, we were sitting at my house , I rarely see my sister, and she was really, we were discussing this, I say that in the SS everything was the same. She says: "No, you're an idiot," she says, " look." She's just studying, she knows, she tells me, and now I, and we just touched on this topic with you in a funny way , and then she'll look back and laugh that we were literally discussing this, that it seems like there was more difference between people then than now. Although I can't judge. Listen, the most banal example that I give is that I occasionally lecture on very narrow corporate trainings. That's the nature of people. You can imagine, there, you can't imagine it, but I I'm addressing an audience my age. For example, imagine that in 1995, Santa Claus comes to you and says: "Uncle Vasya, look, there's this little box, I'm giving it to you, look, you can make calls with it , but the most important thing is that it will track your location. You will post all the photos about your location there, she will record your conversations. You will constantly write publicly what you think and where you are. Do you want a box like that?" Well, in 1995 you'll say: "You're an idiot, I want a surveillance device for myself. Well, we all have iPhones now." Yes. Yes. Well, that's just amazing. And you don't rebel with a push-button phone? Well, no, listen, that's it, I'm a slave to habit, of course not. I still carry two and one push-button phone with me. I'm an old, bubbling twenty-eight-year-old man. Why do you carry a push-button phone? Your older comrades taught you. Yes. Don't be in touch. I don't want to be available to people. I don't like it, but I do it. I am available to almost anyone. I don't like it. I have an attack every three months. I tell my wife that that's it, call me only on the push-button phone. I have a separate phone number. I don't want to talk to anyone. But then I strictly understand that I'm just dropping out, even though I'm a tennis player, and my job is to come to the court, I still drop out of life, which is directly connected to my tennis. And every time I I'm rebelling, I'm becoming dependent on this phone, I turn it off, I put it away. So, if you go a week without news, next time you won't be able to discuss what Djokovic did where? It's not about that, because I won't be able to sign up for a training session. I need this coach to know how we'll get in touch, that is, he has to be standing outside my door, that is, it all becomes very complicated. And But I always say that when I finish my career, I'll have a phone list of numbers, I still write all the notes by hand. I really like it. How do you mean by hand? Well, I write all the notes. So, if you tell me something, write it down. I have a notebook, I'll write it down with a pen. With a pen. Wow, I really like it. That is, it irritates me that I have to, that is, I don't have photos on my phone. I'm not on my phone, I don't have geolocation turned off . I enter all the addresses myself. I really don't like what you're saying about surveillance; everyone knows where I am. Yesterday, I stupidly posted a photo from the Sapsan, and there was a number on it. I opened it, and there was a message: "We're waiting, we'll be there." I thought, "Oh, my God, what have I done? I deleted it." In the end, there was someone, but it's no big deal. Listen, I'm living now, well, let's say, I've been living in this paradigm for a long time , that if I want to publicly thank someone for something, well, there's a simple example. A week ago , I went to an amusement park in Moscow with my kids. Yeah. And the kids had a great time there, they really liked it. Uh, and I recorded a video, and I posted it a week later. Thanks to these people for accepting me and so on, because I also don't want to know that I'm in that park at that moment. Well, I don't want to let anyone know. I mean, I've already gotten you used to this too. About this second phone. I mean, there's nothing at all. Listen, I had this, but then I, well , you see, I forgot the second phone , damn, I have to go back, but here it is and it is. And like, well, I have another problem. I've been working in the media for a long time. I'm 247. All my chats are 24x7. And I remember that two years ago we were looking for, uh, we needed to fill a position in our media, uh, gang formation, and a girl came, she had a good resume, and they say well. And she suits us, and she says: "Well, I can't call or write after 7:00 pm." I said: "What do you mean?" She says: "Well, literally, and you can't write on weekends either." I said: "No, well, we don't have such a dictatorship here that we can write to you at night ." Well, basically, this is the media, it doesn't work like that. Well, you're either Well , yes, always in touch, or not always in touch. Unfortunately, that's how it works. And is this connected with what we are now discussing, the fact that you write books in Quiet Spain, somewhere in the village, where there is no such connection, because very often nothing works there, but here life is in full swing. And here somehow even I came to Moscow from St. Petersburg, yes, I myself am mainly I live in Monaco, and I can really feel how much energy I get from here , everyone is running somewhere, everyone is in a hurry. And these two things, they may be connected to the fact that you write TV series here. I write everything here. I write everything here at the dacha. So you were saying from the start that you wrote books? I wrote books in Spain back when I wrote books in silence. Now I write everything here. Can you write a book here? Not in Moscow, I go to the dacha. That's it. No, specifically in Moscow you can write a good, calm one, express your thoughts when your phone is ringing off the hook every minute. So, I made it a rule that I work there for a week, and then sit at the dacha for a week. Why? Not only at the dacha, of course, can you concentrate, there's fresh air there, the birds are singing, but the most important thing is that my dacha is more than 40 kilometers from Moscow. If someone calls me and says: "Listen, what are you doing? Give me, maybe, a glass, I physically won’t be able to get there.” This is the biggest temptation. You’re constantly being pulled. And so, ah, I’m sitting in my Novaya Riga and I’m going to Moscow, I’m going to have a tough week now, I’ll be in Moscow, next week I’ll go to Novaya Riga, and then I’ll go to St. Petersburg, because I also have filming there. But, unfortunately, I mostly write at the dacha, but I also, you know, really twisted myself, because, well, you can more or less hand in a book whenever you want. You still have to hand in a script, you know, by a certain deadline, because it’s tied to filming. And I learned that on the way I write, that is, these scenes, then I throw them to the editor. Oh, all this is done on the phone, right? I write on the phone. I do n’t even write on the computer anymore. Yeah. You talked a lot about the fact that you You work for a week, you spend a week on Yes. You work for a week in the car, write books, I don’t know about series. I don’t have any. How do you relax? What is relaxation for you? Well, can I tell you this honestly? Well, I do n’t relax at all. Listen, well, that’s how it is, well, I’ve traveled a lot, yes, to different places for work, without work, and so on. Here’s the most memorable vacation over the last 5 years, my wife and I took our two children and took them to Japan. And we spent , for example, 8 days there. Why? Because my daughter has to come back at 6 o’clock, she’s in figure skating every day for 6 hours . That’s it. And it was the best vacation of my life. But what did I do there during the breaks? We worked. Well, of course, I was sitting here, accepting the layout of the magazine. Here I was finishing the series. For me, this is a normal state. I never relax. I do n’t have such a thing that I sat down, but I have days when I get up and say something I'm kind of hungover today . I guess I won't do anything. It's the only time in 5 years, 10 years, that I've screwed up my own broadcast. It was the only time. Why? So, we were writing a big episode about the oprishchina, which is on the channel. And there were inserts that Dima Boldin did. He interviewed people. What do you think about Ivan the Terrible and so on. And I had to do the last thing, I already wrote everything down, I had to do the last finishing touch, ah, go to Red Square and talk about the execution site. And the day before, my fellow officers and I, hello, dear friends. I got so drunk that I just couldn't tell my mother. They were all in meetings at 8:00 in the morning , and I got up there at 8:00 in the morning . And where am I? What's wrong with me? And with a trembling hand, I found the iPhone, let Dima, said: "Dimas, like a brother, can you instead of me, go to Red Square, write down there that I am not able to." It was the only time in 10 years, but there was a reason, I simply could not refuse, and then the ore began to flow. That is, you, as a person who has traveled a lot, the south of France and the lifestyle is not close to you. I hate Monaco. I hate Monaco. I I have already told you about this. I will say it on camera again. About Monaco, specifically about the whole dozr. No, they are very different. This is listen. Code code for sur, I hate. And Provence is a very good territory. And Languidoc. Rosim is a good territory. Let me explain. Well, people live the same there. No, absolutely not, of course not. That means, excuse me, but in Monaco, you have rich people living. Why do n't I like it? Because the first time I came to Monaco in 1997, I, ah, as the great Russian playwright would say, uh Ostrovsky, uh, a lasso in your pocket . A louse in one pocket, the sun is already rising in the other. I had no money. And I thought, look at all these rich bastards. Envy overwhelmed me. Then, when I more or less started earning money, my life imperative changed. I would come and think: "Well, I don't want to sit in the company of these people." So, two oligarchs, a thieving deputy minister, and a regional gangster and four courtiers. I just don't like it. And who has what kind of Bugatti, I'm not interested. Moreover, I don't even have a sports car, because I don't drive. I don't have a license, I don't know how to drive. So I got it, I did n't like it at all. The south of France, rural, Languidoc, beautiful. Peasant people live there, very simple. Ah, but that's not Monaco. Monaco is not France, it's the capital of the world. 100%. I'm asking specifically about the lifestyle itself, which is that they relax a lot, spend a lot of time with their families, and turn off their phones. Many people are n't there. They still order taxis from a landline. Monaco is a separate matter. Me too. Dude, do you understand what the thing is? It's normal to be able to drink wine at 12:00 noon. And not work. That's normal. But there's one caveat. In order to have a landline phone with a rotary dial, so you could afford to pour your first Apiary every day at 11:30, and look after your kids and your Labrador. For that, your grandfather had to have earned his first million francs. I didn't have such a grandfather. Yeah. That's very old money, because either it's someone else's kids, or if you're in business, you can't live in idleness. You can't live in idleness. You can't say, "I don't give a damn about this training." Why should a pod train? Listen, Vincicar will follow me." That's why you can really want to, but I can't. Yes. That's why only old money, which has lived like this for generations, can live like this. Because the first Rockefellers made money, and the last Rockefellers are engaged exclusively in art. They sit on the board of directors of banks somewhere else and so on. I just didn't have any opportunities for this. I come from a very poor family. Nobody gave me anything . I earned everything myself. That's the first thing. Secondly. I can't live idle. That is, I definitely need to do something, something is needed by someone there. I can't. I don't have this relaxation. I feel like I'm falling out. If I don't do something, I think I'm committing a crime. It's interesting, because, for example, with me, I also come from a completely ordinary family, that is, sports are work, but I feel completely different. That is, I, that is, I am happy to, if I say so, that's right. Listen, I am very calm. I don't I'm chasing money, I'm not chasing any kind of regalia. I'm trying to just live, because it seems to me that everything is so short, everything goes by so quickly. Here we are , I've just arrived, we're already finishing up. Listen, you're fundamentally right, and I'm wrong, because life is very short and nothing, no million dollars, no million views, no million titles, it doesn't compare to your child's smile. I'm saying basic things, terrible, vulgar cliches, but, unfortunately, what you consider your grandfather's shitty cliche at 25, at 50 you understand that this is the only way it really is. Therefore, if there's an opportunity to talk to your child about the cartoon you watched with him, or to knock back a glass of sparkling wine at 12 noon, do it, because that's what life is about. It's in the moment. And we've started to squander these moments in a very stupid way, because instead of sitting down and focusing on it and saying, "Oh, my God, a bagel, Look at the sunset. What kind of sun is it? Let's stand like this. You can only approach it like this and only let the sunset hit ." That's class. You understand. Don't you think that people are filling the void with a huge amount of work? Um, you understand, some kind of inner, some kind of inner, I don't know, feeling, like you said, that you didn't do something and you start to reproach yourself, but in fact, what you said is very right, that life is in this. Listen, well, it's a psychological problem. I'm not saying that it should be like that. I'm a control freak, yes, I was struggling. Not that I was struggling, well, and this is also me, I was beginning to strive. Did I live in a ghetto or something? No, I lived in a poor Moscow family. As you said, I'm an archaic old [ __ ] and I want to live like that. Well, it's true. I am an archaic old [ __ ]. I remembered it straight away. I remembered it, rewound it, remembered it and that's how it was. I think that a man should wear trousers, and a woman skirt. I do n't think a man should carry a woman's handbag, like many people do now. I think a lot of things, and I don't judge anyone. Please. You can even wear your underwear on your head. Just don't tell me that you have to do that. We're getting into a routine with you again. Well, yes, I just want to defend this position. I'm not saying that it's the only right one, well, I support it with both hands, I live this way and I'm a control freak. At first, I needed money, I remember I needed status, understanding that I'd achieved all this. And I realized that I'd already created so many businesses for which I'm responsible, for the team on YouTube, for the magazine, for this, for the fact that I'm kind of responsible for these people. I can't. And sometimes I really wanted to, all the time . What are you talking about? I told you, why am I joking, but there's no joke in this. Why do I work so much? I'm a super lazy person. I lay with my cat every day at the dacha. My birds are singing. I would say to my mother-in-law: "And Look at the cedar, I thought it would die last year, but look, it went, went, went. And this is from A they splashed on the cat, this they dripped, damn, from these ticks. Yes, good. I’m actually sitting here now, you know, I’m so relaxed, I feel so good. Well, in principle, my basic, of course, my, yes, this is my basic vector, this is Russian corvee, yes, that’s how it is, of course. sit at your dacha and drink tea with jam, liqueurs and say that in America women with beards appeared. But for now, it’s not that I don’t have such an opportunity; I’m not interested in this for now . But globally, listen, yes, we started talking over breakfast about what a man needs. Of course, you need regalia and masculinity, but really, for the last 15 years I've been spending money only on sports travel, right? You and I agreed on the same topic: tennis. You told me that you played. You didn't just record a great video out of the blue with my quotes, yes, about my love for this sport. I love it, I love it, yes. Tennis. I played football, if we talk about professionalism. I played football as a child, well, as a youth. I stood at the gate. And for me, in this sense, the psychology of a tennis player is more or less clear , because what is a goalkeeper ? When you saved the goal, you played well for the team , but when you missed, and you missed, you turn out to be an [ __ ]. That's it, yes, and tennis is that you are alone, you are responsible for everything. Here. And I've always really loved tennis. Well, in the Soviet Union it was an elite sport. It was, I think, the only paid one, as far as I remember. And even then, there's no point in just hanging out there. Well, I remember that all sorts of respectable people played tennis, and it was a wildly elite sport. I think tennis was the Soviet version of American golf, in terms of vibe. Here. Well, and then, listen, I really liked it. I also watched, well, all the tournaments, which were big old players, Agassi, Becker, well, then, of course, there was just Federer and so on. For the last five years I haven’t followed any sport, neither football nor tennis, because either I don’t know, or I’ve lost interest, or I realize that football has become absolute show business there. This has become not very interesting. Well, I don’t know, somehow I am. Well, you play yourself. Now I, I, I played tennis and then a year and a half ago I started playing again with a coach there boom-boom-boom-boom. Well, how am I playing? Well, if you want to call this a game, then we are creating an illusion. Well, no, listen, I always approach this responsibly, even this. Yes, yes, yes. I mean, no, really, I like it. That is, on top of everything, listen, the greatest thrill in tennis, I'll tell you, if you don't know, the greatest thrill for a person who plays tennis at an amateur level is when you not only hit the ball, but it also hits where you wanted it to. It happens that you don't understand it. This happens rarely, so it’s kind of the biggest thrill. Now I'll trace it along the line, once and I trace it along the line. And I thought about it a couple of times before that, and your legs had already reached it, and you came up to it, you turned around, sat down, and then they did it like this, yes, and after that I said: “Okay, here you go, let’s finish.” This is how my trainer and I usually finish our exercises. We're doing something and I'm incredibly expensive. He says: "This is where we'll end it," he says. " Better the enemy of a good thing." He says: "Enough, enough." Okay, listen, this is awesome. It was tea with a bagel. Thank you, Sergey. Thank you. Friends, it means we still have such a thing. Prizes. You all love prizes, right? Which quote of mine or which donut quote did you like the most? Write it in the comments.