Formula of the Firsts: Ep. 4

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Listen, how do you look at it? call the local host? There's always in Everyone is commenting on hockey there. conditional football. Try the form. Yes, I remember you walking into the cabin, the smell of valerian is such that here Did someone spill some medicine? [laughter] And you somehow put your voice there, walked somewhere to some teachers there? And I chasing, Even my mom asked me what it was DRS. You keep saying drs. What What is DRS? Explain it to me finally. [music] Who is against firstapines at all? go? Pair of piastres Norris. I'm more for Norris, I won't hide it. And that's all the splendor now [music] is crumbling, and We are switching to new rules. And how There will usually be giant gaps. And the team that people love to laugh, in this case, sorry, This is the Ferrari Scuria. Look upon her. [music] You write that in general a woman, she Should she cook borscht or should she? has the right about [laughter] cars talk? I remember that the best time was somehow on showed the footage after me drove and drove around. Such that with [music] by car? And on this anger I had the best croc. It happened. Hello, friends. Alexey is with you. Popov. This is the Formula First podcast First and Red channel with the support of BTET. And since we have exclusively people the first ones here, who were in Formula 1 and were in something First, I introduce you to Natalia. Fabrichny, my old good friend, a fellow commentator and a person, which was indeed the first, and not only in Russia, but in general throughout the world world. This is the first, my friends, woman Formula 1 commentator. Natalia, hello. Welcome. Hello, Alexey. Thank you for this performance. Very, very nice. And I I'm surprised every time, and in fact it's very important for me, well, I don't I know, a title, or something, yes, a woman, which comments on Formula 1. And, as As a rule, everyone tries not to emphasize it attention there, yes, now it can't not being very fashionable, let's say, to emphasize what gender, but nevertheless the first female commentator specifically in Russia. It's probably fashionable to say now, commentator, yes, [laughter] woman, I don't know, me For me it doesn't matter at all. To me, Moreover, I like traditional Russian I like the language better. Oh, and probably the commentator even sounds somehow more thoroughly, more seriously, but the fact itself, Well, uh, thanks to you, Alexey, and to me managed to really become commentator. Now wait, we'll get to that, my friends, first of all, I remind you, Yes, we all sign up, of course. Well, let's give the First and Red channel a like. and generally actively participate in life channel. Then there will be an opportunity for guests too. Invite interesting people. So, we have in at the beginning of the blitz. We are not finishing, we are Let's start the blitz. The first person who gave you a chance in Formula 1, Alexey Popov. This is where I would like to be exactly when, yes, I read this and I think, yes, it's somehow like that as if the cuckoo were praising the rooster. No, They are your brother, do you think so? Yes. And partly I can, as they say, divide, but point by point. My brother the first person who showed me Formula 1 is on TV because it is looks, but you are the person who showed me the inside of it, so here equivalent. That is, he gave me a chance, yes, in Formula 1, Probably so, yes? Okay, I admit, I'm guilty, without confusion. Your first mistake is falling. Do you remember her? Oh, of course I remember. Yes. [laughter] So interesting. Such things are not forgotten. And my first the mistake in falling is to come to 10 minutes before the interview and start: "A Where is Michael Schumacher? Why don't we? "Shall we start?" And the press is like: "9 more minutes." I looked: "Indeed, "Another 9 minutes." And he arrived exactly on time. That's it. when the seconds converged, the hands, then Mikhail Schumacher has arrived. But not before. AND there was no need for a press stash: "Where is everyone? at all?" It was already Schumacher in Mercedes. Yes. Yes, of course, it was Makhcher in Mercedes especially at the beginning of Schumacher's Ferrari, it was a few minutes later [laughter] and Schumacher looked at the press kit Italian and showed him the watch. That's how it was, everything was the other way around. Yes. And in Mercedes, uh, besides the fact that, Well, we say German team, we mean multinational there, in somewhat English, but precise truly German. That's what time it has been said, and there is no need to rush us here, That's how we'll start. Well, actually, we, when we work live, we don't We can start 5-10 minutes later, right? You come to the concert sometimes, but when are they starting? And everyone's like, "I mean, through In half an hour they'll start. We have warm-up lap second per second begins." Then the first day on highway. What surprised you the most? Well then, let's break it up, yeah, because the first day on the track is like viewer, and as just a journalist or as commentator. That is, three three are different three different people, but which one is it about? would you like to say? And I can briefly say that these three are different. Natasha's, actually. The first thing is how much was it me? 17 years old. Monza, 2008. And I I'm walking towards the stands and can already hear the sounds of engines. through the Monza Park. This is the royal one park, yes, around the highway. I have everything I immediately get goosebumps, and fear, and some kind of trembling and crazy delight, because that it was honestly saved money go abroad for the first time. Where? Well, of course, to Formula 1. And off she went. I'm alone. And, in general, it was a whole adventure to get to Mons on these Italian trains. a person for the first time abroad, yes, we need a highway find. And it started to rain, and I didn’t have an umbrella. AND I remember, but at least in the Red Cap Ferrari, because I'm for Philippe Masa was sick. And it was such a delight to sit on the podium, seeing a real car Formula 1 and all this stuff around you story. Because Monza is a pro history, yes. I think all the fans are in I know that Monza is a holy cow Formula 1. Not the most interesting right now. race. Oh, that's it. Second. This is the first day in the poddyk. And again, ah-ah, the feeling that you're in trouble into your dream. That's how it is. Because that's all, that's been on TV for years, somewhere in snatches, yes, everything that is somewhere through press, and suddenly you find yourself inside, and This is all a truly living organism. Formula 1, but you don't have a picture of it, Lizor is somewhere, and you are inside. It's an absolutely indescribable feeling. It was Bahrain. I remember I was sitting there in poddyke, a line of palm trees, and I, in my opinion, under I sat by this palm tree all day, just just absorbing this whole atmosphere, The clever racers pass by. This the real one is not a picture again on TV, this is a man going about his business affairs, but at the same time he is a Formula 1 pilot. And the first day as a commentator this is that same legendary day when I I drank valerian because it was my first time in life and the last one, and because I I couldn't believe it at all This is happening to me. And also Actually, you have to work in this way a state when you are so nervous that You don't understand anything at all. You have it there This monkey is knocking in your head, right? Oh, and you have to work and well, excuse me, We can't avoid it. Work on your background, at your level. Reach out before that, just sit in like this commentator, excuse me, in a relaxed mood work at this level right away impossible. So I understood how I I will look like this. I understood that and also My nerves will get in my way. Maybe so, knowledge one way or another, because I am with I've been looking at the formula since childhood, knowledge will help. Now, Natalia, we will come to another one. commentary. So, look, three, yes, the eighth, tenth, twelfth year, as far as I understand, yes? The question was First day on the track, friends. What What surprised you the most? I didn't get a single answer. I never heard it. What surprised you? That's what I missed, yes. A Good thing it surprised me. On the highway in as a fan, mutual support, because they immediately gave me a Renault umbrella. I was sitting there all in red with with a renault yellow umbrella. First day in as a guest in the fold, that all people earthly people. You can approach anyone the pilot, to chat with him about something. And then, that these are the celestials, to whom not get there. And the first day as commentator that this is much more The job is harder than it seems. Well done, Natasha, well done. Yes, I do. It was right to invite her. Now I have my own in words, when I say something, it sounds as if I'm making excuses. So, sort of like, it's not me. Great. Fine. So, further. Well, it's all blitz, I reminds me, right? Can you imagine, friends, What kind of long answers will we have then? Well, two commentators, what can you do. Sorry already. Naturally, naturally. [laughter] Yes. The first race you watched as The fan was watching. That is, all the trips remember. And just in front of the TV I don't remember. Now I found me here on In the summer we were sent to the village to visit our grandmother, many, I think, in the nineties. And I I found my letter still in clumsy Russian. language somewhere around there first class. I wrote to my brother at home: "Who won the Monaco Grand Prix? Hope, Schumacher". Period. A, and who won? I didn't find a return letter. [laughter] No I know. Basically, it seems to me that these the nineties, that's just me, Naturally, the first race is not now I'll remember. This is exactly what my brother has, I should probably ask. But the nineties, this era of Schumacher, I I remember her clearly. Of course not, Naturally, he was rooting for Hill, and we there were entire battles. We drew there some comics even before people learned what comics are. Yes. Schumacher vs Heal. Well, that's completely for a long time. This is ninety-something in ninety-six year. But Schumacher is there, he is already Hill with Velnev fought. Ninety-fifth, ninety-fourth, probably. studied write Villeneuve, there, being all these endless French letters, that was it too very cool. Yes, they drew Kutherd, of course, with his square head. This Everything was very interesting. Yes. And this is also this moment you you use it in some children's games these names, you perceive these people as characters, and then hop, it's alive Human. We still have one more question here. for the introduction, my friends. First a rule you learned while being here in the team, punctuality, because it's a live broadcast doesn't forgive all these women's jokes regarding. By the way, I want to say, my friends, Well, as you understand, we are with you We're not broadcasting live now, are we? This recording, and we record podcasts, right? A and regarding punctuality. A huge thank you to our guest for her really, having television experience, I arrived early and went [laughter] to makeup. came and minute by minute, as we We agreed, so that's how we started record. There is nothing like this in ordinary life. there is practically no television practice it happens if we are not talking about direct broadcasts. So punctually, then, These 13 years of direct teaching have taught me something ethers, right? And the second thing is that my sister said: "Oh, come on, Natasha, she never does anything. forgets." The fact is that there is no formula little things, and you, in principle, so that To prepare for the broadcast, first of all, you need just an array of information from the point of view What happened there, what's the news? and secondly, preparation for the broadcast. Well, Who am I telling this to? This is huge quantity, yes, of some technical e moments. And I had a period when I as a producer, I also prepared ours reports, filming. And you need it too check what the kit is like What kind of equipment, yes, we brought it with us to customs to do this equipment. What documents are needed for everything? collected. That is, I am also a producer, that’s it I had this experience that all these details plus as a news commentator, plus what there are some rumors going on in the background talk, and you end up like this you are developing comprehensively from the point of view what you need in your memory is huge number of things to hold at once. A and, probably, the formula is very helpful to me in this helped. That is, someone says there: "Train your memory, learn poetry." Me and I'll say: "Go work in television," for example, then you will be comprehensive develop. I'll say, "Okay, we're close. finished. Now let's move on to the usual his question in developing this topic. I I'll tell you this, this is what I have, for example, is happening. I remember very well ninety-two, well, ninety the first one when I started writing and ninety the second, when I started commenting, Yes, very directly in detail. And I I remember the current plus there very well part of the last year. That is it the last thing, it moves. That is the amount of information is such that the brain erases it himself, as if from the cache memory, and updates. And you hold the last ones there, well, 20 races in my head, to use them during comment. But everything before that You don't really remember well. That is for I'm conditionally saying that it's the twelfth year, that 2002, it's more or less the same thing, what twenty. Still no, not quite so, because I remember who the champion was, but that's all. Yes. formula 3.000 in 1850. Here I am I have no specific meaning. Fine. How are you? by seasons, yes, you remember everything, all of yours at once 13-15 years old in podki? No, not really. Well, the thing is, that memory really is one way or another erases especially the results of races, like No wonder. That's exactly when they tell you there: "Who won in the boat?" There like this: "We definitely had a boat indeed, and there were also pit stops a large number." And this comes to mind gradually, some kind of mosaic, yes, in pieces. Ah, but if we talk about in Padka's memories, then I really I remember my years in Padok. Maybe, it's simply related to the general impression. Well, perhaps we should somehow catalog it I won't be able to do it, but the feeling of different years, yes, because when Vitaly Petrov was - it was just a feeling. When Dania Kvyat was - these are different. Seryozha Earrings. connected with personalities one way or another otherwise, that's why I remember, perhaps, but there are links to specific events and to people. Fine. Well then let's take Natalia. What's in your head now? previous race weekend or next? Next, As always. That is, the previous one at what point? is crossed out? Well, as soon as we go off the air, we we can't because we're still finishing up Let's write it down, right? We are still there We read press releases there. But where is this? moment? We also listen to podcasts. Which the moment of starting preparations for the next race. And if they go in the head lives race. How many? Well, if she was, frankly speaking weak, then already there by evening Monday and you start talking about her. Well passed and passed. And if they still go there with there are some disputes between the fans, some discussions, and now it's the whole season, in in general, it practically happens, otherwise you one way or another you cling there to Thursday, to prepare for press conferences, new stage, yes, the previous race, well Okay, that's it, she's left behind. Ah, but at some point you still live in this state for several days. Okay, then let's do it this way about the day you first went out ether. Yes. It was Spain in 1912. Yes. The race starts right away. Right away, yes, it's simple something was incredible because The rescue of drowning people is their own doing drowning, and the drowning man did not yet know how prepare for the broadcast properly. That is, again Well, yes, there is knowledge. And many of me They ask: "And where are you from? so much, yes, Formula 1?" This really since childhood, when you're in you're stewing over something when you're interested, the main thing is, yes, what is interesting is for you no need to force yourself to watch the news there read, you are incredibly interested in who is what where he said what happened. That is, I am with I didn't worry about this point of view, that I I don't know something. But again, when you live broadcast is another thing that many people, by the way, don't understand, yes, in due to the lack of such experience. And therefore what does the live broadcast impose on you? that's all said, that means it's cut down with an axe, yes, and you understand that there is no there are rewrites, stop, let's go We'll edit and stop. No, that's what's needed. work here and now. People you listen, people will most likely make mistakes to you, they won't forgive you because, well, since you're in jail, then what mistakes, yes, if you are in front of microphone, let's get to work. And these That's it, I'm like a person who loves very much reflect, that's all self-companionment before the broadcast led me to to the fact that I had practically panic. I think, "Oh my God, what am I "What did I get myself into anyway, why?" And plus to that, again, since you have You have a lot of experience, you have this is both talent and In principle, enthusiasm, yes, despite there Despite years of experience, you still don't have enthusiasm you're losing. And it was necessary against this background too not to get lost myself. It was crazy It's difficult, but I think it helped. love for Formula 1. That's all. When you, oh, and I also had this weird thing the feeling that you are talking while being in a headset, in headphones by myself in front of the TV. That is, uh, Try it, friends, if you haven't tried it, just turn on the TV and talk to him in an empty room. This is pretty strange feeling. Well, you're still together, at least you're still you talk to another, and when you one, yes, are you really Yes. And, uh, besides, a person just there is one source in front of the TV information is television, actually, screen. That's why he notices everything that The commentators didn't notice. And here you have papers, social networks, something happens, timing. Later, when we We're working from the spot, there's still something outside the window happens, distracts. Huge number of distractions. And here it is again This is multitasking. You need it and here it is there's something to look at on the papers here, some numbers are exact and should not be skipped, what's happening on the screen. And the main thing is to keep your phrase. Started finish it off and forget what you're talking about you say in general. And it is also desirable listen to your reporting partner that it turns out that this is not what we have so far it happens that while one is watching something in papers, another one in detail and then this other one told I found everything in a piece of paper, insignificant the same information almost [laughter] word for word. And you too so you look, and what is this happening in both sides, right? You look at me like that, but I I just said it. Me too sometimes I say something, then I look. Natasha on He's looking at me too. I understand that, Apparently she just did the same thing I said almost word for word, yes. But For the most part, it's better in dialogue work than this. Yes, in dialogue it is certainly better, because Well, first of all, four eyes, not two. - this is the first, and the second is a different view. That I, for example, have never hidden it, that the numbers are a little less interesting to me than emotions. And I know that Alexey is big statistics fan. The notorious girls pilots are shown especially for Natalia. Okay, okay, no need anymore. I wonder what they are wearing [laughter] there, Yes, as they say. I said about emotions, not about appearance and gloss. This different things. Indeed, girls The pilots are amazingly beautiful. They thank you, that they are shown, but just not at the right time overtaking. Not while overtaking, yes. Yes, Yes. And here it is like, but I want to say that just from experience, since we, being commentators, We understand perfectly well when people talk about commentators of that, fifth, tenth, we We know why there are all these complaints. AND the director is probably doing the same There is also an excuse. Naturally, they have 45 cameras there, 2,000 sources of all kinds of sounds and everything This. And at that moment, like, yes, when nothing happens, but classic an example that is still remembered today, this is the only overtaking that was on exiting the pit lane. Who's there? It was Gasly is against, I don’t remember who in Monaco. AND We were shown a replay of Stroll in Shikada. What repetition? Look, guys. This it was fantastic. It's almost ours chorus, yes, Monaco meme. Well, in general, that is, it’s like in any in a team sport, the referee can be offended each, we also have a director and, accordingly, the commentator. Nose on the other hand, it's still easier for us than pilots, because, Well, they are gladiators, you spend the whole race. No one will praise you for going. round and round, turn after turn, you collect, endure pain, set up the car is running, you discuss strategies with mechanics, yes, with engineers and so on further. Once you miss the mime apex and square the tires. This shows with four repetitions. And then that's it fans all over the world. Oh, he is, of course, I screwed up and so on. And then he'll add something like usually. as usual you get millions, and is on its way and you drove 10,000 turns perfectly, like none of these fans, not one I wouldn't be able to get around that turn. And in in the end they remember exactly what you, Well, this is that famous pressure, probably Formula 1 and things like that sports that are in plain sight. AND I think the guys, the racers know aware of this feature. And what's more, Here is Lim Lawson, yes, he told me that he I just didn't expect it to be this bad It's difficult in Red Bull for this very reason, because there's just a lot of pressure increased. Not only that, behind each of his everyone is watching at a walking pace, but they are not only watching in the team, but also watched around the world, and How will he go against there? four-time, yes, champion, but I'm not I know where I'm going with this now, but meaning the fact that neither he nor Tsunada are moving, neither to him, that they should be ready for this pressure. Who's against it? Let's move aside. Who Could you even go against Verstapin? Christian Horner. Don't know. No. Like this That's who. I don't know who. Rasplitter. Who? I think it's Hamilton. Hamilton. Hamilton or now or at the peak? Oh-la-la. Now he would be motivated even more, probably after the twenty-first year. That is, at 28 Max would be on equal terms with forty-year-old Hamilton, do you think? Well, there is such a chance. And Alonso would be very motivated. They have a very A lot really depends on this drive inside. Especially Lewis. The same a very emotional person. How could he not? sometimes tries to pretend otherwise? This is your point of view. Fine. So, where did it all start? love racing? You and your brother watched and But between this and still I want to be in Formula 1, who knows who watches it. Here I am I've been watching hockey since I was a kid, but I don't like it I never wanted to play. And more that, even when I was already I'm a commentator, that's what I do at rugby agreed, but not to hockey, for example. Yes. That is where you are from What moment did you say to yourself, "I I want to be in Formula 1," what has it become more important than anything else for Do you know what's the funniest thing? I remember this one moment. It was something strange feeling. I don't know, maybe, This is exactly that very female intuition or what. I watched the race, or rather this there was a starting grid, I don't remember which one stage, on TV at home. Briatore walked there with an important air, and in As always, these are his shirts terrible, wrinkled. And for some reason at this At that moment I thought, how I want to be there now, to iron Flavio's shirt [laughter]. Well, no, not in that condition either. No, No. What about being like Flavio, what about to be inside, to be on this lattice, along which the operator goes. I had it then there were no thoughts about who, what, what to do there. Here's the logical part the chain did not develop. Just like that somewhere here there was a thought, how I want be there. It's all just like an epiphany. And then, when I went, actually, go to television school, that's all it started, yes, I decided, I want to sports channel. That is to say, it was something like that, some kind of path that I I didn't even realize it myself completely, no, well, I didn't build any for myself chains. And what happens next? What is my step? It will be, yes, this is all about planning Is this what structured thinking is? No, I didn't think about it then. gratings in in the end gorgeous, gorgeous, by the way. Especially when Yes, the Russian Gin was in I want to say that Natalia is twice as at least in my memory did my job. And the first one was Russian Grand Prix, the very first one in Sochi, where she made the starting grid. And the second sad moment for me is when My dad passed away in Malaysia, and we We were in Malaysia, yes, and I was right there I felt like I was now, well, I'd like to comment on this some more behind the scenes. I can, but right now it's a 10-minute walk I wasn't in the mood to scream and smile at the camera. condition. I asked Natasha, she did too. I did it, although it was very It's difficult because it's one thing in Russia, Where 20 people helped, that's a different matter. on the road, where you are one on one with foreign operator, but we don't have any feedback, you don't hear yourself. necessary shout over all this stuff. In general, this is it's a really heavy thing. And how from this point on it's already further there is nowhere to dive. That is, here is the passage starting grid - it's that simple the quintessence of everything. You just go, that's all. the pilots are here, all the cars are already parked a few minutes before the start, you're right inside. What is it, excitement or what? Or vice versa. This is a drive. This is all the excitement already behind. I was so worried about this. This is already incredible drive. And you want to as much of it as possible through the camera to the audience hand over. I remember this feeling. Yes, there are really a lot of technical problems, because these generators are just everything you have ligaments in 30 seconds they are gone, and You still have to write on the entire starting grid to the floor. And then people keep pushing you, then I'm not very tall, me Go ahead and try to get the operator there, to squeeze through, yes, so that that there are hundreds of people on the starting grid guests. You start at the tail of Minardi, then It's fine there. But when you [laughter] when you're in the first row, yes, Yes. Maclan has a Mercedes. This is true. In general, in principle, so that I'm still so anxious, I guess, Human. I'm looking at the operator there's a battery there to hit someone on the head didn't give it away from the camera. That is, in principle, you keep track of a million things, but at the same time Time is drive. That is, this heat from cars and the feeling that now this the climax starts, and in a few minutes before this climax you work straight from the heart of this sports. Well, it's amazingly simple. Next we need to ask how you are ended up in the commandant's cabin. But I do, [laughter] but I can explain. I then another question. Well, first of all, because it worked as if a freelance journalist, yes, then I I started calling into the cabin so that she could help me I was just helping behind the scenes. I'll explain, There are such professions. Well, here's the thing, and I don't know the English sitting there, Mark. Hughes, an experienced man, is already there how much, 65, there, 70 years old, and he's been in the profession. And here he sits, he's right behind the frame looks at all the papers, average some circles, notices a thousand things and the commentator simply shows or writes something on a piece of paper, shows. That is despite all his experience, the man is not on the air, Yes, but he helps, he does a lot of things like that. spotter, so called, as the pilot Naskarova. Yes, yes, yes. Here. And me too Natalia was attracted to the fact that she was I was just helping out there, one thing after another followed and so on. And so it passed for some time, I somehow felt for her I felt offended. I'm like, damn, here she is. does a ton of work, but ends up with nothing I get the glory. Well, I also did karting. Assistant. Well, that's understandable, but it's precisely here television, yes, how did you get into the cabin? Here I am telling and I was with us The head of Russia 2 then was Dmitry Mednikov. And I told him straight away wrote. I remember I said, "Listen, how do you look to call I'm having some normal honey or something girl?" Well, she's a go-kart driver, but there is no experience in commentating. He says: "Yes, I'll try, it will be great for There are always two of us playing hockey there They comment on football there, for example. Try the formula." Here. And that is here. This is the story of how she got there. Ah, but how? That's when you suggested it, because you could refuse, for example, by saying: "No, I'm afraid" there. Yes, I actually have been here for quite a long time I thought by my standards, because again, First of all, I understood the responsibility, yes, maybe not completely, but I understood that it was a very responsible task. A, secondly, not much time has passed since since I finished my studies. I think it was me at that moment or I was still studying even at VGIK. I mean, I was like, "Oh, Now I have such a serious profession, Yes, I'll go, but what about my studies? from the point of view of cinema?" Everything will have to be there pause because cinema, it also demands from you a large amount of force. Natalie, friends, the second higher education in graphic arts is coming soon, Yes, because in geek you studied producers, who later also had the chance work already at the match. Yes. Yes. Well, actually, this is the feeling, that you are at such a crossroads and you need decide right now where you are you're going. Ah, but I always like them some challenges that seem to be forces, but complex. That's how it is. Not that, that you will take on something that is generally You have no idea, right, what's wrong you understand. No, that's it, there's no point in going like that. A I kind of understand it here and I kind of maybe I can do it, but it's worth it try. And so I decided that the answer will be: yes, because it is worth it try. So you agreed, uh, so this first broadcast, this first race How did it go? Oh yeah, I remember you coming in the cabin, there's such a smell of valerian that here Someone spilled the medicine. [laughter] Me, I think I kept silent about Yes, I don't think he said anything then. Those moreover, she, naturally, doesn’t tell me helped. I was so nervous, and so he remained. By the way, I did this later such an off-topic, as they say, among experienced people the artists learned that before going on stage They are always nervous about the stage. That is, those, whoever says that we are fine, they they are lying. I still have a wave of 600+ Gono, there's always this in front live broadcast, before going on stage you And so I was just thinking about that. maybe I'm somehow abnormal that I Well, that's just it race race race I'll explain later Friends, first of all, how did Vespania come out? 2012 and the very first race that we led in Russia - it was Spain too there in Barcelona in 1992 that is, it was exactly 20 years since I I worked on air and then they came to me A colleague joined in and secondly, well, this Okay, this is kind of our internal history, and this is the external one. This is not It's just a race, it's Pastor Maldonado won the first and only race in his career at Williams. And since then William, by the way, never won. Yes, Carlos Sanes barely made it there once there, this is one time Russell one time there we We remember, yes. But It was some kind of personal holiday for me. Why? Because the pastor is very good boy. He is one of the first people I I started doing interviews in Pandyk because that I speak Spanish. This is, well, better at that time than By the way, he fought for the salon during the entire race, which is also, naturally, Spanish Ferrari. And I even remember that a Ferrari, like usually, they merged the second segment into more hard tires, due to which the pastor and won. This is where I want to applaud, because that I don't remember this. I remember that the boxes the boxes burned after, that is, in the boxes my partner's car was on fire, I think it was a mess No. his partner Bruno Sain, who collided with Schumacher. Schumacher is his knocked out. And then an interesting story follows. Next race in Monaco. And Schumacher takes the floor. The only thing is this all the time. And in Monaco, you know, is impossible to overtake. If he started from the floor, great the probability that he would have won. And so on with all his ninetieth victory, yes, there Betonovsko-Ferrin, after all I would add at least one more for the end here in these 3 years of comeback in Mercedes. But for This Senna was issued with a fine 5, started there sixth and, naturally, I couldn't win in Monaco. So these two in a row are the connections between Barcelona and Monaco, she was amazing in general. historical. And for me, as for a Ferris wheeler in childhood victory. I was so expecting Schumacher to be here this career of his 2:0 in Mercedes can do something. And for me too it was a truly personal secret. I would be more pleased with Schumacher's victory Mercedes, than who is there then Alonso and who and the masses were. Yes. Well, yes, yes, yes, of course. Because you always root for the individual more than for the team. Although here they can happen to me argue typhosis, yes. Oh, and when is it now? They ask: "Who are you rooting for?" People they don't understand one thing when they you stop being characters, and become real people, you are no longer You can root for them like that. You already you perceive everyone with their own advantages and disadvantages, and that's all. And at This story is falling apart for you. 100%. I have, when people still I always say who they're rooting for: "Zhanalisi". They say: "And now." I I say: "Zhanna Lizi, and now Zhana Lizi." And they don't believe. They think it exists political correctness there and so on. There is someone who you love more Do you sympathize with one or another struggle? Or less or less? Yes, it is, well, it is. And I I think that people feel it too, yes. I I never hid the fact that, for example, This is not a disease. No, for example, for me, I always liked Ricard's character. Here, Well, he's a cool guy with a good sense of humor. humor. Maybe just a little bit somewhere It's going too far, but nevertheless, the image is there he's such a cheerful, lively guy Redbull even saved up to this contact with Verstapin and everything that followed next. Oh, and I always have been cute, yes, and he never hid for the press, that oh, I can't give interview, so more precisely, like, the pilot is not he explains that he just leaves and that's it. You You go to the press and say: "But what about it?" He like: "Well, sorry, time's up." This wasn't the case with Rickerd. That's why I it was always nice, like, yeah, and just chat and that's it. Charles too always I'm ready to repeat it to you on camera 500 times this story about how he was in Monaco for the first time saw Formula 1. Already this poor guy history. He tells every gram prix Monaca, how many years have all the cameras been there? That is, these are the kind of people who come to you, eh, at least they do, you see, that they are interested in you communicate and don't hide behind their own stop. I like them, but it's possible Should I say that I'm rooting for them? Unlikely. Let's come back. So here goes the first one race. Then there's just a blank sheet. Then just after my first race I was lucky that in ninety-second There were no social networks in the year, and people only They wrote letters. There's someone there too, of course, he watered us there, yes, there with Burkov, with Cheskidov, I remember, we even had analyses there were flights, we had paper letters there read out in the editorial office, but most of it people were happy. Well, still, if You've already written a letter there, go there. send by mail, that's all some effort. That is, and on the Internet Going in and writing something nasty is just a 5 seconds. It's common now. So when in the twelfth year you started, you immediately got this wave of hate. How can one even live with this? Yes. But actually, thank you. First of all, you really got me in that The moment was very supportive. Oh, and probably Here I know my character. I doubt it seriously. You said that in general always there will be dissatisfied people, they are simply the most loud. And this is really life after showed that this is indeed the case. And probably even my mother more was more upset than me because I I understood that no, at some point I I wanted to, I remember, yes, I did something like that I read that I wanted everything finish. Naturally, that happened. Ah-ah, but then, when one way or another the immunity, It's like immunity, you develop it, and you can just giggle somewhere. It's rare that you can be caught right here touch something living. Very rarely. Well, it happens. Not without it. We are all living people, right? There are some points that and how as a rule, they coincide with what you you know yourself that you made a mistake somewhere, and man you definitely need this This is what he will write. That's it then, yes, that's it It's called alive. And so you understand, Well, what I don't like here is that. And someone he wrote to me asking how a woman can do this talk about tires? Well, indeed, yes, in general, how [laughter] is it possible, by the way, friends, in the comments in the comments here, because when the podcast comes out, We will also definitely read the comments. You write that in general a woman, she Should she cook borscht or should she? has the right about cars [laughter] talk? What do you think? Here Let's. Of course, I didn't understand this then. logical chain. Well, actually, what am I? I know the difference between medium and software and that and then still hypersofts then still at Let's get back to borscht, Natalia, to borscht. One does not interfere with the other at all. By the way, By the way, the best cooks in general are in Michelin-starred restaurants are usually staffed by men. Yes. Yes. But nevertheless, there are women racers few. And the higher up Yes. up the stairs, yes. the less remains. But what is there, unfortunately, in there is this sexism, yes, when people I don't think there is one here. From the side There are no journalists. I don't think so. Well true, you can do exactly the same sort it out. Some people are more interested technology, some are interested in the sport itself, Yes? Well, to each his own. And for me, these are emotions, who give all this. Well, that is, in short, these ones go to kitchen. No, I don't mind. You somehow touched me said when you really notice some errors in gender, but here exactly in exactly the mistakes that you yourself You know. That's when, yeah, you think, "Well, I don’t need this, I know it myself.” This is what it is, What I had to do, what skills pump it up, as is fashionable now speak. And did I even have to, for example, I will often explain while you Do you think I'll just explain? I am very People often ask: "And what is your voice like there? they put it, went somewhere to some, "Probably for the teachers there?" And I say: "No, Well, it is what it is, as it were." Well We are not opera singers after all, to sound perfect or something like that kind. I know what skill this is It's really possible to pump it up. And to you in ordinary life is not needed exactly comment. So you can some of my thoughts, yes, some to give out reactions, something. And here it is the same Chukchasta Stal over which we stood we laugh, must pronounce. You have to pronounce it. And people sometimes They don't even listen to the picture, right? Them we need to talk about who went to pitstop. But you see this picture. Well Why do you need to say this? How many did the pitstop last? Where is he going? How can you remain silent the whole way? Yes? But this is like three circles every time general idea, Yes? It will be hard for the torpedo pilot today. [laughter] McLaren made a good pitstop. Yes. This is what needed to be fought against, exactly. to say some things that You think, well, that I'm the captain obviousness. And that's basically it commentary skill. But I will say this, that in my time commenting, ah, in my opinion, the requirements have changed. Let me explain. When we watch races now early nineties, every few circles show the top six plate, who is in what place with gaps and that's all. And the director always leads the leader. That is that there were 26 cars at the start, you, in basically, only on the starting grid and you see. Or when they overtake you in a circle, and even then it doesn't always show it. Which There were super battles there, we never saw them we'll see and not know. And now, at least from five cameras, yes. AND then you, who have timing, well this doesn't always, it doesn't always work, sometimes it is updated only once per cycle, it not on all the tracks there and sometimes you yourself from the studio for the remains, then you don't have timing, but that's not the point. When you have this timing, then you have to pronounce it for people more often, who is in what place, what kind of tears? Now we don't always do this we do it because we really don't We work on the radio. And when you always have the top 20 on fire, yeah and what kind of tires are they on, and what kind of tires are they gaps between each one and each other. It would be complete idiocy to say it all this because you're just going in circles I would say the same thing. Well no, I'm not talking about that to pronounce the timing or breaks, yes, or Well, that is to say, we are more, we are more we analyze it right along the way, at that time how did you actually do more before? this is this chukchestl, as you say. That You are just there And I will say even more, for example, in American racing there I always know that there are clear positions. There is a commentator who called Play byп Play. Yes. That is, right here in the gaming he acts just like this when I I commentate on rugby, yes, I really try have time to name all the players' names, through whom the ball passed in Weyer, yes, and then you immediately analyze it. A the second one, he is an analyst, there's a former racer there, for example, he can say: "Yes, in this one, in this one phase there to the fifteenth circle of the tire "They're leaving." And so, that is, it turns out that They play their roles very clearly, and we We play all the roles at once. then we take turns playing, then we analysts in turn, and then some other memory suddenly turn on what irritates them, and someone [laughter] writes the opposite. No, more, more personal, please, There we can see these gaps anyway. That is hence the question: how to please everyone? No way. Short [laughter] answer: no Try to please everyone, it won't work. Aa I think we need to stick to it your inner sense of balance here these stories are personal, but what you you see on the screen and some data statistical, technical, because I, for example, am frankly bored, if there will be only technology in general, in In principle, yes. I'm curious about something else pilots also need to know. I'm interested in some, Well, I don't know, just my personal feelings. commentator there from this or that news also, yes, I'd like to hear your opinion for some reason. So, going back That's it, yes, what other skill is needed pump up, in my opinion, pump up, this is the ability to analyze directly in real time what you see is on the air. Besides that, What do you think of Chukchestayal anyway? to pronounce that you see, you still some of my opinion, my analysis, but while remaining neutral. This is it is also important because the fan can I can't afford to criticize, although I don't like it I understand that very well, but if negative I need to let my emotions out, okay, that's what it's all about Sports are also necessary. Natalia just didn't go to hockey games, like We are all in childhood, yes, that's why She doesn't understand that Formula 1 is still a very gentle, well-mannered fan, in fact. Well, the thing is that for me sport is positive emotions. Ah, and negative ones. And someone says: "Sport is war." Yes, I have this point. I respect your point of view, as they say, but not I share it because for me sport is These are still positive emotions. Are you for? you're worried about someone, and so you're there for them you're worried. A Schumacher fan who never after You, please, were not different. Quicker exactly the opposite. Well, I'm sick now. That's how it is, if you take, yes, in a pair of pairs Piastre Noris, I'm more for Noris, I'm not I'll hide this, but he's just Please come through in many ways. Well, by the time this podcast When it comes out, we will already know who is ahead. And Natalia doesn’t know yet. Ha-ha-ha. Well, I do too, but I pretend, What intuition commentary. Look, that's good, then, well, it's the beginning. We understood, but still, 13 years is a long time It's time already, isn't it? Audience pressure for this time has passed. Well, that means it became easier, right? That is you you think that's it, you've been accepted there and no more of this for borscht are they already sending by definition? Oh no, and sometimes I even feel like It's awkward when I get some compliments Somehow, well, I wasn't brought up that way, or something, I say: "Oh, thank you, thank you." Well, that's it. It's just like a job, right? That I don't think I wear anything there. I'm in my arms, I'm there, something I'm doing something special. I think this is e the question is again about love for sports, and, maybe, I don't know, there are literacy, speeches Russian and ability one way or another hold a large amount information. That is exactly it some skills like that regarding literate speech. Well, here we are We always say thank you to our parents and so on. further, ah, but this is the base, yes, further is necessary develop. I always have people on the matter speeches, I always send everyone to the bookstore shop. Well, or you can read there now devices, but still, in my opinion, nothing can replace good old paper, even sensations. Here. And I try too. read as much as possible. Right here non-stop. Yes. How are you, I don’t know, maybe you’re a movie you're watching because you're a gender specialist you're looking at us. Well, uh, cinema trains a little bit different, yes, well-observed and in general, in principle, the ability to see, not just watch. It really is gives a movie, a good movie. I'm not talking about it now. entertaining because there is commercial, there is real. Here for For me, these are two different things. A, and it's a hackneyed word that means not Understand already what, basically. Oh, and just for me there is a work of art, and There is commerce. This needs to be separated. really. And I'm here, maybe, I'll be a bore, I won't say anything new, but It really comes from the family. And when your parents teach you that only literate speech sounds, sounds, Well, without a lot of Anglicisms, simplifications, and my mother She just teaches English. I could have said it in my speech, yes, that's all it's easy, but she has it very clean because She is a philologist, a linguist, she has a very pure Russian speech, and I have known this since childhood absorbed everything. That is, in this case, it didn't take any effort on my part, but I also adored the Russian language such at school, and that's why all this it all came together because I didn't have to no effort at all to put into it. There is a very big dispute about Anglicisms in racing. And racing is not a traditionally Russian sport. sports, so there is no point in translating those terms that have already become established. Well, that is, I still don't have a gender position there no pitlane, no car. Well, that's it. very sometimes people, by the way, whom They touch the PC, they correct it to the security guy car. What is sati? Okay, I wish they were on the car. security, yes, yes, they corrected it. But but that's not the point. Ah, and many, many people they think But on the other hand, I see this Now on the Internet among the younger generation fans, that they are even further away from this they move it away. That is, they no longer speak starting grid, they say grid. On the grid, yes. Anglicisms people in principle The tologs are Russian and then they take any there are just English words there Russify again, this is a personal question balance within the feeling I understand that on It's much easier to say gride from the point of view For example, you don't know about your view there. with colleagues with the operator where let's meet you see this is personal, this is the feeling for me It seems that if you blur it completely Completely Russian language. Here I am, maybe I'm contradicting myself a little, Yes, I'm talking about the fact that Anglicism and Leave it to Formula 1 because it's very a lot of specific things, yes. But at the same time, there are things that are established, which quite exist in Russian language. But there is a starting point lattice, Yes? And why her? somehow, yes, rewrite it back to English? But at the same time, for example, Grand Prix, well, will you be the big prize? speak? Of course not, because Grand Prix in that, Ah, that's what they said before the revolution, yes. Well, uh, and this term is French, yes, which and the English, who generally have they are bad with other languages, except your own. The English even say to the park firm, No wonder. Here. Yes, there are a huge number of them, yes, leave. What, it's a question of balance steam is good. Well, we are with the audience we figured it out, but inside there's a pain in the ass, mm, actually, ah, inside the podka This is a very interesting metamorphosis. happened. At first I thought it was very some unfriendly place, cold. And this is it the feeling of competition, it's in everything. AND you are, in principle, in some kind of a little hostile atmosphere. But then when you start like this or it's different to communicate with people, yeah, you know, that having cast aside all these prejudices, Oh, what are you saying, I'm just like that, how old am I? It was, a little over 20 years. And here it is and these journalists walk around there, who are there 60 and over, and they've been there for 30 years in sports, naturally, they look at you from above. Well, it seems that they are look down on you because I'm somehow I approached the Italian who was actually there all such, how can I say this, yes, I'll guess which one is drawing, which one draws, Yes, the one who draws. And there is little to him at all who is suitable for padyk. He always walks frowning, he always walks with pride view, straight back. And I just went to him I came up to her and said: "And you, in general, "Do you ever smile?" He rolled around. And since then we've been there practically And then he He came up to me with his phone and showed me his a photo of him smiling. After says: "Here is my dog." Such Another black and white photograph. beginning of the year Then. Here is my dog, here is my son and That's it, after two races we're already the best there. Friends. What I mean is that as soon as you this is the first feeling that everyone walks into of your thoughts of your thoughts and everyone, well, you can't approach him because this Englishman, this one there, American, this one something, and you start communicating with them. All living people, all with pleasure They answer you, yes, with a smile. And further You're already coming, that's what Formula 1 is usually positions itself as a family traveling big, yes, that's it the feeling finally appears. AND Well, did you notice that the main one The trick is that people don't say hello on opposite courses? And who, for some reason, doesn't say hello? women, and men, I don’t know, that’s it I seriously don't want to be known as such, yes, there's some sexism or something there, but For some reason girls let this happen to them Imagine, friends, what it would be like [laughter] This is really serious. Samoda, here women greet each other, and there is no man. Yes. A Well, you see, why would that be? And why would that be [laughter]? Ah, well, here it is Basically, most of them do it once a weekend. That There is on Thursday I said hello and enough. I will continue further No, I don't agree. Not. No, even to me somehow finding out that I am here I was making films, Adam Cooper came up, quite a journalist, who, as he said, over the last 15 years or 20 years, not a single race missed. He's such a bore. It's called a bore, na geek, yes, with from a racing perspective. And we spent 15 minutes with him. We talked about Tarkovsky. That is, he too like: "Well, I haven't done anything in 15 minutes." didn't say the word Formula 1." We are so We laughed. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So You can communicate with each of them. Besides Formula 1 is something else in the world. they notice, actually. Well, journalists are one thing, but Now television is something completely different. Yes, I wouldn't say that either. Let me just explain now, my friends. Just just Natalia worked with me, and with us in the best way In this case, one operator was sent. IN at best, right? That is what we have always, except, well, the Russian Grand Prix, where There was also some small production. That's why we're always the same We are always there at the press center. usually these are people who come there are 20, 3040 from each channel people and who live in a completely different place not in the press center, they live in a separate in the town there next to the paddock. And they have it there too my own life and my own party and being Natalia is the producer and I must be a filmmaker. This is what she loves, difference from me, so that there would be more, ah, you know, chests that need to be We need to sort out the lights, those that got lost collect, you know, stretch cables and That's all. A, and when others understood that you are not You carry the light, and you yourself are a commentator, and even Westerners have a woman at best only takes interviews after the finish. That there are comments only now They started letting me in a couple of years ago. And that's usually during races. Yes. Yes. A, that is, more than 10 years after Natalia, we have work. That is, how we are as always, yes, and we have the right selective, yes, earlier than others the feminine appeared and so on. So here it is they, when they began to see that you you work, was there any surprise? And yes, yes, actually I'm serious, I remember the Dutch were like, "Oh, seriously, we heard you, it was just in Russia." They heard on TV, were sitting somewhere, probably in a restaurant, the channel was turned on, yes, and, actually, they are commenting on it because, well, I don't walk around with an inscription on my forehead either. commentator, yes. I am, and what's more, I am I ran around like this, a multi-media personality, the so-called, this one, yes, the beater, where the pilots are taken. I ran interviews also take as a reporter, and that's why they got used to seeing me, in general, mostly a reporter. But then we, actually, and that's when it's on the grill too then, yes, I, uh, worked, they They saw that they were surprised, they were surprised. Indeed, it was such a surprise, but they still have TV people This is exactly what those who work in Pandyke, this one is probably not very good, a good manner, cutting through from that, that there are a lot of channels, pilot, conditionally speaking, there are two on on in the team, yes, there Scudra and Ferrari. And here in front of the scoundrel Ferrari has all these 30 cameras and there's a press Tasha speaks for 10 minutes, well, roughly, now they are still dividing into segments for each The channel has two questions. Yes. Well, it's funny, but still different. The pilot will stand there for half a day. A, a Before, you were like this with the crowd you're going. And that's when I realized that I I won't be able to be friends with them, Holy [ __ ]. Because, guys, well Let's do it one by one, not who The first microphone will pull out and yell louder. I can't scream any louder at all the power of education. I remember how I used to be in my time now non-existent stage in Ishtaril. Yes. It was just in the year ninety-six, when Villeneuve was driving against Hill and he overtook him Schumacher on the outside. And a huge crowd. There is still media now Pen. Yes. And before it was uncontrolled the crowd that's just behind a truck, and not a motorhome, the truck that is parked behind the boxes technical, which also has something different now they are assembling palaces there, he just There's a lift there to get the car up. there. Jacques Velneuve comes out and walks around the crowd and everyone we stood with were dense hands. Like this. And we are for Eurosport in the evening, that is, I commented on We also did Russia and SMIPI evening broadcast for Eurosport with interview. And this whole crowd, we have hands straight like this we were with microphones, they begin to pull towards themselves hand to ask a question. And I the only one left his hand and just yelled this question. [laughter] And Belnev, with with whom we were friends outside the cell in Monaco, Yes, he saw me, he started laughing, and, naturally, it turned out that I started to answer, where is one hand? was, all the others were later. This is to the question of struggle. And for me it was like this, for example, that, uh, one of the press-tash, he's working now in Zalber, yes, everything is correct. Then it is was, and what was it before Alfa Romeo, in in short, in general. Oh, well, Saubert, yes, also Zauberg, yes, just Zauber. And, in short saying, we had this, well, we we talked, he just started, basically also in Formula 1. And somehow due to the fact that, that I kind of recently, he only started, we are in good relations. AND the main thing is that he is also absolutely it doesn't matter who the person is from which country, there, but this is Russian, no, not this was. And he saw that I couldn’t do it. This is like pushing everyone aside with your elbows. Well I just can't get over myself. AND displays, uh, check. He takes Cheko out interview. The British woman starts as usual shout something. He tells him, he pokes and he says to me: “Natasha, I think like this: "It's fine, at least it would be like this here always work. Very nice, "Thank you." That is, indeed it all depends on human relationships, because before, for example, Lewis Hamilton's press attitude has become pressotashe [laughter] Lewis Hamilton in a Mercedes, what almost a swear word in some way the moment was in the pit, and she was a normal person. And I remember she's on Spanish tests, yes, on tests. We were on it then. tests, and she tells me: "You will be with him do an interview? What's first in Prestasche? suggested doing an interview with Hemiton? I don't know what happened, I don't know." Maybe she took some kind of pill or something. I drank it in the morning. Why is she suddenly the first? offered to talk to him? I had a really funny moment, I I'll tell you now, a very funny moment, when I was completely unprepared for interview because you are great do you know what there is for the writing press? friends, they are arranging a meeting with pilots inside. This is not where they are taken out in front of the cameras, yes, but where is it just like that? all the journalists are packed in, putting down their there are voice recorders, that is, telephones in fact business on the table. Oh, and the man is the same too sits with a microphone, and all this they write down. And I just and everyone is on there's a schedule on the wall in the press center, and you See who's there when, and you can go there listen to people and so on. That is, I am I I was just going to come and listen Nick Rosberg's Mercedes, which then fought for the title with Habilton just like that It was raining heavily there. I don't remember where it is it was, but one can assume that it is It was either Silverstone or Spa. Well, right next to the wall. And it so happened that I went there I'm running, I'm running in, time, a minute before that interview. And here is Rosberg pressatashe and ni There is no one else except me. [laughter] I look at them, and they both look at me. they are looking. And of course we were We know each other and that's it. And they look at me: "Come on, Well, come on." And I have this white one noise. Even though I have a thousand interviews took, yes, and the stage, and with the Schumachers, with all the superstars. And here, it seemed Rosberg isn't even a world champion yet. But it is precisely because I am completely I wasn't going to talk to anyone, I I just wanted to sit in the back and listen, just like here I go out one on one, like on You know, you wanted to be in the gallery at the exam. Here you sit down one on one, there are two of them, I I'm sitting alone, and one person is asking me questioningly looks. I immediately forgot how much he had points in the championship in general, on which stage that somehow At least what is the name of the memory. Keke, I'm sorry. That's why it happens. Yes, it does. I had this with Perez. It was his first year. Ah, and always first interview in the pilot's native language, and then English. And since I was alone with Spanish, Natasha knew it, he was like: "Natasha, let's start." I'm like, "Oh, oh. what?" And Perez looks at me. Don nonguna est nunka. Nunka. Ningun. Nunka. Ningun. Let's talk about languages ​​then. So, in Spanish at school. Spanish, yes. 10 years of marriage. Oh, everyone. I recommend it. Fine. Next comes English. Ah, English, yes. Well, there was English. second language at school, language in general there was a school. Ah, but he was so to me, he didn't I liked it, that's why at that moment and somehow I don't give him any resistance at all. I called, but my mom, well, didn't call me to press, yes. But then when I realized, what Formula La speaks in English, well, that's how they are All this was built, this used to be there French influence, strong Italian, yes, you could have it allow, in principle, English not It's okay to know. This is not possible now. imagine. You just, I don’t know, you won't get to the poddak at this stage accreditation. Here. And then, yes, I started seriously tighten up your language skills. That is it it was necessary You'll give it to me already, as it happens some Italian, French, something German, which of course is French add. Well, I don't know Japanese, How much effort and time does this require? The main thing. And French by ear, by At least I began to understand. But further it was necessary to go into more depth to study in order to talk, because that the phonetics are completely different from Russian especially language. And here it’s just, well, and it broke, there wasn't enough time. But I would like to return to it again, of course on being ferrists. Italian, no. And Italian, I think, is still the most beautiful language in the world. But Why in Spanish, naturally, So. Well, there's no need to start here, Please. I disagree. But still, uh, again As a responsible person, I understand, that time needs to be allocated for this. Bye there is no such possibility. This means that Natalia makes time for cinema. Yes. Let's talk about this then. Second higher education. And suddenly in in adulthood we become directors. Just a movie. It's just a movie - it's some kind of This is a dream I've had since childhood, which I at some point I thought that the formula will completely displace everything, yes, and I, well, than then you, naturally, go to the side motorsports, it is clear that you you take up all your free time only motorsports and nowhere else you can't move. Especially when we Well, yes, we went to all the races. Well, it's simple. where can you fit it in, you're not even in the house you happen. Ah, and here it is like this, yes, life turned around, that more time in Moscow, more time then at home, just physically. And I realized that I was everything I love cinema so much that I I just won't forgive you if this moment happens I'll miss out and not even try. And here it is now that I've already finished my studies director's, I'll just correct you, it's not the second, well, it's not the highest in in the classical sense, yes, it's simple specialty, that is, higher Still a producer's job. And here it is specialty, it's not that important, but a and here my first day of shooting is coming as a director, my diploma Job. Oh, and then I thought that maybe there are two ways. Or it happens that a person becomes disappointed after achieving this the beginning of your goal, yes, maybe still not completely. The full picture is what I I want it, I got it. But nevertheless you already director on set. All this took place. Either I'll be disappointed or I'll I will feel this inner drive, the same one that was on the grill, on starting, wow, this is mine, I like it so much like. AND and here is the second option. I felt, that I slept 3 times for 12 hours, I'm terrible I'm tired, I have a headache, I just I don't feel well, I didn't have breakfast, but I really like it. And what are you going to do? Here you are What, do you want to become Tarkovsky there or George Lucas or I Just Don't Care The only thing that doesn't come to mind is just what did you say? Yes. This is Josh Lucas. the only thing that comes to my mind comes. It sounds stupid, yes, I understand. great, but I'm really looking now myself from the point of view of directing, what I want to make films. It's not the same The most common kind of movies I watch are different ones things. And I already understand, yes, that I am there I'm moving in the direction of something really precisely director's cinema, because commercial, I understand why It is done according to the laws, and I find it a bit boring. And cinema, which is art Yes. Where there are no such strict rules, like in a commercial movie. I'm interested in go that way. So, they won't show it in the cinema? No. Why? Well, it's a festival. We won't be able to come and see. If there is such a term, it is called author's mainstream. This is just amazing perfect story. This is when the author cinema, right? That is, this No, but it's in cinemas. That is to the viewer, perhaps to everyone, to the masses the viewer will not understand anything, but for some circle of people this will be, this, as they say, it will do. That in short, the director should not think only about what you like to the viewer. He must express himself like this, Yes, essentially, that's what he wants to do. This is my point of view. That is to say, You have to like what you want to film. you. Yes. And I want to move in this direction direction, to shoot the kind of film that I liked it. At the same time, you comment on the most the most popular racing series on the planet. Well, now it's, let's say, a little easier. to do in terms of time, because that I can fit in both this is mainstream, A This is the most possible mainstream of mainstream, especially now with the emergence of America, Netflix and so on. Yes, definitely a formula. By the way, Well, if we talk about the film, there is no contradiction. Well, well no, they are different. Still, for me. If we are talking about cinema and about Formula 1, these are two different two completely different worlds. Well, that is to say, it doesn’t bother you here, This is a super popular thing. Yes. Yes. It's not about popularity. The thing is, that in art you only follow the lead rules, yes, follow only the iron ones rules, because in commercial cinema There are ironclad rules. Open by the minute. And who will give money for this then? It's just that sponsors are like that. Oh, we Now we'll take up the entire podcast exactly like this this topic. This is simply why you are a guest. Aa there are special people for this, producers who are engaged in search just sponsoring it festival. Maybe it's not popular thing, how does it pay for itself? It may not pay off. Alexey, that is, it's just for the sake of beauty gesture. Artwork. I know that, for example, Federica Felinin's I couldn't make money from the latest films collect. Seriously, he was ready to do his throw away this Oscar statuette because what he says: "Well, what's the point of this all success if I can't collect money for Copol, for this film of mine huge, which he is now at the festival showed Metropolis?" He also took a very long time couldn't raise money. That is, here the question is, well, what are yours requests? That's how it is. How much do you like it? you need to have an elephant did you walk in the desert or can you still should I film some chamber dramas? By about art. Natalia is also with us writer. Now she has joined in, so say, to our narrow circle. But, however, she did not write a thing in itself, and she wrote an encyclopedia of Formula 1. That is, after all, for the popular uh Yes. This It was sold in stores. I say, don't bother here, these are my principles. bring from the cinema to the formula. These are two different things. How does this even come into my head? at? And also something about, I don’t know, enlightenment, intuition, or something, because Well, first of all, I love comics, and I don't I think it's some kind of thing for children or something. There are quite grown-up ones comics, and basically, you're the person, which opened up exactly this world to me adult French comics, right? Belgian Itsuza, because they have it on a completely different level from the rest of the planet In general, America was not worth it from the point of view exactly how it's done. And what People, when they hear a comic book, they immediately they understand either, well, manga in general Japanese or Marvel commission. Well, no, No, no, no, friends, this is absolutely That's exactly what European comics are a completely different story. This is actually, By and large, these are film storyboards. That's how I see it, actually. By the way, in In Russian, this is sometimes translated as graphic novel. I saw Here is a graphic novel. This is wonderful translation. Yes, that's exactly it. This is a graphic novel. AND I wanted to see it like this in Belgium since the graphics are based on racing novel, I wanted to do something similar. I I started making some pictures for myself paint. Seriously, I remember mine. the first spread I drew- This is a pit stop view from above and what kind of mechanic is it? What is it responsible for? Signed. Just me I liked this one. Very interesting the topic, in principle, is this, yes, the topic more now, when it doesn't even take 2 seconds 1.9. Well, yes, yes. And what about 19 people and who is behind it? what answers, when you figure out in slow motion how This is exactly what is happening. And this is the style itself, the drawings and that, that it is a fairly simple language. That is Formula 1 is actually very complicated. And to me, many who start watch this sport, they say: "Listen, I don't understand anything at all." Even my mother asked me: “What? "What is DRS?" You keep saying DRS. What is DRS? Explain it to me, finally. So, it turns out that we don’t explain enough. Here [laughter] I, I get complaints all the time. Why does Alexey sometimes say that? some things? We already know that. And here it is it turns out that sometimes it is necessary Sometimes it's necessary to say it out loud, apparently, yes. And then somehow, just like that, I don’t know, grew together. I didn't do anything for this. The woman who is in charge wrote to me sports editorial office at the publishing house, yes, in a big way, and she says: "Natalia, here we would like to make some literature according to formula 1." I'm like, "Oh, and how am I? If there are any ideas on this matter. Let's let's talk. I sent them my sketches. They said, "Wow, let's do it. "to do." We are literally negotiating These, I don't know, took several weeks. That is, we all very quickly decided that my only condition was that I I approve of the illustrator because well, I It's important that the style is preserved these drawings, and so that it was not Krasmanga or DC is American there, right? U. A and from the first time the first one the artist who was offered to me work, she at least told me honestly, I in a car I know that it has four wheels, that's all, but she's so Immersed in this topic, she looked Grand Prix, she asked everyone there sketch of what to change and add. She has very precise eye, she's there some I even copied this racing car. A the only funny story we had was when she sends it to me for approval a drawing of a racing car, but without a pilot Well, that's what it looks like, monocoque, that's all. And I write to her and I’m already typing that everything Great, I like everything. And here I am I notice that instead of a lodgement there pillow. I say, "Everything is great, but you know, There is no pillow there, please." Here The seat there is not leather, it is super comfortable. Not served time, Yes? Now that was cute. [laughter] Okay. Yes. Fine. So, what do you have in common with the book? Here, This is a book that still speaks to me to this day. did it become a bestseller or what? Yes, the first edition was completely sold out. fast. Well, of course, yes, I would, by the way, Someone bought an Alfa Romeo. Well, yes OK. Instead of Ferrari or Can we do this together? Okay, dreams. Dreams. The book is, in fact, yes, the first edition. sold pretty quickly. And the publishing house The girls wrote to me that they were there themselves in shock. They didn't expect, uh, what, and what they even doubled the circulation from what they planned, and all of it still sold. And they say: "Here we are now we will finish printing the second one, we will not expected. Well, thank you very much there." Oh, and by the way, another important one too moment. Ah, the publishing house itself told me suggested making this cover gift. That is what I am talking about in general I couldn't dream of it. I thought it was will This means a soup spoon, Yes? Solid, beautiful, voluminous, with s drawing, with everything. And that was it the attitude is so pleasant that let's do something special. To me Seems, is this a one-time story or is it you now will you continue? We haven't talked about it yet because I really have a year of my life to do this left. And it seems that she is thin there, yes, relatively, well, with a large format, but you need it not just so, you put your left heel there parallel to You're writing a book with a bunch of things to do. No, I sat down. I could get up at 9:00 in the morning and at 9:00 in the evening from the table. That is what you completely absorbs. And also, in general, to You need to prepare for the races. U, that is, and in general, I have studies at that moment was. It was just a year with point of view, well, for wear and tear, from the point of view view of how time was corrupted. About racing, about racing. Here except Formula 1, Yes. even together we were already there F2, F3 we had such world series as Renault, DTM, and in different eras. Yes, and even now it is the only foreign races that We were shown the last couple seasons, this is exactly DTM, Yes, eh, we were leading. There is a desire to go even further expand? And this may sound strange from a person who is like this hatches as a director, but I still I love racing more and more. And I am with the same It was a great pleasure to see these couple How many seasons of DTM have there been already? I do it to you. That is, I really do I used to be one of those people who, I know, There are some fans who only have the formula, that's it, they don't see anything anymore on the sides, that there is only Formula 1, Even the younger series are not aware of it. And now, eh, well, first of all, I always watch 24 Liman's hours, because this is generally one one of my favorite races. But besides Liman, I'm also interested in what they have happens there during the season. Before, somehow I felt, well, not like that all the same, but practically, I guess. AND Yes, perhaps there is a desire. Although I also can't understand what this is about connected because I was already here Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, yes, and it would seem that having achieved this there, What is the formula inside you? What else do you need? necessary? But I have such a drive from each from each trip to the race track, from even when, well, here we were on Drift, yeah, that was cool too. That is, Basically, I realized that I love cars. not situationally or how many years of my life I I gave them everything, goodbye. No, that's all They are machines. I've been commenting for almost 20 years, Oh, and now it's been almost 20 years of rugby comments. And for me, cinema takes up this place. And that is, some other kind sports? Mm, no, perhaps not. No, I always, Well, a figurine, when it comes to figure skating, I'm watching. You look, but would you be ready for this? comment? If only tomorrow I had to. Oh, Here I am at the Olympics in Sochi, they just forced to comment on the bubbles. At least I I've understood him more or less since childhood, but between this and even more so, this is the Olympics in Russia throughout the whole country there. Yes. There is one in Russia, yes, the rating there is 30. And you can't do anything stupid. That is me I was preparing, I was simultaneously hosting programs, I I prepared for this the entire Olympics one report. Here. But what I mean is, Well, okay, at least I liked rugby childhood, but here it's really real Here, go ahead, come on. Try it and you won't know how much it is yours or not yours. In the sense that, again, this is responsibility, yes, but then again it is interesting challenge. Maybe it would be worth it, if suddenly there was something like that there suggestion, it would be worth trying, because I am a sport No, gaming doesn't work for me. There is no passion that is needed to to do this. I think that man should always do what you want to do He has passion. That's why I can captivate. I was watching rugby, yes, and when you, especially if on in the stadium you have this crazy energy you feel it, here at the Russian stadium World Cup, for example, Yes, this is just screaming, all the air is electric, that's it It's amazing, but that's when you're a fan, and When you work, you don't have that. That's why it's exactly like sitting in the cockpit, yes, so no, work This is different. And you still evaluate the formula as work or still as a child hobby or both at the same time other or Yes, both at the same time. And in At some point, I admit, I had it felt like it had become just a job. Well, especially when you're a producer had to be, Yes. It was already something like this fashionable word burnout. That was exactly it from overwork. And then you go around in circles, around in circles. U I had a feeling that I was like a squirrel It's really the same one. And it didn't matter anymore formula, not a formula. I remember in Sochi, and we it was for us it was the most for people there is a holiday of domestic rake for us the most buttermilk nonstop. Non-stop. And here I am at the hotel at 11:00 pm I'm going to print it because the printer Something was needed in the press center. Not I remember why, but I had to print out some papers report. I'm going to the lobby to print it out and I meet my boss, an Englishwoman it is from Formula Formula 1, which television. She looks at me like that. me, he says: "Do you know that "Actually, sometimes you need to rest?" So: "Ah, right, I'll go soon." Well, that is it that moment when you just work, work, work and you stop sport believe behind this. This one was not well bad moment. Then he passed. Now it's interesting again. Yes. Yes. And I absolutely don't understand, I'm with I can agree with many of the fans, that some of the races there have become boring because the cars are too big for these tracks, there's something else here, I Agree. But those people who are there after Australia writes: "Steam season is over "Okay, I won't watch." Thank you for shared your opinion that you you won't watch. Don't just look and All. But they still watch, naturally, Yes. But why is there this feeling that if If you understand everything, then I won't watch? You're not just watching for the sake of it, so that someone new wins every time. You watch sports, this wrestling. inside. Even the formula is rich and tactics, yes, it is full of some political moments. And we are about all these political moments we tell, yes, all this behind the scenes history, just to understand what it is not just a stupid fight for first place or accidents that are the first layer surface. We are trying all layers tell and cover. So when People write that you should bring something else with this everything is clear, well, that means you don't understand something you understand this sport. When you work, What's the hardest part? Concentration, tempo, emotions, balance. As we said today, listen another one in parallel, right? The hardest part is when Morning report, you want to sleep. [laughter] This is the hardest part. In fact the matter must be approached physically in very good condition for reporting, because, well, we are all people, people, sometimes it happens that you come and for one reason or another, already tired. Let's take sports. Here I am So 51 years old. I've been running 10 miles every day since then. how he healed me low. Yes. And I swim a kilometer, and sometimes even that, and other. And sometimes I run 15-20. What can Natalia say about herself? I I've been doing, um, how long, well, from three to My trainer tells me that it's not allowed here. every day, no need to hang out here every day, yes, because it's simple It's harmful, yes, you don't build any muscles, you'll only kill yourself. That's why, accordingly, three times a week I I do stretching and twice a week power. I really want to go to the pool, but for now I can't get to it at all. Ah, but for me It seems that without, uh, a moment of propaganda healthy lifestyle, but seriously, without physical activity, and this one fatigue, it accumulates and hangs with you all the time. You don't get enough sleep and In general, you feel bad all the time. Especially now we will have winter, Yes, and you definitely need to give yourself physical activity. And I still love it very much karting, so I try to get out at the go-kart track. Now it works even a little more often than before, which I I'm incredibly happy. And even the winter card game, well, You know, this is a special entertainment. Maybe maybe it's a little less of a sport, especially without spikes on Yes, on slicks. But then again, karting - this is a mini, well, a mini-formula, It will probably be quite loud it is said, but, in principle, these are open wheels, yes, this is a formula in miniature, That's why allows you to understand the course of the race, physics process, fatigue, emotion. Yes. That you already treat racers differently, yes, than a fan from the couch, Yes? And moreover, in principle, just having been to the open air go-kart track, racing with friends, you you understand that not only is it far from you I was racing with friends. I want to say that if we are all more or less amateurs and performed in amateur indoor events, then She's just the whole championship in We have a bronze medal, yes, at the world level formulas of the Russian championship. That was cool. That was cool. A, also in some ways nervous. That that moment I realized that I was not an athlete to the soul precisely, because they are all this I have that killer instinct, yes, I do. he is not there. And, uh, my first reaction is you can't do it there, although sometimes, Of course, this berserk thing kicks in inside you. I remember that the best I showed the time at the go-kart track once after I was driven and drove around. I'm like, what about transportation? And here it is I had my best croque on this anger. It happened, but in principle I don't have it I'll come to this, that I'll endure everyone first, I didn't get any pleasure from this then I get it if I give everyone a suspended sentence, right? Or God forbid, if you know that there You have a better card and it's like, "Damn, well, I that's why I went first, because I had a little better cards today." I don't have any regrets that in my time there was no time there, I don't know, rich parents I started doing this myself a little earlier at school study precisely karting. A, Well everyone, starting from a certain age, He still dreams of Formula 1, right? Yes. When you start there at 18, already It is clear that one cannot dream about Form. No, I say, that's what karting gave me to understand that I am not an athlete at heart, so no. It was me who didn't want it never be a professional racer. This is really professional. professional, to earn money, what did you say to the girls who were with us They're watching now, so that they continue or what This may sound very trivial, but it is such simple effective things, because when you believe what you have You will succeed, you will succeed. Eat there's even a phrase like that whether you believe it or not, it will be so, What do you think? Now if you think about it, does that mean it? What do you mean? inside feeling if you feel that This is yours and you need to go there. Go, girl, you're a boy, there you are It's called. No, no, it works somehow in two ways. sides. I don't know how, but it works. really in both directions. That is, and this intuition that is in your favor it nourishes and gives you some strength that even to do things that with the sides seem, well, almost impossible. Well, you're a journalist there you would have a commentary career recommended to go too or this too complicated? Not enough, I don't know, recoil, too much criticism there, again the same based on gender. Here you need to be prepared for some things. Firstly, it is the absence, It sounds trivial, there is no schedule life. That is, relatives will never be see you on weekends because they are not what people imagine for myself, yes, the fees are also not the same at all, Let's be honest. Oh, and no need to wait. some kind of, I don't know, super fame or something like that, yes, that will be money, fame and all that. This is not not in I think journalism is the one for this go. But in principle, it’s probably love. to the sport you are into are you going to work as a journalist, Yes? Ah, and to find myself in terms of, well, some kind of style, or presentation, too It's important because I, for example, don't like, Even on air, we're on formal terms with you, because of excessive familiarity, my opinion, 100% greatly reduces everything. Some people like it like this They say yes, but I don't. Some people even swear. Yes, yes. That's why here's to find what's inside you I like to be prepared for what you won't have a schedule, you will have less money than you would like. Your family will rarely see you. Oh, well, Naturally, criticism from the outside, Of course, you're on stage, so All arrows will fly at you. One of our football colleagues I once said it by analogy with theatrical actors, artists, at We have a very thankless job, because the artist finished, yes, and now He received applause from the audience. And what's more, After that he left and that was it. And he's in dressing room and home. And you, not only that, you finished and just went off the air, then no one clapped for you, and after you're also doing some of this there You write down the results and start right away. read, analyze, write articles, There's still a video to film tomorrow and so on. further. That is, you don’t have anything at all. this moment. Yes, yes. You're always in work. Well, I've done my job, that's how I am Well done. Phew. And even sometimes people write, Well, let's say you have some news there you write. This news was already an hour ago. Well, I'm sorry, please, I don't Yes, I don't I sit there 24/7 in front of the monitor. Although in the understanding of people that person, who deals with news should do this do. Well, but is it all worth it or not? Yes and yes. Well, some yes, some no. I think internally, yes. What rituals are there before going on air? Don't know. We ask athletes all the time about, I don't know, he has this one there sides, he gets into the car, there some kind of talisman, some kind of signs. I must print mine out. pieces of paper. on which I will write the thesis news that happened there between races, let's say. Yes, If suddenly the printer breaks down, that's it, Natalia is unwell. I feel very uncomfortable without papers. They should lie no. That is, it’s just him the fact is that here they are, they should, my The cheat sheet should be in front of me. I I'll probably never look there again for days of comment. Ah, but psychologically I understand that if something happens We also had it before, like if it was straight ether, yes, and, let's say, some there are technical problems there in Moscow the front door, and they tell you: "Come on, and you have there, let's say, still there is no picture or something." And here on this If you're stressed, you need to start working already. Fine. It's normal to work because that the viewer doesn't know that you have a wild stress, you have people screaming in your ears here, everything is there It fell off, nothing works here. AND It was at this moment, I remember, once near Ostankino they cut the cable and The producers called me and said: "A there won't be a race?" I say: "What do you mean there will be no race? I'm in Australia, here's the race will be in a couple of hours." Otherwise, we have here There is nothing here. Here. And in such In these situations you just need to work hard. And at this moment it helps me that I have my cheat sheet, and if anything, I like: "So, what did I want to talk about there? tell me?" Oh, yes, yesterday Valteri with Brilsoy. Well, that is, here It helps a lot morally. Are there any parasitic words, for example? Would you like to get rid of them? There are, but they are parasites, there are many more. Yes. Find them, they are small. Do you even listen to it again? Oh, no, by the way, I don’t listen to it again. At all I don't listen back. And not because I I think I did everything perfectly, and because I will start to reflect, dig around for a very, very long time delve. And in general then how is that same one a centipede can't take a step, in fact. You listen, yes, then sometimes, but, let's say, well, not now, but earlier, if there's a repeat on TV, yes, you are you catching this broadcast? and you listen. Nowadays, no one interferes with the Internet either. Well, this is necessary, to Well, I just don't do it myself. never, but I know that many are straight they do. No no. Well, that means you don't get off on yourself? No, I feel like you're completely when you I'm happy with everything, which means it's a plateau. You have to grow somewhere and everyone else already has to satisfied. And the most important thing is, uh, I know the quality and athletes, and I was told, what about Schumacher, why did he become like this, yes, great? Because he was always there I'm dissatisfied with myself. He wanted even better do. Also ferstapin, which everything is great with him, he is going first, but he is unhappy that he does not have a better one circle, and he will still try. He's an engineer He's already saying: "That's it, give me the car home." bring this," and he will squeeze out some more and some more It would be better to put a circle. Therefore, development stops when you are happy with everything. And it seems to me that, well, there is no limit here in our work. Absolutely perfect, because you know your mistakes inside the report and try to next time they won't do it. Quicker That's all, right. Sometimes the racers get in the mood, they music is listened to as if it were straight sometimes in headphones right on the start page lattice. Here he is literally next to the car, yes, and in the last minutes he was still in headphones. That is, he kind of disengages himself from the rest of the world. Oh, well, I I understand that in our profession it is impossible to detach ourselves, because on the contrary we are all We connect everything, prepare it, and so on. But pay attention, maybe in an hour, yes, maybe you're driving to the studio there and and you listen to some of your own separately playlist just before the races. No, I I try on the day of the race and on the day qualifications do not plan anything until report. I already checked that when you you set a workout, especially if power, you pulled some iron there, You arrive and you're like, "Okay, can I just "Shall I sit?" That is, not to occupy your head, your time with nothing else. And I, on the contrary, sometimes a kilometer swam and straight You see it differently. And me, to Unfortunately, sport is draining. So, well, in a good way you feel good, yes, there you worked, but then for some reason mental activity. And in principle The main thing for me is to get enough sleep. Uh, be sure to drink coffee before report. Well, I don't know if that's possible. call it a ritual. And in the printed ones with music. No, no, there are no beads. In general, here it is Do I listen to music at all? Yes. What are you listening to? I listen to skin. [laughter] Shame. I knew what Alexey would say now something like that. That's why The first three letters are normal. Further There could be a monovar, but no. [laughter] Or m metallica. Yes. What else do we have on the letter M? Oh, yes, I am. Mozart. Mozart. Not bad. Fortieth In general, Mozart is not bad. Agree. We now like those commentators. Yes, yes. Well, yes, that will do. Oh yeah, I'm listening in basically, actually, the latter time, uh, French music. For some reason I don't know, some of what years? Yes, ZAZ is completely modern. Here ZAZ 968M is already installed. [laughter] Here. AND I'm feeling so crazy right now, but not Max, but a mix was formed. I I thought it was in the playlist because it was there There are also the Doors and the Beatles, my eternal beloved ones who are there forever registered, and at the same time a little popular a little bit of music or Smerton a little. Here's some heavy music last time somehow faded into the background. I don't know, I'm not listening. Earlier, by the way, on the same Monovars, I went to the concert, but now for some reason heavy music is not I'm listening. Unlike me, imagine, I do everything It was Monovarmanov's time, but he himself did not go. Natalia walked, well done. That's a question. We have a whole layer at the junction of yours two things you do, which we at discussed in detail. And racing with one sides, and films on the other hand. U We have quite a few racing films. Yes. The last one with Brd Pete came out here Now they've been filming about this for 2 years. There ate all my bald spots and so he came out. Everyone is disappointed, naturally. Before him we had a good one Rush, I was there before him Fort vs Ferrari, before it was bad Stallions, they were there in the sixties wonderful Grand Prix estuary beautiful and and so on. What is it that you love from this, what do you don't you love? Why? I would like to film it myself a racing movie if you will director. And here too, point by point. A, Firstly, regarding the film Formula 1, Yes, the most pressing issue with Brdom Pete. No, I didn't like him, quicker. I realized it later after the fact, What is a first impression really, wow You are a beautiful picture, but for me It's important, uh, that the audience doesn't think stupid. [laughter] And here the dialogues are like this, what, well, you don't do anything at all you know in racing, that's why we do this Let's take advantage of it. And we will have a racer coming and will tell the engineers: "We need to do the car so that it is fast in turns." But Formula 1 is 75 years old, Of course, I don't know what the car should do to go to the first spectator is not aware of it, This is explained. Oh, that's all. Well, disguise it somehow. This is for the mass audience. there is that term that I, yes, She said, the author's mainstream. That is On the one hand, this is an art-house film, It is made with intelligence. It's not made according to pattern, but wisely. On the other hand, Mainstream means for everyone. Yes. AND here it seems to me that if they We thought a little about the dialogues so that they weren't so obvious that not a single woman sat there in the car in the darkness at the team's factory, at the base created teams. I mean, she's alone. He's sitting there with a mouse, this whole machine creates. Well, there are some things that me Our boredom mode is switched on a little bit, Yes, but they completely knock me out the feeling that it really reflects the full complexity of the formula. And so, yes, every submariner in the film can't watch anything about submariners. A pilot about a pilot, Yes, Alexey, yes, I couldn't stand it. abstract. At the same time the film The Rush race is just about Lauda and Hunt, Yes, with Hammersworth and Ebrul, he's awesome. Well, first of all, Ron Howard is big director. He is an amazing audience He makes amazing movies like no one else. Howard and Hogwarts are not the same thing, These are different things, yes. He didn't go to school Hogvardete. Oh, and at this level, like era, Yes, it is really done. Ford against Ferrari it's well done, yes, even the movie, well, many people they really scolded me. Ferrari with Adam, yes, the driver and Penepe Cruz. He Yes, it's more about the Ferrari man. To me I liked him. Cool, huh? Hollywood. And all the elements are there Hollywood movies that are so blue Phil wrinkles his nose, from which, yes, there At what minute should this turn take place? happen, but still it really does somehow made with love. And here is A Let's take the formula for proto. The second part of the question. I would, of course, I really wanted to make a film about Formula 1, although at the same time I say this and me the knees start to shake there. As if someone will let Formula 1 start there take off. No, not now, of course not now Well, well, first of all, Brad Become a pete, find billions, and then already And here is just something racing. Something racing. It seems to me that karting is not visually cinematic, Alas. OK. Well, if we're talking about people, matter is needed, cinematic material, yes, there is a film, for example, I don't know if our viewers watched it or not. No, there is a classic film called Lilusha. man and woman. He doesn't seem to be about racing, it's generally about love, but racing there are present because the racer, yes, the main character. And for me too, this is a movie about racing because it has this this love for cars, for sports, for adrenaline, to everything that racing is for me, yes. And it would be great to do that a movie that's kind of about racing, but it seems like it doesn't. In general, there are women who are famous directors? I just don't, of course, Certainly. And Greta Gervik, for example, who took off there, I don't know, Barbie became the highest-grossing film of that year, I think so, yes? A But was the Barbie movie directed by a woman? Yes. Gret, this is her first one. blockbuster. Before that she had a lot of I've seen all the author's ones, I love them very much. And then James Cameron's wife, ex-wife, as What is her name, I forgot. That's how it is They call. I wouldn't say that about men. OK. Tell me well. Oh well, I agree. You I am inspired by these rare women there or or without reference, that is some kind of conditional torque again without any connection at all. Because it's a movie initially, I'll tell you, as a person, who studied the first even 30 years of the silent cinema, well, there's some summer stuff there cinematography, For six months, the directors were all women. at that time already. That is, yes, then already It was essentially a women's movie. I have so many jokes now It suggests that I'd better Or better yet, no, it's not worth it. I want to say that it was very There are many female directors. And who thinks, that now Greta Hervey is the first there poster, yes, a feminist icon, in fact in fact, no. Let's dig into it. The thirties, the first appearance of sound there also there. And in racing, do you have any of these? also people, because it's so interesting They say I didn't even know about it. But in in racing, well, in racing, I know everyone racers. I know that besides Mouton and Deniki Patrick and they don't exist, actually. A maybe you know some others who I don't know you there, I think, led like a guiding star. No no. I had a very, very good contact. We were very close friends with Maria Daviota, and I'm very sorry that that's how tragic her life is, yes, it broke off because it was that one a person who really has it all I'll hit it with my head, that's my dream, I want to do it study. It doesn't matter if it's a girl or me, no girl, but especially since she is from racing family, so she might be a little It was easier. For me she is in some way in some ways it's very specific there, but was such a guiding star. I I saw that the man was just going to his goals. I don't ask about the commentators, because you yourself are the guiding light here star, yes, so to speak, a different path on the contrary, I paved the way. And, actually, to you there is no one to look up to. On the contrary, on you now they will be equal. And regarding this Let's recap this season. Yes. The feeling of impression. I think he's more interesting than people. They say. Like this. Two McLarens, Max. Yes, he is indeed more interesting because What because we have a team over which people like to laugh at. In this In this case, excuse me, it's Scudri Ferrari. The prize goes to her, and she doesn’t take part in every race. justifies. Something, some mistakes some, then there's a sad tempo No, they disqualified me here, then something fell off here, then there team tactics were not applied, where it would be necessary. And vice versa, yes, Ferrari. We have, uh, the Hero Dash team antihero, it's McLaren, yeah, where again every race they do something clever with the way the outcome seems fair to them race. Because of this we get again all these scandals, intrigues, investigations. We have Max Verstapin, who just calmly always, well, shows the maximum possible on every track, yes. And this It's also incredibly interesting because, yes, He We have a bunch of newbies on We have newcomers, we have dark ones the horse, I think, is in the person of Mercedes, because sometimes they come to the field, sometimes they are nowhere. And here is all this splendor now collapses, and we move on to new ones rules. And as usual there will be giant ones breaks, and it will be interesting again. I prefer to be optimistic. I know you No, that's what you're better at you'll be surprised by the positive side later, Yes? And I prefer to wait for something cool. AND Well, to be honest, I expect more. return, if still Bensulom will be able to push through all of this. Return 10 V8 V10, yes, and so that there are a lot of revs, there was this sound in general. When did I I started commenting, we said something to each other complained that the engines were too revving, it's hard to work. Here. And now It's good that they oversqueeze again, yes, They complained. Ah, but again, I I wonder if all the cards will be shuffled from the point of view of the balance of power, what if Williams will really shoot like that of course there is no fight if there is no If there is a strong struggle, there will be less sport. Eh, and so many people think that it's more cultural phenomenon than sport FFmula 1. Some even say that business How are you? Well, business is any sport, In principle, there are normal leagues there it's a business, but a cultural phenomenon more than a sport. You Do you agree with this at all? And the car is really 70 percent, In my opinion, the result is what decides here VF1. And then it can no longer be said that it's a pure sport because it's not Physics, yes. But I like cultural phenomenon. I agree, I guess. Fine. If only you could right now take a microphone and place it next to anyone racer, current or even already not performing or even, perhaps, who is no longer even alive, just talk, yes, with whom? Who? Fanhu, I think. Juan Manuel Fanju. He has such an interesting story. And in Spanish it would be good. And in Spanish. And he is such a gentleman. I I watched his interview recordings and he's a plus. due to the fact that he is already of age, yes, started chasing, he is rich in general, in in principle, life experience, and it is not only I lived for racing. This is also very Interesting. By the way, are you friends? first of all, well, don't forget subscribe, yes, of course, to First Red. And also write in the comments here who would you like to hear in such a format. It would be interesting. Yes. Let's gradually finish this. A what race would you dream of comment? Here's some the return of the classic track, I don't I know, or the first stage in a new country some. Now imagine it again same, that you have a cartblanc. Yes. Any, yes. And the herring is ninety-seventh. I would be curious at the moment if I I felt it and said: “I don’t know the outcome only. This is important, right? That is, they are important "live emotions." Vitalik's first podium Petrova. Then I was the producer It worked, but it would be interesting specifically This is something to experience together with the audience and survive it together. And now here's something new Now. For some reason I really want to go to Yalami. I don't know. I know you don't think so, that it's a super track, but from what I Here are some snippets, fragments I read, I saw that she seemed interesting, but again, now they are long cars, maybe there will be one again the little train, as in Zaanvart they stopped and Let's go. Then, of course, no. And so exotic, beautiful, interesting. Best regards, dear Alexey and Natalia. Tell me, with which one? unexpected reaction to you are a female commentator in Formula 1 have you encountered this? The most unexpected reaction. Is this a trick question or something? No. Well, just remember one history, I don't know who. A someone said something stupid or On the contrary, he was pleasantly surprised and praised me. Well, that's it, now I'm right blocked because in fact In fact, I always have only respect for that It's called always. Oh seriously, you have such an interesting profession. And especially, when you say it in some feminine companies that don't know anything about cars at all they know, yes, like this: "Seriously, do you know anything about cars?" Now that's really nice. But even a little bit What is so surprising about this, excuse me? so much so that yours are stretched out like that faces? Well, the final question. Yes. What can you call yourself the first in? In development in two very different directions at once serious professions. simultaneously I don't know any other person, which would be seriously immersed in two polar worlds, it would seem, yes, art and sports. And I like that I manage to balance this in my life and not to lose, as it seems to me, not losing passions here and there. Thanks a lot. Natalia Fabrina is with us I was visiting. The world's first woman Formula 1 commentator. Well, and we have The podcast is called Formula of the First on the channel. First and Red with the support of FBT. Yes.