PONKRASHOW: Sergey Bykov

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[music] Ah, hello everyone, subscribers of the First channel Red. Pancroshow is on the line. And today we have unique situation, unique guest. Today we will talk a lot about basketball and we'll try to open it for you this game from a new perspective. At our place Sergey Bykov, European Champion, bronze two-time European Championship medalist Eurocup champion, and Sergei was also a member to the coaching staff of the Russian national team. On wait a second, when did you take it then? participation in the World Championship and the Championship Europe? Right, right. You also forgot to say that it’s close your friend. A close friend of mine too, yes. Well, Sergey, You can see right away, yes, we have the same ones with Sergey Very dense and close relationships. There will be a lot jokes. Thank you for visiting us guests. In general, the format of our today conversations, it will be very different from your previous formats. Tablet It's not without reason here. I have a wish tell about basketball. On the other hand On the other hand, you seem to me to be such an example, uh, a player and a coach who, uh, is very has developed greatly as first as a basketball player, and then as The coach has learned this game. Now, uh, we We interact a lot on the court, and you act both as a coach and mentor. Well, in general, I simply suggest talk about basketball. Now by I'll try to roughly voice my idea. Uh, few people know when you and I met. Well, our first conversation, occurred in Surgut. I have it, I have it clearly and I remember it very well. So then we performed, and it was the Super League, Probably so, yes? Or would it be the highest league PBL tower, Yes? And that means, then Sergei and I discussed this situation discussed, how would it be on the verge of that finish, well, and generally find yourself in another field of activity. And then an important moment is happening. You are returned to the Dynamo system. Ae, Dusan Ivkovic arrives. And here we go Let's talk about how much Duda revealed basketball to you in a different way. Well, you understand, right? That is, you and me we know that we will be there anyway discuss Trinqueri, Blat, and the like there people who, well, they push the boundaries your understanding of this game. That is you you play one game at first, then a man comes and says: "Wait, Sergey, basketball is a little different, it like this." You say: "Well, I don't know, well I don't know." What should I do? For starters. You're just defending yourself. Let's start with Surgut, Yes? Let's. Well, and a couple of teams there, which are conditionally important to note there, first story. I am from the provinces, from deep province did not go through the system preparation. And therefore, to talk about it there some tactics and understanding, deep understanding of basketball, well, there was no talk. It was just basketball. It seems to me that, By the way, this is my advantage. I am not They were squeezing you like you were in St. Petersburg basketball. Yes, it is possible. I was just playing. And when the first one arrived once for viewing, like this very one talented young people were viewed in The Russian national team, someone was hyped up. I remember, that my good comrades, I got on viewing as a candidate, I am kind comrades told me everything that was going on combination. My mind did not accept this history. I didn't understand why I should pass the ball to someone, make a cut, go put a screen on the far side. These extra iterations for what This? How old were you? Well, let's say 15, probably. 15 years. This is the first time I I learned that basketball is actually in fact, it is not just an easy sport. You know how the blood said: "There's football very simple game, but very difficult It's easy to play." I was at the level absolute simplicity, as if he took the ball, throw it away. Here. And so, this is the first e such an important point in my biographies. The second story is when I was in Trintu was invited by Galaev. Here he is already So, more or less, I came into contact with system basketball, combinations, roles and blah-blah-blah. And then the first one is so confusing, the fork is when I even thought that Once the thirteenth ended, I didn't have any no suggestions, I was going to return to your homeland. And then it was like Dynamo Moscow is being recreated. Me Gomesky Bazarevich invites you. I'm on Somehow he showed himself during the viewing. And here it is This is my first time being so professional. the level where the stars are truly stellar players, a star coach and you are given super small role. We are talking about this Let's talk separately. Yes, This is a very important moment. Yes. Yes. AND It seems to me that this is a difficult period for many young people who are part of professional dispute, because here it's about controlling your ego, plus you, like rule, apparently, dominated in his level, and you are given a role that Your brain can't accept it. As if Why should I have no visions at all, without throw, run on the court, defend, yes, and in general there is like standing in settling tank. This is the important point. AND then I actually went to Surgut, I'll put the career part aside there. Here in Surgut I had a serious injury, so having gone there into exile, as I did I call it for the good, but nevertheless link, and I really have it there my ankles started to hurt a lot, and I decided end your career. Here. But it's good that I had current contract with Dynamo and Ivkovic there, I remember, they played me one game at a time returns as if to the composition. To me First of all, I liked the level of scale coach who spent 2 years in Dynamo. As far as I remember, the only one I had a conversation with him, it was at the very beginning something like this: what was before, I don’t care Interesting. We're going to tell history now. write together. I will be absolutely evaluate you neutrally from this day on. I I understand what they said about you there, that there was a conditional misunderstanding with the sheriff, with the previous coach. I don't like it either. Interesting. Plus he found out that I have a son was born, it meant that I, as Personality, I will grow as an individual. So he says: "Let's see." There was no more question. Yes, it is allocated there was a certain role. I think to her too let's move on. Yes, Yes, well, of course, you should voice it. Necessarily. Come on, wait, come on first let's go back to the role that You were at Dynamo first. That is you How did you even understand it? And to what extent this transition to adult basketball serious level, well, let's call it, well, already It's still a serious level. A, and I was wondering about Bazarevich back then, it turns out he's like playing there was a player-coach, that is, the whole system equally new. He carried this out transition from player to coach. And to what extent? It was actually, well, interesting. That is, eh, how does he even match our roles? the essence now, because I am now also from I'm moving the player to the coach, again, uh, I act as a player-coach. I'm interested in your position, how are you, how you were perceived, what role did you play? they gave and how difficult it was for you accept this whole situation. And Bazarevich, Sergei Valerianovich, and Evkevich. OK. From the very beginning Sergey Valerianovich, Certainly. I adore this man, but I know his weaknesses, as he knows mine. And mine my clear position is that a player-coach It can't be if we're talking about high level, for him it is Interesting. You play, you need make decisions, and think about them already team, all this at a moment of tension and and so on. He was interested, but Definitely, there should be specialization. That is, either you are a player or a coach. A I remember those famous moments when let's say we go out together against each other one, and I still don’t give him this one last pass, yeah, whatever you miss, and I run, naturally, in defense in defense, like a young man, and he runs past the bench and says: "Change it, change it." So it turns out that, well, I think that It's kind of bad. And in Dynamo it was still acceptable, because that I was young and as if, yes, I always wished you had a focus on glasses, to prove oneself somehow. And for the young mind This is probably the only thing that is clear a measure, uh, of one's own assessment, well, sort of of your efforts, these are points, maybe there assists, yes. So there was such a straight line stupid competition, you know, yeah, what I mean I speak? That is, to simply win against veterans. Here. Ah, so this is also this period, when Ivkovic comes here, probably Well, as I already said, my place is in Surgut the ego has been corrected. I understood that yes, there is something like that here glasses, and it seems like a leadership role, but you're all you're losing. You are not playing on a systemic scale basketball. They don't notice the nuances here, again. Yes, this is an even lower level. po-e like, well, understanding of basketball. Other aspects are satisfied, time gaming, blah-blah, but somehow it doesn't suit me I liked it. Returning Ivkovic, Naturally, I was already kind of ready for any role. The story is as follows. Doesn't matter ambitions awaken, the hunt is still there to show oneself through attack. And there was a period It's very strange for me when Ivkovic right in the face during training in front of the whole team he says: "From this You don't drive or throw the moment. My mind just exploded like playing basketball and what's behind it at all". I think it's so Serbian pedagogy that shows you border. And what a story it is It's interesting that when I took it, it still didn't matter initiative and drove-threw, and they harshly reprimanded me when I performed and really there all rough work without ownership with a sword, they didn't touch me. And it seems like it's logical that then we probably shouldn't to express oneself and simply, Yes, but it's also surprising that my nature definitely different. I'm still with I took it upon myself periodically this role, so to speak. And at some point and there, well, some things came together circumstances, injuries of leaders, yes, he He gave me this leadership role after all, he gave it to me lead him, let him throw him. And in the same I've already received enough in Plov season time, there are 20 plus minutes, the next a year even more. So here's the conclusion it suggests that this is some kind of a test of your true character, yours personal qualities. That is, they tell you: "Here is your standard, be content with it." AND If you accepted it, that's the test. that you don't really Personality, you don't like basketball, you you don't want to achieve anything. And taking taking something on yourself, receiving, but continuing this is to demand, this is by and large There is a character test, which means you are ready to higher goals. I think that for this I understood your idea. It just works out, huh. the question is interesting. Duda at the moment when He did it all, he still gives it conscious, well, like right now I will formulate it correctly. He realizes, that he is doing this check. Understood? That Yes, he gives you a signal not to drive, no throw it away, but inside he understands that it is yours personality, and if you show it, then you will grow up. If not, well, you private, that means ordinary, regular Human. Is he doing this consciously or is he purely within the limits of what he has, operates in the scheme. Then from the diagram people fall out. Well, for various reasons. Not came up. First. The second one, well, it's not in the game. it doesn't work. And thirdly, trauma. And he op Look, I have this one. ready-made special forces. Ready special forces. Let's try it. AND you once, once, once and you got hooked. Well, it’s difficult to assess the conscious there. or the unconscious part. It's simple maybe we know well anyway top coaches. There mm it's just big experience. He understands human nature, nature, as many people react there. IN Overall it seems like it was a deliberate decision act in my direction. Here. But not with a capital care about me. Vyzh will survive. Not will survive. Well, but that's probably how it is. survived, moved on, I stepped over the next step step. Well ah, listen, one of the interesting moments is I'm sitting here now, remembering when I played, when I played for Spartak for St. Petersburg, and then there was the horn combination is popular. And I am now too I'll explain to you the meaning of what, uh, I'm like I would have caught this idea. So then there was we just had a horn combination and we played with Kazan Unics in Kazan. AND Kazan Unics, uh, changed in three person. So, roughly speaking, you You play pickendrol in the fifth hundred in the fifth numbers, large opposite beret big, and Samolenko remains fourth number, and it turns out that you are against it center, which is impossible beat. And then it seemed like some kind of supermathematics. That is what we are like we arrived, uh, we came across this defense, They didn't know how to overcome it, and they were like: "Oh my god, [laughter] "Oh my God, what's going on?" So, I I'll draw a combination now. Means, horn combination. And here it turns out Our first number is with the sword. Here fourth, here is the fifth. What's the idea? So, accordingly, here is the third one, here is the second number. This was played, this is The year was 2000 or something, probably the sixth. The task was to target the center. The center sets a screen here, falls under the ring, and you have solution. Either you give it to the center, or you move the ball here, or, uh, or you move the ball, accordingly, to the second numbers. But, uh, what's the situation? This Everything works against flat defense. Flat - this is when the big one plays low here. But Unix then offered a change, and we did nothing. they couldn't do anything about it. That is, we, It turns out, it turned out, I turned out to be in situations, uh, here's the first number, against him, X4 defender, uh, X5 defender with his own, with the fifth, with the fifth attacker. AND here we get X, uh, one with number four. And we couldn't understand, how is it, how are we going to deal with this situation? Who do we need to attack? That is, these people They were hiding from the ball, and I was left behind. And the fifth one there was some American number, which it was impossible to beat. All of these were hiding. I was the only one who dribbled the ball like this, I think I won't play horns anymore. That There is and from there it came that Anton was playing one always in one. Yes, exactly the same to this day. I'm to what's so interesting is that basketball from well from here primitive, from the primitive I came to the fact that, conditionally speaking, uh, I really wanted this topic discuss when you have already arrived Kazan Unix and you had Trinkery head coach. And you used these horns, but they put the second number here, found weak links, found weak there are shifts in defense, and just basketball turned to something like this checkmate in a chess game. I didn't understand then could. Well, that is, in contrast to what It was, roughly speaking, in 2006. AND What year was it for Kazan Unics, I guess? there's 13 or something like that somewhere there, Yes, probably 13-14, well it doesn't matter. That yes, but he has changed a lot, modified, and people appeared, who say, "Wait, that's cool, they change, and we put it here such." And I remember that you told us then I beat Lokomotiv. You us beaten with one combination. We in general Nothing. You played the same horns, I think they put Eison and the second one there there was this, what's his name, mm, Gaudlock, right? And and did nothing. We played, we played this same shift, we played everything. And just there was only one person there instead of Pankrashov a person who can beat, and around the rest were throwers. And Basket is very heavily modified. Now tell me It's just interesting in the background all of this, what you know now, When you came, do you remember this situation? with Trinterius, as far as it was, well, not that a new level, but in general, what is a basketball, Well, completely different. That's not what I scored 30 points and won, that's not at all about this. Listen, I think first Need a little preview. A domestic coaching school, me It seems to have sagged a lot. Plus mentality. I'll try now explain. And there, well, there's a top coach somewhere there with us, while we cook our porridge. Well, you remember, yes, that period, there, roughly, the beginning of 2000, there was little foreign trainers. Well, it seems like there is one respected people who were in the past there famous athletes or something else, well, or just coaches, but in alignment Those who grew up in the USSR, conditionally speaking, yes. Means, mentality, which is conditionally like this this collectivism, it's like, you know, type overcoming at level m prove to everyone, well, that's exactly how, You know, like a warrior. And it turns out that such players were valued, for example, well, let's say you have one some kind of dominant or cunning one Maltsev's throw, yes, he takes it upon himself there's a crazy woman there hand, confidence seems to be higher skyscraper, okay, appeared. It turns out that individual players were strong. Then the foreigners come, those, let's call them that, who wanted greatly influence the game as generals. AND, Naturally, they laid out the basketball just fragments and defined roles, understand what patterns there are. I don't know, it's conditional ownership. space, and look for these mismatches, the devil is in the details, again, with what speed, at what angle. Well, you are this You already understand everything, it’s probably difficult, explain in language. And they started right here for us to give this theoretical basis, such, whose head was swollen. And you are in it sometimes even lost his individuality. You You say something like: "Well, here's the exchange with the fifth one. I'll prove it now." And indeed, although If you squeezed 20-30% out of them, you would showed, you feel great, and then unexpectedly you are given a role. But It's amazing that when you're in this role, and then something, well, like you grow up, something it starts to work out, you think that you become not just an individual developed, but also intellectual player because what fun precisely from some cunning blanks, yes, uh, to prove oneself, rather than this is eternal overcome by moral willpower, you understand, right? This is a state, Certainly. Well, that's why, if, uh, return to training, that's exactly it mathematician. Sometimes he just has no strength with from the point of view of these little details, because my head was swollen, yeah, so to speak I was attacked once because I stood 30 cm away, not where he was the head should have stood. It was like Well, there's a lot of pressure. And you understand that the devil is in the details. And so you start pay attention and you grow. So, yes, These horns used to play, they thought, well, probably somewhere around here some exchange, we'll help with something. Now correct timing, correct speed, correct approach at an angle. How are yours? the body works as if you were in focus you make a decision, conditionally, you see just, uh, movement, somehow protection the opponent will react, you should already make a decision and see these options either the fourth or the fifth. Understand, Yes? how we were trained in terms of shortroll. You should invest in it. with all my state, mind and body put your efforts into the transmission. That's why, well, it's just a certain development that These top coaches brought it. Well, I I would answer like this. Yes, good. I like. Very cool. We'll tell you now. Sergey said interesting term, it's called shortroll. And when is shortrol used? So, now I'll draw it for you. arrangement. Let's say here is the first one, fourth, second, third. And here the fifth number puts screen for the first number, respectively. So, shortroll is often used, when the number five, the defender, who, uh, defends the fifth striker, takes over as number one. That is him plays the spade. We even reached such a point level, that we will then also show you the video sequence we'll show you. And this transmission comes from first issue. Center, number five, he doesn't fall deep, but why is he short, short corner, it falls through here for a short situation. Two players remain at number one. The broadcast is in progress on the fifth number. And here already, By the way, Sergey is a higher mathematician. Here Number five has several solutions. He First, he gets the ball. Here here several solutions. I still remember this, uh, It also seems to me that I was in Onyx and we played with CSKA and on The role was played by Hines, he was given transmission. And here there was about one situation. They put the fourth number into the corner. Vitaly Valerievich Frizon stood. Vitaly Valerievich was standing right here, and Kurbanov stood here. They give a shortroll. Kurbanov makes a cut. Here, Accordingly, two defenders are standing. A Vitaly Valerievich makes a shift here. And you have two options. Or Hines gives away Kurbanov, and Kurbanov brings it down from above, or Vitaly Valerievich with a gun. Breakup protection, yes, protection break. Well, I then, It turns out we are two mm we are two games We played against CSKA, and we tried both times. spade, eh, we lost 2:0 in Moscow. Well, here we go. We arrive in Kazan. And we had it then The coach joked and said, "Like the third one." "Game, home, let's take over." I say: "Evgeny Yuryevich". I say: “Well, we don’t have there are no options, well, no options to step in, Let's go." And the first numbers were then Taodosich and Dokolo. I say, "Let's let Porokhovsky and Lataus change Williams are changing and we will choose the option, that we are closing at Dokalo." That is, when a mismatch is an advantage, eh, when the first one changes to the fifth one, let's say, and the advantage of the first number above the center, and you have to limit give him some option. You say, "Okay, how long do we give, uh, we don't give a three-pointer, we close the passage, we give an average mixing." Okay. Okay. He says, "Yes. "We want it there," I say, "We want a short roll." Well, we just take it out, well, it’s impossible. You know yourself when you're defending yourself. all the time, and you are always on top, or three from the corner, well, you hands, you want not if you want, they go down. And here we are We're playing our third match. Ah, they gave a clear indication of the center. Hanz and I They coped like guards. We had Vadik Panin and I are like guards. Overall dimensions, Yes, they are large. We, uh- we're kind of coped with large and essentially only the situation of the two was given away spectacle dokolo. He didn't score. We are we won the match 2:1 and in the third match there, I think we have four points or five lost. But the very idea that a a That's how you play this short roll, you you step in, and then Well and Tudis, It's clear, he's a basketball player, he's just about then to use these advantages. He always knew that if he plays there, let's say, on the third Claybourne's position and his hold low, Why invent? Yes, it's simple there school will please, yeah, we just attack there, then there opo-opo-op, somewhere somewhere there is a drawdown in another one there, let's say, is held by a Swede dokolo. Please, Let's play 10 pickendrols, and Let's see how Alexey is doing picendrol is protected. Well, Alexey can defend yourself on pickendrol, but it's not his strong point. That is, he is very clear attacks mismatches. What the hell are you in? age well I understood that well what is this so really basketball is use in this case is as if important aspect of the game then if you learned draw your advantages in the game, then This is a really strong set of your points. Well, there are a lot of thoughts here, actually. Let's start with something, probably bases that the attack has an advantage, that is, an act, and the defense reacts. React, Yes. The best coaches or teams want to influence this aspect, they want to come to a model act. That is, the defense must foresee, what the attack wants from understanding and from individual qualities and team qualities. So, well, it's conditional there come up with an antidote. Here. Ah-ah, again, the old generation of coaches was fixated on her philosophy. the one that once gave them success. Yes. And it lasted, it could have lasted there for 5-10 years. And sport, like everything else, the world does not stand still. Everything is developing quickly and dynamically. AND so today tomorrow may not be work on what gave you results this. And it turns out that again the top ones The coaches are fanatics. I saw how much You and I know how long Blat sat, eh, I was preparing there with Kimzura, yes, with assistant. So, this is Trinqueri. In general, it seems to me that I never left the hall, Yes. That is, they are interested in strategy anticipated and how are these options, if they are figurative express themselves, that is, they are pure chess players who calculate on the chess game, a clean chess game. And that's why me too, I also got into the clip of those coaches who simply followed their own line. And I saw how they destroyed us just because a person can't look at yourself flexibly and critically and to understand that this no longer works, you need to bring something new. Fine. No, well okay. Look, it's you he himself said that the person does not understand, but How can I convey this information to him? Well then There is, Well, I was lucky, I'm sorry that I interrupted. I was lucky. I'm not like that I've encountered a lot of slow-witted people coaches, and I always came across them. I can list there Blood, Ivkovic, and, Trinqueeri, Bartsokos, We'll let Vyoshevich through, Malkovich. A Pesic - that's a separate story. He is not never abandoned his philosophy. But it was precisely what he squeezed out of the team, leveled out what wasn't even there no blanks. Let's discuss it. This is so cool. We are now let's dive into the moment where, well, it turns out, You're in Dynamo faster than I am in Khimki. And we we're getting ready, well, we're getting ready for the game. I I see that you are putting pressure on everyone there road, and you have open Well, they're just backdoors. You give them you give backdoors for them and for them. So, that's about it it looked like this. That is, uh, Dynamo They didn't care about Dynamo. Team Task was: "We press for the entire 40 minutes." Yes, we are Yes, we are pressing all 40 minutes. Accordingly, it doesn’t matter here, Who takes the ball out? Uh, here, let's say, striker x2, striker x3 and Dynamo defender. That's how it is. No, not even that, not 3/4, but ottalova to from the end to the middle. Yes, we are preparing, watching videos, We analyze. I say: "What? Well, Why? Well, don't run behind him." Before Before the game, Seryoga and I were standing and chatting. He says: "We don't care, we have our own philosophy." Well, the coach said: "We That's how we see it." And we go out. I then I remember finishing the game. I had something mo, well 10 plus sosists. Freezone for me He just blinked his eyes like this and said: "Let's". Me: "Well, go ahead." He ran, I I threw it to him and he ran away. That is As far as philosophy goes, he was all equals. Well, I mean, uh, really Besic, uh, he was saying: "I want everything anyway, I do, I feel that way, I do I see it that way." And I don't know to what extent this is It's difficult in general. Well, I think, you know, like again, if to watch the game, that is, with one there are sides, uh, combinational basketball, yes, positional, that is the opposing team has prepared something for you several combinations bend their line, Naturally, they polished it, and she it works to the point of automatism, and from it they they squeeze something out. On the other hand, there's a part of the game where you just, uh, You play on instincts. you get under emotions, you run. T-tt. Now it turns out, What was Pesic pursuing? Well, this is mine. transcript. That's exactly what he wanted break this part down organizationally and opponents. Yes. Stop everything. And therefore play not 3/4, and for getting to the middle, he pursued. The main thing is that they don't played positional basketball. Direct them into instincts, directing them where there is a lot of chaos there Let's figure it out. And considering that you the legs were invigorated and the demands were very high, as if for the most part you're getting out of it. Here. But it was surprisingly somewhere half a year. Ah, well, I say, if we meet there those guys who were in that composition, Moni and so on, we are only about they said this. 6 months you found out yours Physics potential, how many sprints ended, every training session sprint, a huge amount there are physicists and so on. Here. And in the end The veterans couldn't stand the star players. a conflict arose at the management level leaders and Pesic, blah-blah-blah, and Pesic leaves, but leaves beautifully. It suits us in the end not as a person who gave up and says: "Okay, I lost, I'm leaving." And he We'll have one last thing to catch up with, as it were finished it off. I'm dating this charming guy grandfather after his career. Wait, how did you finish it? I finished off the sprints completely. Already basketball there was none. He showed that he was bending his line to the end and said: "Pesic, nevergi give up" and continued. And it turns out that I met this as a sweet grandfather after my career, I say: "What kind of trash was this already on the rights, like veteran? Uh, there he says: "Listen, Sergey, everything is simple. I believe in mine philosophy. This is my DNA." She was giving results. And do you understand that it was him a titled coach before and after Dynamo was also a titled coach, Let's continue at the super max level with Serbia and other teams. Here. And he He says that I usually arrange it for six months this is trash. And then, and against this background you lay some kind of foundation there and You give some leeway and people open up. It was philosophy. But we didn't get there second stage and therefore at the first level died. They died on the first level. And so how everything would break down, and Dynamo would be lackluster an indicator of his coaching activity. There was just a conflict, but a unique one. type from the point of view of this approach. A if we talk about, well, again about top trainers, well, we're repeating ourselves, then they are constantly blanks, constant blanks, but an individual approach analysis of rivals. With this spade. Now it's flat, now it's down. Ah, well that is. These are the kinds of things that exist. Well, let's talk about scouting. I wonder if scouting is the same an integral part. Even now, when I I work in in Media League, I even use it with point of view of progress, because You can see the scouting score and video help your players progress, because you often say there, conditionally there m Petya, you did the wrong thing. Well Yes, I did everything right. And here picture, you show and say: "Wait, stop, I want you to be here "Here." Because here is the transmission, here The defender is already in a difficult situation. Well, here 3x3 format, of course, but 5 nap is everything is much more complicated. And to what extent? at all I remember this when I worked with Pftis in Unix, did I get this from him? Moreover The best thing about scouting was that any video, any video of any character, individual training, it started from 40 minutes, that is 40 minutes and plus. Well, it used to be 2 hours, there was some kind of unsuccessful game there once, and He always looked, it really bothered me. surprised. That is, relatively speaking, we We're getting ready for Ike there. Ak with someone Greek championship and it stops, Well, how do you usually look there? Let's say there are 10 minutes of Aek Spider gameplay game and he always stops and corrects Aek. That is, he says: "There's a fool here, how could he run here? This is the same And then we sit, and we are generally at "What?" Well, I mean, what does the team have to do with it? UKS? we didn't understand this, but in his subconscious he doesn't seem to care the correction is brought in so that you, if you have this situation happened, you're already about More or less I understood where you were. AND I then think: "Oh, interesting, cool, I took it and now I'm really using it I'm reviewing and correcting many aspects. exactly the same way because I understand that you you can greatly influence aspects of the game." And regarding scouting, and firstly, a subjective assessment. players of their actions. You know how three I, what I think about myself, what I think with who is she really, in general? unknown to anyone. And a subjective assessment player. He thinks it was so, and she very excellent. And it is clear that when you visually you show it very well, and We ourselves were like that. Here. Well, we've talked about this many times, which is actually very critical narcissistic athletes are in general to criticism and correction. Here. But but only adult experienced athletes already somehow we come to this conclusion that we We're just working on the bugs. There are none here no personal attacks. This is the first one Part. That is, to show clearly Most people are visual anyway, I need confirmation and plus these are facts. This is it. The second one is about 40 minutes and more. The same Pesic mentioned, he told us gave the meeting the biggest record of 2 s by the hour. So now it really is, Well, that's the average there, Probably, I don't know, it's 20-30 minutes. But, for example, the same Trinkri, if he is not I wanted to cheer up the team with the help of the video, this is also sometimes a tool, and in general, a classic preparation for the game, then it was, I don’t know, 5-7 minutes. Where did this approach come from? Firstly, The youth is degrading. Now it’s not arrogant, but there is explanation, because the world is still digitalization of TikTok and so on, tunnel thinking clip. That's why the ability to retain information if I read some statistics somewhere before, no I know how true it is, but conditionally our parents, grandparents could focus and keep attention there for 20 minutes, our generation 10-15, then our children are already 5 years old or younger. AND Young players anyway - that's all is equal to the product of the system. And so now, if you give information over 20-30 minutes, man, well, it will just be in nowhere. And you will probably conduct a video, It's probably more of a coach himself. will satisfy me that I have done everything to ensure that to win. But the question is always about efficiency. And efficiency is that you just need to show several bullets, blocks. This maybe the emphasis, I don't know, on defense, on attack several. And some mental stuff there too you get some kind of psychological things to cheer up, to bring in focus. All. So about scouting, well yes, it is personalized for the opponent, shortened now with certain blocks, messages. Yes. Because I, for example, even myself understood that there, well, in different periods it’s different, but yet at the end it's like, "Dude, Give me three specific ones, please. "installing the game is enough for me." Yes. And everything else is in training. is being polished. And I, for example, would be different training, I would have touched on a different topic. And there is category of trainers who, I will not by name, but which how creative people are always looking for new ones combinations, some blanks that will take the opponent by surprise. And there are those, which by and large are a set of five combinations and they play them and you watch, well both seem to work, but long-term ones, those that have worked for five combinations of e in the ideal. What do you think? secret? Well, how will you make me happy? Like there is such a legend. Final Four won with one combination just in 10 performances and there is reading of the game. The devil in details. I always personally, if it’s mine the coach's handwriting in a past life, now I had a different job in my past life, I I paid more attention to this details. What difference does it make where the pickenrol is? it will play out, in what combination and so on further, if it is completed. Now the question: at what point to start play pick and roll? How is the center to you? came up and took your protector? How After you opened the pick-and-roll, passed, because I understood that something had happened, but the context has changed, and was it you Are you mentally ready? your bodyvision right away you are being revealed that you are just today You're cotton wool and you need to be changed, or you're super. You are over-stressed and need to relax. AND it's all readable, well, at least At least, I have these things there, as it were I notice, it seems so to me. Here comes the devil in detail. That's why it's necessary to polish it this is exactly the execution of something simple pick and roll, and now all of basketball is - these are pick-n-rolls, by and large, individually, well, it ends there ending, but that's your question mastery, skills, we'll see, How will today turn out? And that's all the rest of the trainers' focus is precisely on aspects of how to perform. Because if again I'd like to watch basketball, combination, there are some people running there, some speed, but they consist of rapper dots. How did you make kdor? Yes. How did you set up the barrier? How are yours? the body was correct, wide or simple formally? As another preliminary make a move and open up? And here from these kind of rapper dots add up actually a quality combination. What difference does it make which one to play? If later Look, it doesn't matter, okay, we found it sacrifice in the form of the fact that they have a fifth number with sore knees. Okay, that's it. primitive. It doesn't require much from you intellectual costs to find this the victim, yes, and hit him. Okay, but how? are you performing? Because even this one the passenger can hide you because You, for example, don't measure up now standards. He showed off a little. OK then. No, well, I understand perfectly well, oh what are you talking about? And what's the most important thing? The interesting thing is that it's actually the same for everyone levels. That is, Well, you just said something very important about that he said something very important, that, well, there is a combination, yes, but it's all it equally leads to you playing at peak, your strongest player is there there with the ball or do you have some a player who is the opposite, Well, to put it simply, the peak is further there, as you revealed how he fell, how others you replaced, what timing, spacing and so on further, there are many aspects, but basically Here they are, the rapper points. Why just flood the site, create an imitation vigorous activity when emphasis is needed do exactly this to develop quality here and there? It's a question of quality. And at all levels, but again, but at all levels and still We, and how would I say it correctly, on all At this level you need to pay attention to this. This is mo, well I believe in it. But there is players' potential, skill, and he is different. And sometimes it seems that some crazy trajectory of you brought out, and you are here undeservedly at the top. But the indicator of a high-level athlete - this is the longevity of his career. And a career longevity is nobody's business it won't do any harm and they won't take you if you won't exactly match level. Right? So you are the best at in its place, if we speak long-term. That's why we know these flashes when there were talented guys, They appeared for a year or two, then they disappeared. It seems like it it is necessary to put it there on the irony of fate, but in Overall, it seems to me that this is so important long-term career indicator. At your place there is quality, and therefore, naturally, on This quality, you can explain your theory. impose. I am now through the eyes of a coach I'm watching. This is very cool. And down? What if down? You will fall down. I am personally powerless. We play in the same you, in an amateur team, and we we know that we are facing some players who can't do this carry it out, no matter how you report it to them. Maybe, okay, maybe the questions are in me, there, I am not a sufficient teacher, and to convey your information is very important, but For some reason it still seems to me that after all, the players are not of the same level as They might just be stumped by what I'm saying. and I demand. Fine. And the question is, can you do them? teach? Well, we're talking about this now. using the example of an amateur league. Which the likelihood that you will teach? Well then there is a person there, well, he has, let's say, underestimated talent or just a head does not perceive information. Everything if you say there, Petya, we need you He pressed on the ball and did something there. He He blinked his eyes. The next day you come, same thing. You say: "Wait, Petya, I need you to put pressure on the ball." The team needs this because that Sergey Bykov, Anton Grashov, they already, Well, they can't keep pressure on the ball for 2 minutes. They can do something, they can do something, but they can't do something anymore. Something they can no longer do objectively. That's why Pet, this is him again for you. That is, how is it possible to teach, Yes? Is it possible to teach even at an amateur level? Well, that is to say that it is possible to train a young, talented person, who is adapted to this, it is obvious. Practice, practice, practice, yeah. and I were once for those coaches that we were controlled by exactly the same people stupid. 100%. Fact. How can one teach? Mm, there, like In the army they say, there is an order, a mandate, and showing. Well, like you can just stupidly give instructions. Do it, don't Reason, dude. You still don't You will understand. This combination is fast You don't even think about it. OK. This is for the stupid level. I have personally been subjected to such treatment examples. But there it is conditionally ideal for display, when We still went through this very thing there an important milestone and entered the professional sports, we were surrounded by top players. You I understood how they are this is a model for you to follow. You copied and this will help you. Here. And that's why here the question of assessing the player's level. If he doesn't get it, he doesn't get it, he simple instincts. When you are a player you are already definitely at a high level just like that, well, maybe there were rare examples when there are some thieves there, but overall you don't just like that, it means you can do it do. How can you do it? Considering that you were in for 10 years different formats with different philosophies and so on, that means you are consciously yours mind, your intelligence, your intellect can perceive information, process it and make the right decisions. Therefore, for experienced and skilled players through awareness. Yes. Unfortunately, instructions are for the stupid. AND you look when he is ready to move on the next intellectual or some level and give this information. I am this That's how I write. Now, I just imagined the locker rooms Our team is amateur. He's sitting, looks at this [laughter] in these three letters. Three minutes. This is me entering this [laughter] No, well on the other hand, we are quite Let's be objective with you, Anton. We say, we were at this level. Yes, of course there were. I understand too that we were and, and, first of all, and, volume information that is processed, colossal. The amount of information that processed, accepted, realized, transformed into a game. Again, I was, eh, I always remember, eh, I always remember 2007, when we were there, huh, with you young, and we have every training session It's just that many people don't understand, uh, we're someone we tell a story, there are two old ones They're talking nonsense there. So, everyone Every training session is a game for the 2007 national team. years where we were with Sergei, this is It was murder, it was the end. We went out to every training session as if This is the last fight. And we didn't care, it's the day before the game, an hour before the game, on they put everything. They tell us: “So, it’s a game training. We, yes, okay, let's go and "That's all." And we didn't care. Well, basically, yes. And it doesn’t matter in what condition were you in? Plus you The veterans were strangling me, like, young man, what are you doing? are you jumping and galloping here? And then many they break even in simple, everyday life as if stories. Well, yes, we are conditionally more stress-resistant. Here are a few more thoughts. As if the first, This is the reading that I used yesterday. in the Lyubian team and told in locker room. And the second system, well, it that pretty much explains, uh, what it is - This means observation. The person is watching, the player in this case. Ah, oh - that's it grade. Yes. - decision and then action. If look, this model works, well, everywhere and fixated. That is, you are forever you look, you evaluate, you accept internal decisions and actions. Fine. And the question is, but exactly how is it that she everyone works, but it is impossible after without the first letter, observation. And what such an observation? This is concentration. Let's move on to the reading that I did yesterday, uh He told the team there. That's exactly it here is my pedagogical wakes up. Hunting is sometimes something hand over. Although these eyes, which are just empty, they often disarm you. But nevertheless, I say: "Listen, Well, you're trying, you are trying, an eternal attempt at something." Well, guys, in order to take action, we need to act, uh, emotion is needed. To evoke emotion in you, you need to meaning. You have to understand, well, sort of something. And the first one is exactly, again, This is the observation and focus. AND it turns out that what you focus on is This may give meaning. You can explain that this is interesting, this is significant. After that it will cause you emotion. You emotion will make you move, act, because there is no other way. You can go further there to be smart and expand this line and series. Okay, now if you take action You always repeat things well, you have skills and abilities grow, and skills in, well, disciplined execution in every day, you just for 10,000 hours, It's trivial, there's a term for it, they make you master. It seems like the whole route is clear, but without focus nothing is possible, because that it is the most basic. And when the young no concentration, this is their problem, which is not allows them to reach another level. To sum it up, to sum it up. This is very interesting. That is, in fact, if you spend in There are 10 hours in the hall, yes, there are 100 hours, 10,000 a thousand hours, a million hours, it doesn't matter, we They threw a huge one there with you number of times, and you do it, uh, unconsciously, without understanding, without any idea at all focus, then it's just you, that's all you did it, you can you can reach a certain level, but without there will be no quality, without quality and focus, that is all you just have to do it consciously, focused. That's what I mean, everything is through awareness and at the same time hours repetitions. This is actually very It's difficult because I also think about this very much I often say, and I'm sure you do I met a huge number of talents. I I call them talent for a minute. Like A guy comes and says: "I started "train." Like he really is training. And trains throughout there I usually call it a month, it's a month actively trains, very actively for a month trains, is focused, has focus, everything. But after a month this focus is lost. The person thinks: "Oh well, screw it, "It's complete nonsense already." And you try this last 10 years, 15 years. This, well, this is it. mega-complex. That is, keeping the focus, observing the discipline of everything recovery, but at the same time doing we'll finish the job. It's, well, well, sort of mega-progress. And you are a very lucky person if early stage, uh, of your development to you I met a real teacher and a trader, which can correct. After all the problem is often that I really have hard-working guys I've come across it very often, and it seems to have everything: anthropometry, some kind of, well, love for work, diligence, Everything is there, but something is missing. And you then you look, well, everyone has their own it's like a story, but nevertheless it is works in familiar patterns, because what if you look, this is a load on brain. to break your pattern, this is it means you have to give up something and come to something new. It's always scary, it's unknown. And everyone works like this there, conditionally, I got the ball, I go to the right on the moral left. I have a trainer He said: "What are you scared of? Go and try it this." Or there in defense, yes, break him This. Wait, there's basketball there. It's a beautiful game and there are a lot of nuances. There is. First of all, you are definitely stronger, if you have both right and left passage. You are definitely stronger if you have there is a long throw, a medium throw and a throw from under rings. It turns out how easy it is to work only where you feel comfortable. And how It's hard to say, for example, that, but here, For example, Anton has developed a lot, here you are, Yes, throughout my entire career, but my right hand is still the same didn't pull up under the left one. And this too, Well, well, you see, yes, that's an example. I also have a left hand. on the contrary, I was always lagging behind, because that I never worked on dribbling. Nobody told me this when I was a child. I I came, I only came on moral and volitional grounds I made the right pass. And good, again, some Golaev, Ivkovich, Bazarevich, which were shown to you, yes, and they sent you to training camps and gave you individual trainers who are exactly worked on weak areas. And we we know very well that you are so strong, How strong is your weakest? place. This is if we are talking about the top level because it takes you away strong side right passage, what are you will you continue to do this? And, naturally, For many players it seems like this a banal, obvious thing: break approach that you are comfortable with, go into the zone is uncomfortable, like something is happening there now It didn't sound pop, but that's the secret success. You were absolutely right about what you said. right hand. Ah, well, how would I I can say about myself, -uh, let's say here is my throw that I am I worked there a huge number of hours, and I I was lucky to meet Elshad there. Milyaev, who, uh, Well, I came at all, that is, when I I was in Onyx, he actually came to see me train. I trained separately from in free time, that is, I trained with the team and separately I worked additionally on my throw, adjusted the extension. a-a, conscious preparatory exercises, the desire to progress me, uh, yeah, when executing a three-point shot. AND How proud I can say that I, well, in this aspect directly, well, progressed. That is, from when I had my first break when I Mesina invited me to CSKA and tried to explain what needs to be left there my hand, something else, I was twitching there, you know, there and until the moment that is now, where this is an automated movement, uh where I feel the removal and most importantly I feel the body and know how it adjusts, let's say, I'm there I'm releasing some kind of game I'm a failure, I feel like I'm not the same, not the same dynamics, not the same op, there is You're adjusting your exercises now, thankfully. You go online and there are billions of them. Well, Arsenal, yes, there are exercises there, Yes, when you and I started, what was there? It was like they were drawing there, damn, I love it exercise. Do you remember when they tell you: "It's simple, throwing practice." You like: "Well, okay, so it's catchy training, what, what do I need? "And They tell you: "Yes, there are just two dots threw from this point, ran to this one, threw from this point, ran to this one. 10 here, 10 here, 10 here, 50 there, 40%, and at their own pace." And most Evaluate the coaches, they don't correct you from what is happening on the site, and precisely because of my mood. Today I had a fight with my wife and my salary was reduced. AND So you see what it is now, well, that There are no precise evaluation criteria, right? A then this exercise tells you, there usn the same Trinqueri. Here is a pause, stand like this, and now the game throw at full speed. You go out at full speed, and you balance lost. you swear at the stove and so on. Here. And you are like this, this is quality, well This is real in everyday life, not like this you understand, right? Here. Well, no, they are they. banalities, like you're there this hour worked and says, or Yes, you say: "Yes, great, he's gone." And by In fact, you haven't made any progress. And when They tell you exactly, and you and I know, when they tell you: "There's a pause here and four quick steps, and now more quick stop. I'm new here. I analyzed Anthony Edwards' game, and I'm shocked. That is, uh, from movement bodies, the angles that it occupies, uh, shoulders, how he attacks, uh, legs and how he then from legs like these, when he's low, he takes literally two or three steps there, enters the zone and all this translates into vertical and, well, you know, there it is impossible to defend oneself. Well, I'll do that. first of all, a footnote like this: Well, specifically for the Russian market, yes, because if you don't have this so, this is not an example for price increases, There are other approaches. It's possible there too. more cunning. By the way, it's a cool topic, I don't I know how interesting she is here, but Do you remember the dialogue with Blat when he for the first time I said that you are European and we are European players for him, that means, more technical than the Americans. At first I thought maybe it was again some kind of mental, as if mental games. He loved it study. Here. But then with Hanson too talked and so on, and all in unison. Well now, of course, the answer is obvious. Again, it’s banal and simple. Emphasis on athleticism. It's clear why. If you are an athlete, you focus on this. And we, not having such a level, so to speak, athleticism, of course, you're already coming up with it something else. to to somehow improve the result there pull up, yes, not here, but from under the arm and so on. But nevertheless, I mean, that we are carried everywhere, we rather reason with you in order to basically, if listen to our podcast later, and people realized that there are a lot of small aspects, and you must always be in analysis, because there is a level when kids basketball, you're just having a blast, emotions, passion, something like that, I don’t know, team stuff, you're interested, here, blah blah, but when you get to the high level, you constantly require exactly that smart solution if it's like this now in simple terms, yes, and without analysis no get by. And the devil is in the details. We will have the headline five times already devil. The devil is in the details. Yes, listen, actually, but you started talking about potential in details, Yes? I don't want to talk about it now. potential. You started talking about ours the younger generation, and I notice that with from the point of view of bodies it is strong is progressing. When we were playing together, We had, well, objectively unique individuals, yes, there is Andrey Kirilenko, Sergey Monya, there Vitya Khryapa, well, in terms of anthropometry, anthropometry and plus, which could be there and then hammer it somewhere else from above and so on further. Now I look at the young people ours, uh, I had a chance to meet them to work. And some for some I observe, for example, Demin, which is in the NBA, where, in principle, I see, what is a body, there is already some skillset, but at the same time he has physical data. They're not on that yet. level, like Edwards' conditional, yes, there or there Mdje Winscarter. Well that's it objectively unique talents. They just, well, one is born into the world, which he did once and he flew away. Yes, I later learned how to play basketball, and it seems like it's, well, some some impossible. Now let's say pork appears, which plays parmy. That is, the body is there, it is there data, there is everything. Well, it doesn't matter anyway you see, yes, there are more of them than It was before. Previously, there weren't any at all. was. I wonder how much you are Are you keeping an eye on our young talents? and do you see a strong difference and that they don't even keep up with it time, but there in trend, for example? Good question. I don't know how definitively answer. I feel like I have something like this the same conclusion suggests itself, but this is again, You know, I'm a wrinkled old man when I come home. to the games, I sit down there, so to speak, on the parquet, I look at these monsters and think that really like what data, what motor skills are developed. Here and Coordination seems to be better and stronger and so on further. Well, okay. I don't know how There's a selection process going on in Russia. To me It seems not to be at a high level. Well, there Someone dropped by, we're working with what's there There is some material. But there are guys, then it doesn't matter if they get into system, they are really given more these are the correct exercises. I remind you of your approaches before 2000 seventh years when your understanding of physical the preparation consisted of, well, at most some kind of sprint to do. Well, that's it, and go to the gym some basic muscle groups, just take some crazy weights there sits, chest, this is a classic. And how you Blood with Francesco Cutza Cutsalini, yes, They kicked me out of the gym and said that now now, when there is a tournament, you don't You can drive yourself under the weight and you should do special physical exercises on coordination, a little bit on strength, on there's a lot of variety there, I don't know, eh, I don't know, How to say correctly, actions of levers and there's something else there, yes, and you understand, that they are already with me in these standards, so they really are Here are the points of view, buddy, they are good We are prepared and have the equipment too. Well, but I don't know if this is real senile, as it were, dementia, or It's actually a correct assessment, but for me It seems because we didn't have there's still more of all of this individuality. Yes. More than any desire to prove oneself character. Everything is fine with ours there. there were generations. That seems to be all here. Clear, everything is beautiful, but somehow people dissolve mainly, uh, in some important moments of the game. You see, oh What am I saying? Here you go. That is, for me it seems like it's somewhere around here loss. Plus Certainly. Maybe we were lucky, maybe not. Well, let's say, let me tell you about myself I'll tell you. That is, our generation has come, we like there with Monya, with Khryapa, with Lyokha Zazulin, ours The team finished fourth there. Well, there stupidly lost the semi-final to the Spaniards, that's why we didn't gather at, ah, for third place, well, sort of fourth, but still pretty good there They performed well. Our generation is like once it came and burst into professional basketball, when did they come big money, star coaches, and there They gave us some roles like this. IN basically it was not exactly not not leadership qualities, yes, there you go so it turns out that we have a very a strong base and connections for us, our generation constantly gives compliments in interviews and so on, that's how this particular one worked national team. Well, in my, in my long There was nothing like this in my coaching career. It is precisely by dedication on this foundation, when we were given the right to play in the national team there must have been someone there anyway play both in attack and they gave us, well, and we they really opened up there. Good luck, that we took Europe, and this gave us both there would be names, and we could already do more for ourselves there already gnawing out in the clubs. This is ours, so to speak. generation. That it just sort of happened that way Right? that they just arrived top coaches and we, uh, kind of showed. Here. And what happens now? It's like the youth comes and content with what they are given, uh, How do you say it, angle? That's good, there is projects there Nizhny Novgorod Emba, when anyway, the strategy has been adopted there, Russians players, they still open up. You you can see directly through game practice that people there seem to accept already direct participation in the game. Direct participation in the game, yes. Well, uh, there's a lot to discuss here. Not I know. On the other hand, I never I'm chasing the youth. I like them, they are different. Hunting, of course, is all there is to it. I would like to elevate myself against their background, but in general This generation is very cool. First of all, how are we, uh? players who are still you, well, like born in the USSR, this collectivism, unconditional authority, trainer to you said: "I understand, I accepted, I went." Now Young people criticize her for this, and I On the contrary, I admire it. Well, that is to say, Firstly, the default authority is not authority. You have to prove it to me, Why are you an authority and really reasoned. And this is very cool story. Well, you understand, right? That is age and regalia are not suitable, they do not give you have the right as if immediately to me tell how to live. And this is very Cool. I like. Not everyone is ready now. some information still thinks, how So? What is he carrying? You can't do this. Sergey, [laughter] you're talking about forbidden things. But in fact, that's how it is, because, well, you have to deserve it, of course, in some way actions, some kind of, I don’t know, there, relationships. What is this? What if you like: "Yes, I'm the smartest, I'm the king." You can cover yourself at the entrance to the relationships, [laughter] but long-term You'll be found out if you're a real amateur. and you don't know anything there. Therefore I must correspond. Yes, sure. So it's like, yeah, well. Okay, this is the European champion. Okay, let's go. Let's look at the cases. Listen, I really I really want to discuss this. the mental component of the game, because because we are already adults, smart and we such an interesting mental game. We're kind of smart. We're kind of smart. And I now, uh, you had this experience, and you now anyway, whether you want it or not, but You're a coach, uh, a team lover, but where, Let's say, not only amateurs. I am now I train a lot, uh, I communicate with my players. And just recently we had dialogue, uh, on the topic of conversation in general with players. Uh, I mean, uh, I told them I told there, well, how things were with me There are a couple of legendary timeouts already in in your performance, they also take place be. And he also discussed this topic there. He says we think people just don't ready to perceive information in this way. You There you yell at them, but now there is peace Internet, you just yelled and immediately you already a meme and became associated with it. Yes, Yes, yes. And I began to associate myself with it. Then there - once there he yelled again and that's it like: "Yes, he's insane." Well, well, yes, He is insane. And I came to the conclusion that In general, dialogue is very important because you yelled. Well, there was some reason there, and the consequences of why this happened moment. Well, it needs to be corrected. Yelled without insults, Yes? Yelled without Well and I don't always it turns out. Well then you admit pedagogical mistake. I You can present, but not insult child. I fully acknowledge and realize this, I apologize and correct myself, but how In my defense, I would say that this is for I'm new a new part and the complexity of my whole process. That when I play the game like Coach, I can handle these situations. control, and they don't always manage to control, even the greatest. Hey, we know our history, where the swear word and other stuff goes. It flies directly at the players and flies conditionally into the most star players. They are flying in there on business. Hey, I'm in this situation too. becoming because, well, I play and Then you understand, yes, my pulse is at its limit and and at the moment the moment in the game happens, which I read, I understand that this is key factor. I'm taking a time out and I All of this needs to be redone and done like this. Sergey and say: "Guys, wait, are you You know, we're playing at this peak. "isn't that quite correct?" Well, it's clear that this is impossible. And here I am in a couple in in a couple of moments it's all sort of there fired. I don't know if we'll insert it. whether mimasiki are here or not, but the very fact that, that after all this, and I am always with I'll talk to a person, discuss the situation, I'll explain to him why this happened. First of all, uh, if I'm wrong, I I admit that I am wrong. If I have offended, This can't be done, of course, it's not about that conversation, but the fact of the conversation itself, because what when with you, when we are with you we played, well, we understand perfectly well, there was no conversation there, they said: "Sergey, first of all, you you, if you something I did it wrong, you got covered with a three-story with a swear word, they sat you down on the bench, and you the next day no one explained: "Sergey, do you know, you I got a little carried away there at that moment a little bit, I told you some You really cover such a broad topic. simply touched upon." It is not possible dig and dig and can't figure it out. A, and so, first of all, about what you said, Well, in general it's mental, yes, as far as it goes Is it important to pay attention? I'm interested psychology in general. Absolutely interesting. And I probably have half of the books there, on these topics, but I am also in it at the same time I don't believe it. in some example this is more understandable. So, here we go, I work for a company where there is social project, basketball school, We come to the regions and select there talented children, final camp, well, we're trying to give them a break there further trajectory there to help. So, you come and say: “Well, there the boy went into the passage, which means there he got buried somehow, they covered him, he was like that I'm all upset, and you're the one saying that with the coach's boy?" He says: "Listen, psychology is insecure." You like, "Okay, good." You take it for experiment and you choose it. We're taking it away, We work with other approaches. Newр scream. We are trying to unlock its potential. New approach to coaching. We believe in you. We We just give you specific actions. When you come here, you need to take this basketball stand. You need do take these steps. Parallel you say: "Pay attention to physics, coordination, flexibility and there conditionally some kind of banal advice and series. A block shot is nothing, it's part of the game. Get two, get three, don't be afraid, go Go there, you'll get experience there. That's what it means The boy is gaining weight right before our eyes over time camps. We arrive via the next one next year. The boy walks, passes by, he gets it out so skillfully, scores with coordination. About the same situation. I go up to the coach and say: "In what is the reason?" He says: "Listen, psychology, and he somehow got stronger and became outraged in this regard. What I mean is that psychology it is often such a manipulation, yes, with such a tool to justify everything, and everything equally convenient." And by and large we We're talking about basketball, where you need to be, Well, there it’s conditionally skillful, but physically prepared. And often the mentality, first of all, well, there everyone has a different puberty, there are children, Yes, different ones are somehow formed there, trivial family problems can affect him strongly influence or, on the contrary, you are in You grow up in the right family and this is for you can support, and you kind of, well, like you would also blossom in basketball, You see, it's hard to dig into it. And that's all, what you can do is just, by and large account, give as specific basketball specific basketball, I don't know, experience, you know, yes, exactly develop in this. Here. On the other hand On the other hand, well, psychology still exists. We understand perfectly well whether it's you or me today today and tomorrow are different you can. Physics is unlikely to be relevant here. uh, it got worse in one game, in one day. And it’s unlikely that you’ve lost your skills, right? technology and something is wrong. And that's why it turns out that we really have a very good a lot sits in my head. And probably we programmable, that is, we can be programmed various things. And you still don't care you see, yes, when you are with your team. So, here I applied, and, conditionally a kind word, and he opened up. You apply for the next game, you probably think, a kind word helps him. And it went in descending order. And for you, as for coaches, it is an eternally creative process. You don't know the answer, it's impossible. digitize. Do you understand what I'm talking about? I'm just an example to me. I really want one for myself present an example just using a specific example. Means, uh, last summer I did a joint camp in Irkutsk with Vanya Strebkov. He says, "Eh, Well, I mean, we want to make a camp in Irkutsk." I say: "Well, I'm ready, I this is interesting. There is like a huge base, I'm ready to work there, let's go." Ah, it turns out to be super popular. There, huh, I think we have 14 training days, 44 children. Mega cool, mega cool. We, uh, work, we work, we work, we work. And that's all It's time for our base camp, well, sort of Vanya and I sort of determined that always, every last day of the cycle we we're playing. Because what you are working on is We need to try to perform it on the site. OK. OK. Okay, we're doing the first one. day. And we always share. That is, in one the situation there is Strebkov, the coach, Pankrashov trainer. Cool. We are recruiting players, We'll play two games and watch them there. potential. We looked at who did what. Again we work, work, work. We say: "Guys, what you do, we Let's try to see how much it is in the game It's effective. Ta-ta." In short, last day we So they split up. Strebok and I We train one team together. Two two They are also training an assistant in another one. We, So, we draft guys, they come Parents watch, uh, first quarter, uh, Judges, everything, everything is as it should be. First a quarter, uh, mine either believed in themselves, or something, they run, they can’t play. We are losing there, like 20 or 246, Well, let's say 246. I tell Strebkova: "No Come on, I'll tell you everything now." So, It's the end of the fourth, they sit down, I tell them I say: "Are you [ __ ] nuts? Are you [ __ ] nuts? It's baking, isn't it? After all they look at me, they look at me with such eyes." I say: "I'm a [ __ ] mouth I've been here with you for two weeks." And I really No, I have four workouts a day. It was, can you imagine the state? That Yes, I came and just fell, I say: "I'm here four training sessions a day with I'm tearing my ass with you. What are you doing?" They The gray ones look at me with such eyes. AND I have never seen anything like this before life. They include the 140% mode, destroy, win the game, lose 18, wins the game by six points. The finale It's like the World Cup, you know? That is, they run like this. This is this sincere emotion, understand? Joyful. That they are not there because they are me satisfied, they satisfied themselves by showing that they can. Morality. The moral is further. Morality is even stronger. Second game. the same result. We are losing 20 there 28 and they are exactly the same ready. I say, "Wait, what are you doing, [ __ ], are you [ __ ] nuts? Yeah, [ __ ], what do you want? views? You are [ __ ]." And you know what happened further? They lost 40, well, or 30. Here so we gave up and and and and and and just and finished. We gathered them all into the camp. I told them everything there. Moral of the story, yes, that is it. doesn't work. This works with some, but in another situation it may not work. And in the third situation in general people will say: "You're insane, take it away him." You have to adapt to situation. Every child is different, but the very fact that I, well, it's my like I'm still growing as a coach. Well This is my example. That is what I am Think: "You sg Yes, u This works, I'm a genius. It works, then it doesn't work." But the most important thing is, uh, your height can be uh will lead to a lot of psychologically wounded victims. And you too you care about children, so be be careful about this. I would also be cool I raised the topic about how much we have there were coaches, all with different philosophies and more, well, there, since we had top coaches, they are somewhere in some parts, at some point in time gave results. You're like, "So What is the secret of one, the other?" And the most interesting, if you, for example, are alone you tell the coach: "Are you inclined to freedom?" He's like, "No, no way, I have everything here. systematically." And you say to the other: "You press hard, press the command with your "as if there were these in this system." He says: "No, what are you talking about? I have How much niche do I give them for potential for individual demonstrations of mastery." The trick is that the coach always thinks he is in in the middle. Between what values? Between chaos because the game is chaos. Yes. And between the system, because there is team. there is a team, and there must be rules, and you still have to build a system, some regulators and so on. AND it turns out that in the individual, it's in chaos when you give freedom actions, there are such trainers here the best ones usually come out ahead, which manifest themselves, they develop in this one, because they have the right to make mistakes, create blah-blah-blah, but at some point this one gets lost systematicity. That means you fall out of team play and vice versa, if you the system clamped down, then you tremble, your hands, well, we remember, yes, these are like would be states. You say: "Well, give it to me, give me a little bit of this niche creativity, where I can create. Well, that you blame me for one mistake, do you understand? But every coach, I think, he is in the golden mean. Here control between the chaos of the game and systematicity among, well, there, the team, lining up among the players. This is very cool topic. And it turns out that you really are This is roughly where you are. Admit it, we want to. You're in charge, you Napoleon. Well then, let's do it now as if we in free format. You have power. You you say: "Listen, well, these soldiers we need to give them precise rules installations and easy to manage them." And with on the other hand, you understand, behind each this player is a person who wants to show himself somehow, wants to somehow take the initiative. And go and find it this balance. And this is for everyone, well, there the philosophy is built exactly like this individual, but it's definitely from yours life experience. If you look, for example, Sergei Valerianovich gave Bazarevich gave a lot of freedom to the players. Why? Because he was such a player too. It's his nature. He You definitely can copy a coach over a period of time time. Well, you understand, right? For example, I I take it as a reference point in my time, there took some connections somewhere, some trinqueri somewhere, well, there should be some guidelines, but you You won't last long in the long term. You I must get to know myself, what is your experience and what is your nature, and There's no escaping it. So, yes, I do. he wasn't talented, he didn't go through the system selection. Naturally, I seem to be I gnawed at a lot of things along the way. And, naturally, I can't see any negligence in the players. A on the other hand, in creative individuals there is a lot of negligence. They create, they They create, they have a lightness of being. They They say: "Why are you holding me back here? I need 5 days in total to get together, as it were, and find this thing of yours there, well, you know, yes, creative, like I would, uh, I don't know, nature. Here. AND creative state, creative state, yes. I'm not today I'm not in the mood, don't touch me, do not disturb. And this is, in fact, very cool story. That's why management, well, the coaches are there for a reason They call management - it's eternal control. And if you are intellectually developed and trying to develop, for you these are intellectual puzzles and searches optimal best solution. And and it it is not a static state, it is eternal changes. This is probably how it would be the conclusion I wanted to make. No, well that's too much. I'm generally people now They're probably watching [laughter] think they are carrying. But you're kind of you you see, you break it down to the molecules, before all this. What is Sergei Bykov like as a coach? Hm, What kind of coach is Sergei Bykov? Well, you see, It's hard for me right now think specifically because I already I haven't been a coach for a long time, like, 7 years, uh manager in a company work in corporation is large. But nevertheless I the last 5 years, by the way, here is Ivkovic, and then Blood, I got the first private ones They said: "You have the prerequisites to be coach?" I'm like, "Well, authorities some said: "Maybe it really is Is there something in me? " Started in parallel quarries there for the last 5 years, about 5 years There I started to study everything about coaching Interesting. I went on an internship, blah-blah. Then I prepared myself, naturally, All. you take some guidelines, those the same Ivkovic, the same Blat and others, and you start to feel like you agree with something, What you disagree with, what is yours and what is not yours. This is, well, again, eternal, as it were. brain activity, so to speak. Here. And I already, well, so through interviews or not interviews, through podcasts anyway said that it is far from natural run away. And I, uh, don't have much talent. So, my advantage is not that big This is some crazy entrobiometrics. You also know about my clumsy throw. Ah, well there I can of course do it myself justify that the problem is in the legs when the legs were more or less healthy and the throw there was, and the percentage was higher, then something happened not so. Just with your shoulders there, uh It's unlikely that you'll get there. Here. AND that's when you don't get all of this, well, You don't have it very developed there, then you must to understand the depth of the game. Just remember our confrontation with Andrey, our beloved Gennadievich Kirilenko. This absolute talent, genius. Feels the game there on some of them even he himself doesn't understands. I think it's more on the unconscious. But he didn't bother, he didn't do that. analysis, which we went into the tranche after defeats and there they kind of twisted it, I'm watching games over and over again, like: "A Maybe we should still have this situation? Andrey didn't think like that. Ah, and here it is the player, naturally, has perception peace, and here I am, who is there, yes, there tyn-tyn-tyn, like here and there, I'll come later Even here without a ball I'll do this, suddenly they notice. And it's good that many The coaches noticed this. And that's why I, For example, as a coach, I'm more like this more about nuances, accents. I guess so, about, uh, cleanliness, uh, hard work. Here. But this is at the very beginning. And now I I immediately understand that in every person there is the most, what is beautiful is creation, creative part. And take away from the players this opportunity, well, it's just like wrong. That's why I'm also looking for this the golden mean. This is my basic focus. You still have to work it off. some moments, yes, basically it is protection, because protection, well, that's all anyway, yes, there are a lot of nuances, but in In general, this work is so hard, no matter how hard serious. And then on the attack take responsibility. Here are some approximate ones for you landmarks. Take responsibility, Express yourself. And you and I are on a team we're playing. You see what kind of throw it is. no questions at all. Throw it away, make a decision, blah-blah. Will you come to me, I'm a liberal trainer. Will you come to I'll try to advise you as I would entered this one. But I definitely have I developed a style and I don’t impose it. I'm interested in a person who just I looked at one option and saw another. experience and made the decision himself, because Only in this can he grow. That's why hidden, it seems like from the outside that I tough, and the hidden story, but to me for some reason it seems that this one is more real e-style and approach to players. No need to be cute, but indirectly for 10 in minutes you can see what's really going on In fact, it's about caring about you. You yourself you develop, you make your own decisions, and only with this approach do you have There is a chance to grow. And what does it have to do with us? we are no longer in the big basketball race, but we just, well, like we communicate with each other people who have different destinies. You I just want him to even through the game How personalities personalities grow. If, For example, not my my player a-a suddenly it will start in the locker rooms open up, joke, talk, maybe even aggression will manifest itself in timeout, in the game itself, I get it's absolutely a pleasure because I I see that he is growing as a person. Well that is, something like this. It's not funny because I'm okay with it. I just encountered it at this very moment. AND it turns out before the start of the media league, and then I say, I'm interested in it being height not only, okay, you added like basketball player, but you've grown as a person. And when you see the fruits of your labor, I can proudly say that personality, precisely personality progressed and did everything so that we reached the final four. It's not just my merit is, as it were, everyone's merit. But the point is that when you see this growth, this is very cool. Well, that is to say and it appears in different aspects. We're not even talking just about the throw. That's where I stopped drinking, that's where I observe this is it, this is it, I looked at it, I I find this interesting. There's another one he says, and I'm like, four times a I've been going to the gym for a week and I see transformation of the person who is there I have a doctor, that's all unique story. He is on my team. Doctor, just doctor. And I say there: "Ish, can you?" He says, well, there Previously played at the national team level. Me: "Well, "Okay, played, played." I say, "Well, can you practice?" He starts training. Well, something Maybe. I say, "Well, okay." Well, he is. so plump, you know, so, well, bun. A person loses 36 kilograms in a month and a half. kg, and it ends up in my rotation. And I told him I say: "I don't need you as a doctor anymore, I see you, well, as a player." And then he's at the game, at the last game breaks his arm, breaks two bones in the hand, with a broken comes out by hand. scores crucial points. On the next one this day his hand is like this. He says: "I I'll get injected and I'll play in the final four." Sick. Well, well, that is, you understand, yes, the level In fact, I wrote to him today, I say, Well, well, how would you give an example, well, of how you are developing. Well, here we are with you I think we played a lot of games. At all As for pain, that's a separate matter, I guess, uh. A separate podcast can be recorded. Pain - this is, well, well, a pain. Oops, my knee hurts. hurts. I can't play there today. lenostop. Well, we don't have such options. was, Yes. Well, nobody knows what's right. Nobody, no, no, I'm the only one telling exclusively, that I lived. Well, Yes, yes, it's clear that there are young people there. conditionally even in the NBA, they taught them, they all equally live in this, how to say it, in monetary system. They are tough, well, sort of a strong asset, no matter what, there for yourself, for the team, for the NBA league. Well, they have that's the approach, right? That is there Why do we need a plus on moral and volitional factors now? the price of one of them, and the game is not that high, since childhood we were told that even there's just one missing moment, yeah, where pave, yes, that's why. But on the other hand we are sitting here again, conditionally, well, I don’t know for what reasons, maybe it was just nature that helped be more or less stress-resistant. Or the coaches influenced us, or a lot basketball. But how much with this approach? actually broke down, when you are a child and only one person demands you I have to endure all of this there, overcome, go against the wall, beat yourself up, like well, for many children this is a big deal test, so I don't know which is better. Well, it's not a fact that we can find it here. this is a solution because again there are examples, which, as you said, where you are you overcome it, you get over it, you become stronger there, something else, and There are examples where people really break down. But you probably just can't do that. There is no way to control this and you can't say: "Okay, do it like this, this is Right. Now it's all over the place nearby on the internet. Do this and you too you'll be a super athlete." No way, you're not you will be a super athlete. or don't do it and there's something else there 100%. Well, there are a lot of examples. Well, how is it? I need to find my own path, my own perception, understanding, the most important thing understanding yourself, understanding yourself, where you are you are what you need, well what are you doing you want from yourself. In principle, I have the same I feel like many young people, well loss of focus. That is, they don’t understand, oh well my basketball is cool. Well, yes, for what purpose? What's the idea? How can he not need a big basketball? enjoys the process. This too there is such a thing, it's actually, well, a conditionally healthy society, it should understand different models that exist and people's perception. What I mean is, you know, Here again with the growth drive, what is it? In general, the preparation of a reserve force for the Dyusha and the DyuShR. That's basically it preparation of reserves for national a team that should be on the world stage e to show the strength and reputation of the country. This as if rigid millstone. I don't know how to say it correctly. Well, a vice, yes. But how much is that? 1% those who are engaged, and what about the others then? we don't notice this race. That's why there must still be some other environment to be formed, there must be opportunities engage in activities at an amateur level. This simply health care for many parents because they, well, you know, just like a sport. And it is impossible this large chunk of those engaged in uh children, people just don't notice, because that we focus only on preparation reserve. Well, wait, this is the most important thing. we wanted to say that it was simple game. That is, we always forget, we we're making some lofty plans, but we forget that it's just a game. Originally, basketball was just a game, so that people can play and get pleasure. And I, well, I was lucky, I've been there many times parts of our planet. And well and well People play this game everywhere. Just They come and play for fun from the start. Yes, someone has the prerequisites for it there in order to develop, but in fact it is it's just a game. And we are very strong about it. we forget. Well, actually, very much so. interesting example, that, uh, I'm with this I encountered when I, mm, when I My son started playing football and he says: "I want football." Well, there was a small one. He also says: "I want football." And I then I saw it all when, uh, people, ah-ah, parents, they are, therefore, of age We've been raising a professional for 5-6 years now football player and they said, well, there were all sorts of parents who thought very much, that they understand football. They he said: "This one won't play, this one won't will play, and this superstar is aged 5 years." Well, for some reason it seemed to them, that they understand this topic. A, and There is no point in him playing football there. he will never play. There is no point play basketball. This is the ambition of the parents. Yes, it is an ambition. But that's not the case. You don't You can determine this initially at the base level. you can't determine at what level it will be to play football or not. Well, even if you look at the statistics, youth team and U-18, U20, well, in short, 18 alone, and in 20 There, the composition changes by 80%. Made. National team. This means that you You don't understand at all, well, who when will. I'm there, you remember, yes, I'm there 15 years appeared on the basketball map without some school. Here on the other hand, there are examples when it really is Since childhood we have seen this talent, He was brought in and fired. So many trajectory that cannot be read. But The parents' ambitions are actually very It pisses me off because I'm on theirs too I saw all of their levels at all levels. Here. Well, okay, it seems to me that stupidity and dullness are separate I don't think it's the characters taken topic forvaya. No, well, what I mean is that it’s interesting that It's an interesting statistic that at 18 you have one composition, at 20 you have another, and in fact, it can be in big basketball only one person will get in, and maybe even no one can get there. And it's like, well process. Well, I don't have to do anything. To me It seems that here, you know, I really It's really a shame that, uh, I already discussed this topic raised several times. I'm interested your opinion. So, uh, huge like huge huge number of interviews where everyone specialists who work there basketball, they say: "The problem is in children's sports schools." Well, like, the problem is children's basketball sports schools. I I say: "Well, okay, fine, let's say so." A as a problem in children's sports schools influence the fact that you have a young one there player, yes, there, who is 15-16 years old years when he finishes school, It's not clear what to do next. That is those who didn't get into, so to speak, VTB command system, there in the command system Super League, what should they do? Well, someone He's playing college basketball there, right? Examples of who is from the student basketball, from college basketball I got into the professional one, he is low. Well, that is, a large number of children, who play basketball. quantity, I don't agree. The problem is that we have there is a transitional age where there is a huge the number of children of all that they have there is nowhere to go, nowhere to develop, They're like, "Okay, here we go. somewhere out there." They remain, perhaps, in basketball. And because of this, amateur level, it is still saturated. Well, objectively, to the Moscow level amateur leagues he is serious. Moreover, what I knew there 10 years ago St. Petersburg the school was stronger than the Moscow one amateur. Now, well, that's it. And that's all People only play here because of the level is growing. But I have the following thought. Basic story. We are losing in selection, this is is also an important aspect. Volleyball now takes it faster, they comb through the children. Naturally, for us it is direct competitor. So further, no matter what they say, well, how I would not be able to give a systematic analysis, Are there enough schools or not? Well, there is, but the question is probably the quality of work. All anyway, it all comes down to the coaches. I'm not here I want to do the same now, like, there, well, there It's a big statement to make, but it seems as if less and less. A there are still coaches who really vocation. You know, yes, this story there is such a thing classification, gradation. people who fall into some sphere. And what's there? what's happening? Why? Because it is there three types, in my opinion, like priests, warriors and traders. And then, the percentage of traders on at the children's level has become higher. And this is also like would have an effect. Now on to the next one level. Those who get into training reserves and they have some kind of guidelines there, Okay, they have something for youth there. then the VTB League, we got in there, we didn't get in basis. Okay, but we're talking about this again. This is less than 1%. What to do with others? And that's why maybe now it's not It's popular to say these days, but I really like the model uh in the States. Why? Because there is no early choice and you don't put the child in position, you will be a player or a scientist husband. Either study or play. Yes. And if we know what percentage 12 There will be fighters only in the national team and how many It's just, well, the children end up in nowhere. And with considering that they have ambitious parents they got it into their heads that they have everything it will work out and they led there, and, naturally, there were gaps in education, which means they kind of like it sounds sad that They basically have a path there security guards, I don't know, taxi drivers and so on, you you know, without an education, with broken bones ambitions and so on. So when you you find yourself at a university where they created conditions, you can study for 5 years and get a specialty, and at the same time get quality, a, quality the training process is like this a strong and developed student league, and I think it's healthier, so to speak. story. And it turns out that you are just like that answering your question that you are smaller You will lose your children globally. We We're not even talking about the sport now. U they will have the correct fork, understand? Yes. They are learning and play and play. That's why these commands now, well, although I can already allow, Super League, Major League, this What? What is it for? There, there, just like We're watching in the States, school NCA, NBA, Draliga. Well, Gliga, yes. there, conditionally, Have fun, maybe come back again come back, there were rare examples. Well, Okay, how would it be commercial? the product is additional, in fact, for them, huh, and for us the Super League is like that further. And if those funds, if we look budgets of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation Federation, someone pays the Super League 200 million. Who from this super league got into e- in national team? We we do not forget, What such a superficial explanation the existence of a super league team is like the pros who might get in later in VTB and, naturally, be a candidate for national team. Theoretically. Theoretically, there are few such examples. So Why such misuse? powerful means when you can just strengthen college basketball, where to create a championship that will more competitive? Well, you see, there are a lot of consequences, and coaching staff and the athletic core, but exactly as if These are university halls, so that they would be better. But This is definitely, I think, the best model. But again, these are such abstractions, that's all. I'm not ready here at the level of a state make a decision, but for some reason I It seems that this is where the problem lies. Well, for me First of all, I would like to say a little bit even my own example, because here we are We're talking to you about choosing an athlete or Job. And now I'm exactly at ninth I was in high school in my class. And in the ninth The class had a choice: either I stay I study at the gymnasium, I am engaged in education, and basketball is such a thing, Well, it's more of a fan story. Again Well, at the school level, you and I know. Well, What is that ball there? there's some kind of game there, it's not clear what it is. Well, well, this is no longer unprofessional. story. Or go and enroll in a sports school boarding school, to study there, accordingly, focus on the training process and development. Plus it was cool back then all of this, what the boarding school had your own team, a team of masters, which played there in the first league, and and, accordingly, you could develop in in your environment, and plus you've already been connected to the men. This is logical. And you, accordingly, op, there is talent there, and It kind of depends on you now. And here I am made his choice. Well, there in childhood I I was just lucky. Russian roulette, Yes. Well, it's roulette in fact, yes. I am not and I am not I argue. To the fact that you are very correct He said I liked this, well, model. States, in general, in terms of basketball such. Uh, there's more. and other sports, Yes. And there, first of all, it’s tough competition, that is everyone wants to touch this gold dream of getting into the NFL there, in, I don't know, in the NHL, in the NBA, due to the fact that there get into some serious college there or first show yourself at school, there, like, play and they'll see you, you there he showed himself in all this, and you there's a chance, well, we know a lot about it examples, where there are 200 million more then some kind of cosmic numbers. Interesting, but us in general, I see that the guys they are leaving. And even an interesting example, an example of how we crossed paths, Timofey Rudovsky, yes, it turns out he is, played in the amateur league. No, first I was in the States, everyone was saying that He's a hot prospect, uh, with Brony James. Ta-da-da-da-da-da. I end up in Nizhny with him. That is him he gets exactly that portion in the lower one review on, let's say, the basic one and well, it doesn't work. Well no objectively it doesn't work because, well, difficult. Firstly, different mentalities. That if you're in America, they tell you: "Yes, Basketball is a game of have fun. Like, play, move. He comes and says: "Wait, basketball is not fun. Basketball is - This is pampampam. Yes, it is hard work. twice a day, Yes, you do this and this in the morning, this is it. It's not that you're like that, well, he is. there came, you know, another one like that emotions. So what? Yes. He says to him: "Stop-stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Basketball is different." Then he, eh, he had problems there health, he gets there gets into team, it is manifested there now leaves for the States again, realizing that here, well, there's no chance. And and promising, damn, what are we doing with him? intersected. He, well, he is talented. boy. Talented by data, by movements, according to the reading of the game. Or well, you felt it, that he, well, like maybe he has it predisposition, but which he did not may manifest here. She, she, well, no only, in short, not only because of the fact that, What is this system like? He himself isn't ready yet. to this. That is, he was not ready for requirements that are here. And those the demands that are there, they are to him are suitable. On the one hand, yes, I just go to Tima My dad and I are friends, as for Tim, well, I have a good attitude towards you too. Well, obviously, there are weak points there. I see. Well, I wouldn't want to talk about them now. to speak, but also a test, of course, go straight to Zoran. This is also The best element of the strength test in all of Russian basketball, as it were, Well, that's a real test It was serious. Ah, but he really is more like this, as if individually developed player. He, he has thinking this is exactly what he wants to create, create, be creative, you know, and, It probably doesn't fit like this if basic. But on the other hand, get to to some other coach, maybe everything was revealed at the level of speculation. Here. So here I am just, you know, like I'm watching and wishing for him to manifest himself there wherever he can. Talent, of course, good. Yes. No, well, what I mean is that it’s interesting. I think we need to move on to this. to our other talent, Demin. Which one? To Anton Pankashov. Eh, well, about in what role? In any. In the role of an interviewer. Let's. No, wait, stop. Ah, well I like it and the story in general, Firstly, we have heard about Demin saying that, eh, highly chosen, successful debut. Uh, me I also analyzed his game. Oh, you know, there I sat right down, I was interested. I think, Why not try? Well, let's see. game. It's like I'm just scoutanalyst, watch the game, see how it moves. E Well, have you even observed his talent? Have you crossed paths with him? Ah, yes, I did. Actually, Egor, Ah, I was studying at the Trinta sports school. And few people know, but I have a son, I he took me there to Trinta. Here. And they are together were on the same team. And Yegor has been distinguished by exactly this since childhood courage, but desire, and, therefore, make some interesting decisions in game. This immediately made him stand out. He first so small and puny, then, Well, at that level it's hard at first too determine, yes? You can just guy with good motor skills, good is in possession of the ball. What will happen next, I don't know. knows, but, well, there always played a leadership role and always made such interesting decisions. Here then, it means, from my focus he seems to be disappears. And now I hear there that he practically where he is in Real. IN real here, and then it is drafted. And that's why I, you know, so ah I can't do it completely analyze. I'm more like just, You know, I chose a role for myself and I'm watching, I'm sick. Firstly, for a compatriot. Secondly, we have only one Almater, well, Moscow school Trinta. Well, of course, We don't know Dima, my son. I'm just rooting for him. Indeed, everything the factors you listed are now they fit together just perfectly. It's clear, because the road is still long and there is a lot trials, but you, well, really, you just have to give him compliments now it's already there and already uh, like, yes, There is some kind of advance, but it seems like would take it, yes, well, that's what I mean your own. And that's why you just get sick and just you want him to somehow gain a foothold and But definitely he will probably be one of the leaders of the Russian national team are there for the nearest, I don't know, decades. But again, if injuries will pass you by, Not? Well, first of all, it’s pride in that, that we haven't had people for a long time, who play in the NBA, and now We see them, we worry about them. A, it's clear that it's worth playing poorly there, everyone immediately remembers to mention you and says: "Yes, everything is clear, Yes, he's in focus, yes, "Yes, yes, yes, it's all clear." Then good luck, yes, we believe, yes, we do we believe. Well, well, it’s like this, Well, our mood doesn't fluctuate that much, We've been through this before, so we are sick and we know that, well, it’s difficult way, but everything should definitely be fine. Yes, and therefore no, well, firstly, the best Peace League, ah, really, you have one there is a possibility that the most important thing is test in general, how is it Some never have this opportunity. Well, you and I are lucky, that's all. It's a separate story, actually. To me I really want to discuss it. If we We started talking about the best league in the world, do you have one? there were several attempts, uh, to check myself. I only had one on World Championship. These are games, of course. for the national team against teams from America. And in general, aa, oh, Let's do it this way. For you personally, uh, it was the peak of expectations from basketball in general, that you can with the people you I saw it on TV, and you have it here too there is a real chance of them, Yes? Okay, I'll answer that question, and You will answer me before that. Do you remember in details of your first sex? Ah, well, go ahead and answer, then I'll tell you. I will answer. [laughter] What I mean is that It's difficult to describe your emotions inside. WITH on the one hand, you've already got to that level, like, well, a member of the Russian national team, as if with some name. you should do this keep this status there, yes, how as confident as an athlete. On the other hand on the other hand, you were also zombified by this, uh, with these uh NBA broadcasts and games and you will be able to do it on some cosmic level and you can't appreciate that there is something there the coefficient of the shooting is just like that, which, well, you know, really bothers you divides. It seems to you that it is there, Gods, and you with your mentality there a simple guy from Novodvinsk you think: "Well, something here is just somehow absolute surrealism, like I'm right here next to "Cobby Bryant". Adds a few more points, so to speak. to this Syura. Who's there? The fact that Blood is before the game He comes up to me with a serious expression and says: "Sergey, you're going out today and "You'll take Briana." And I'm kind of like that too. I understand that I should just say like, well, a confident athlete who there, well, with normal self-esteem say: "Yes, coach, that's fine, but I I say so." Uh, and I blurt out smile because it's, well, some kind of nonsense, how would I be like: "Okay, "coach," he also starts laughing and then That's all about it. That's why aa and on the one hand there is absolute interest was to desire test yourself for strength, on the other hand some kind of stiffness, because you think: "Well, where am I, where are they? Here. Eh, but and the game puts everything in its place. You you understand that you are weaker, but not as much as this picture Television made that difference. Here. In 2008, and this is like Retim, as they call it, Yes? So, that means, that means, uh Well, that was a cool experience. I'm saying that it's simple I was blown away by their level of athleticism, yeah, like would be, and this confidence in general every action, but still noticed a lot of things that I later learned in my career it helped. Okay, I was there before. bird rights, because he is a young player Blat gave a little something in the national team picked at it. Here. But it was an interesting experience. IN 2010 we were together. Do you remember? I still haven't had a good season there, oh, this championship was formed in different ways reasons. And there's a CSKA contract and an attack. Gomelsky on me is exactly what is there played poorly. And this is internal the tension just sort of came out right here this game with with the US team. But again, we know this state. There is a lot to tell fables about me being there He performed well and scored a lot of points. and sell this story to the young generation and so on. But by and large we sometimes know that a couple of successful ones the game plays completely differently folds. That's why I gave up at first several three-ruble notes. This somehow gave me confidence. And overall he played well. Even though Holden was no longer in composition, was just a substitute Anton Pankroshov. That's why it's like gave effort and somehow played there. But it seems to me that we were already there then mentally prepared for this team, played Fine. And just the same again The mental game also played in the opposite direction. We don't want to make any big statements now. talk, but we would have played much better It would be better if they believed until the end and it didn't happen this is this mentality. Well, I get it, like a second violin. We could then much better to play. Do you remember a couple there? mistakes and everything went somewhere. In general, it is necessary to give credit where credit is due, I still get it Well, not that there are a lot of them reviews, and people tell me: "Oh, I have A game like Russia Russia popped up there America in 2010". Yes. I say: "Damn, you were leading the whole game there." It seems like we lost by 10 points in the end. E and It was a level playing field there. And those who You haven't watched this match yet, have you? take a look. And there are two whistles in the wrong direction, hit it, there are a couple of open throws and it's clutch game. Yes. Well, I mean, uh, you said it right, that we didn't fully believe that we we can do it and it's a big problem. That is, we left with the cargo the fact that the best are against us now players in the world. There's Kevin Durant, there Russell Usburg, there What he Sbilps, that what are you doing for us? Ouch-ouch-ouch-ouch. But in fact, Well, yes, the guys play aggressively, phenomenal athletes. Well, there's a dispute here. No, we are phenomenal athletes, but we, Well, let's not talk about the absence athleticism, well, minimized athleticism on desire, on some kind of charisma, in their topic was opposed, well, by the best There were few people on the team at that time there was no one around. I wonder, listen, Well, you told me about Kob. I like it would Did anything surprise you? Well, let's say it's clear that Kobe was there, Wait, LeBron, what, well, besides, besides, that they fly out like this, I remember some movements, grinding or something, I I don't know, there was something you did during the warm-up I saw that you were just like, "Oh, no way. to themselves, that's what they do. Interesting. I'll see, I'll think, I'll try." Listen, I think it's the same for everyone. levels. Well, how to describe Kobe and at the expense of Why did he stand out? At that time he he clearly understood that he was the best player in the world. It's transmitted like you, for example, you enter in your league on the court. I see it It's hard to describe in words, but you see it here This is a status. This man knows that he is here, as it were, now one of the main and will solve the issues. Also Kobe, It seems like LeBron is here to the left and right Uyt and other players, yes, but he's like The alpha male is unambiguous. AND and when he I entered the game, you know, uh, well no, no That's probably how to describe the style. All equally for me Uyt there seems to be more a versatile player. LeBron is bigger some kind of basic set like I would have my own skills, and he would have them uses, but it is at such a level that even everything else is leveled out. Spear, It seems to me that somehow I still feel like myself I did as I developed myself. She has a huge one arsenal in general, like basketball elements that it can perform Famous mom mentality. He really paid attention to it. AND It's clear that he's downright obsessed with the game. This is their concept of legy, yes, There is. Here. And he was obsessed with being exactly that. the best player and leave him altogether maximum trace in history. Even me It seems like LeBron James has a smaller one, there is more ease of washing of being in him. AND, Of course, it's captivating. That is, in the very game, well, it's clear, how would you like him keep it level here near the parquet It's normal because we have strong ones. lateral ones like these, yeah, but dude can swing you right, left, jump back there as if from the deviation there is, I don’t know, a meter from the ground. Hey, why are you bothering him here? The question is probably just your struggle, to make it difficult for him to throw and how spoil life. That's the most you can do. as much as you can. Again, you can't ask the question I understand, but overall it sounds, you know, How is your opposition to Scob? No, we We still remember you. We, uh, team, we had team tactics, How squeeze, squeeze for three seconds, yeah, don't give them space in general, yeah, that is, we risked a three-ruble note, but not allowed them to see the corridors in passage, because it is a sentence absolute. So it's more of a team effort here. confrontation against Kob, but personally here I had this experience. That is, I was even interested, I’m trying I can't remember our scoping. remember scouting at the World Championship. That is, well, it’s clear what you’re giving An open corridor is everything. And even now I am a I recently recorded an interview with Samson Ruzhintsev, well, I started looking through it his games. In its context, I understand that if you give him an open corridor, then He already has the talent to complete this. at the highest level. Well, we're talking about what can get through from above practically anyone who is there. A I was just driving at the level of BA recently for andre rd in Abu Dhabi and watched warm-up. Well, that is to say, there is such a feeling, that they are thrown out on a trampoline. That is him he just runs and then he's like They threw it on the trampoline. He's like this flew out. and stuffed it there. And you understand that in in the context of the game, if you don't build tactics correctly if you you will give, and we know that Americans are courageous, that is, they are they they score several times, a couple of times they intercept and that's it, and then impossible. Okay, physical mental If you give him space, it's a death sentence. So by and large, what we are on the sword had to fit tightly, and the important the task was like the other four people are in effect. ala to create this bottle. Well, if anyone understands, here it is, uh, Yes. Oh, to say it’s not just like that, Yes, Yes, yes. Say yes, it’s not easy to say So. Here, here is Sergey Bykov. A Who's first there? Oh no, you wait, You came out from the second one, right? On the first Either Holden or Pete came out first Samolenko. What year? Well, the eighth. Ah, the eighth. Eighth. Well, yes, JR. J, Yes. Fine. Here it turns out that JR is there working on defense and we are putting pressure on the ball while the player is bringing it out. Do you remember it? there was a tactic, he says, two or three times The person needs to change direction. That is, he said: "Let the first number change direction two or three times, you You'll steal 4-5 seconds. This is what we need, what we want." And then if we we're talking about a bottle, and that is, here, Let's say they are located there, well, it doesn't matter how, five, there are four and two. And the task of every defender pack as much as possible here, as much as possible and give up those three-point shots. Yes. And why was this exactly the tactic? against the national team? But a a ala, yes, individual skill, they are stronger. You have to take away his space, Well, that is, put pressure on the ball. And the most The important thing is that this bottle shouldn't be fake. Fake is what I mean, that you're standing on a three-room apartment and just you show it back and forth. He then will see a corridor. We must do exactly that the moment when you stand there, then he shouldn't see the corridors, but this is also an antidote against them, mentality that cannot understand, why should i just give it away intermediate pass to the neighbor who free. Why would I, if I want, for what reason, yes, and he first searches, Naturally, he digs in and gives the pass no, well, it's less effective, that's why It seems like we have an advantage here. This is the tactic that was developed. Yes. Fine. Eh, I really like it, Sergey, I have one last question for you. Means, It's not even a question, it's a blitz. You need so, you need it Okay, I like it. You need to name, uh, the top five. players of the Russian national team, in your opinion opinion. Hm. Fine. Well, head coach, here you go, head coach. the coach here is obviously David Blood. Yes, David Blood. Oh, and I have to choose exactly from the Pleiades, with whom I played. No, you can choose any one you want. No, it is from From the Pleiades. Fine. From the Pleiades, with whom did you play? Fine. From Pyady. Because this old one take the guard, that's it, we need to get rid of it write off. All, Fine. Let's take from the one you played with, Let's go. Mm. first number. Well, I'll probably put it here anyway. Holden's jar. Well, it's all the same to him stood out in many respects. And in those I a rare moment when he is in the national team he came, but he was still the leader unambiguous in this position. Second, the second position is definitely Lyokha Shved. Well, it’s like here in front of him We bow down to talent. Still created things are crazy. And we'll take the third number, Monya. Although he is like as if on the fourth, but purely a hole let's shut him up with the third one. Well, Captain Russia Let's remove all these pompous slogans to the side. We just love Gray for his, a, sincerity, devotion to basketball. Ra is one. The second is precisely for the character. And I don’t know, What is he like in life? We're kind of with the gray one there We communicate a little, but on the court we We remember well that the more difficult the situation, the more pleasant it is for the gray one to play on and take responsibility in these moments. Well, it's clear that there is no such thing as a snort get by. For me, he's probably in This is a basketball account in the composition the highest. Here. It turns out that We offended the centers because Kiri will take the last position with me. Here. But if the sixth, seventh player is It's also important that they are in rotation with Blat, because everyone else is jar-makers. Let's take Anton Pankroshov for that period when he, ah, I was on bird rights in 2007, but he didn't stop and, uh, waited for his moment and kept himself in good shape and I made it to the final and didn't panic and did it turned the game around. And we'll take Lyokha in fifth place. Sovrasenko, I wish he would just sit now. at my dacha in Krasnodar, if will watch this video, that he too it will be nice because for him it is very important. Fine. Ah, friends, unfortunately or to Fortunately, I don't know, maybe you're already tired from our old conversations, we come to the end. Ah, I would like to know separately say that every comment, like and everything else is exceptional supports our release because, well, It was cool. Sergey, thank you very much for that you came in. I hope, I hope, not the last one once. So, until we meet again BPNGASHo and the First and Red channel. That's why, If you haven't subscribed yet, do so. Thank you, Anto. Thank you. [music] Yeah.